The Originals Spin Off

Please, the Originals made the show. Only 5 people watch for the lame triangle. Kol/Klaus/Elijah>>>>>Damon/Elena/Stefan.

 

 

 

Yep. Watching Kol sit in a chair, chewing gum a whole damn episode would be more interesting than the two Salvatore brothers pining away over their "beloved" lamp post.

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@Gayatri, I just meant among other factors. That would be a weak reason if that is to happen. The wanting more from life just has to add up to other reasons.

 

 

 

 

Yes. I agree. Writer's Digest made that reference to characterization. They assumed most people would understand that other factors must be included to propel the story along...

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I think both options sound great, @Zoe. but speaking of manipulation, a lot of viewers have been saying the past month that he likely knows about the fakeup and is just playing along with it to his advantage. I would actually pat the writers on the back if that's true, because it would make sense to his character.

 

 

 

Yes. Same here. If the writers went that direction, I would actually be surprised. It would be a good move in the writing.

 

 

 

 

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I don't think it will,coz Caroline is a fleshed out character with a sense of whats right and wrong,whereas Elena is a cardboard cut out moron whose only concern in life is the Salvatore triangle

 

 

LOL So true.

 

 

 

You know, i've always thought that Caroline kind of handled all the torture n the crap thats happend to her past year very calmly.There has to be a breaking point.she just takes and takes and takes everything and shoves it down,what happens when she finally snaps and loses it.That will be a very good opportunity for her to say FU to the MF gang and go off on her own to explore her darker self.

 

 

 

 

THIS. If an event like this occurs, it creates justification. The writers have to demonstrate that Caroline is almost ready to fall off the precipice of morality, because she is "pushed" to that particular limit. The question is...what will be the catalyst to create this type of SL?

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Well if they let Caroline do the whole dark exploration it will be Elena all over again, it kind of doesn't fly well. But they can just make Caroline accept Klaus for who he is and what he's done than for her to try to change him or vice versa.

 

 

 

The writing must have consistency. Caroline (the one who lived by a specific moral code) would never truly accept Klaus unless the writers show a change in her "moral" position. This most of the time does not happen in writing without a reason. It must have implied justification for happening. Plec has done a terrible job with that one so far.

 

 

 

Again...the suggestions I made does not change Klaus; it creates the ideal that he could become a better villain through effective manipulation. There's a difference.

 

 

 

Also, if the writers allowed Caroline to accept Klaus without justification, she will look like a total flake and completely OOC.

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In layman's terms for those who do not understand my point: There are 2 ways they can write Klaroline. I just gave both. Either the writers change the characterization of Caroline or the writers keep her the same and delve deeper into the manipulation of a true villain.

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But I want Caroline to accept all sides of him not just the charming side. If he can't be real with her then it's not worth it.

 

With this...the writers would need to change the characterization of Caroline a little without making her look like a total flake. This is indicative of the "ideal" that they can allow something..eg. an event in her life could alter her perspective on crossing the line between what is morally considered right and what is morally considered wrong. A good writer would know how to do this.

 

 

The example I gave above works if the writers want to keep Caroline the same. According to Writer's Digest, some characters can remain the same but develop different goals and objectives in life. This is a possibility as well.

 

 

Though I think despite the cuteness, Klaus will always be Klaus and he will always ship himself. I don't for a moment believe when push come to shove Klaus would be willing to lose everything for Caroline. He will still hold hostages and arm twist people to do his bidding.

 

 

 

 

The example I gave above has NOTHING to do with changing Klaus. It is about the effectiveness of the writing. A good villain can manipulate without showing his hand all the time.

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The lake scene with Klaus allowed me to see the potential a true writer could bring to his character. He was cute in that scene. The problem is the writing. I personally feel the best approach would be the "Charmed" approach. Remember how they wrote Cole and Phoebe?

 

 

 

 

Let Klaus be cute with Caroline like in the lake scene, but the writers should keep her in the dark about his actions. A true villain, a crafty VILLAIN can manipulate situations where people are sometimes not aware of his motive. 

 

 

 

 

They should let Caroline become aware of only one thing about Klaus...His "cute" personality. The truth is the "Charmed" method has been used many times in classical literature and it is quite effective. The main argument people have with Klaroline is the fact that Caroline knows what Klaus has done. Of course, nobody could ever accuse Plec and her minions of having the ability to write a great villain.

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New Joss Whedon Video!!!!

 

Lol why would he talk about that omg

 

 

 

An interesting parody highlighting some of Romney's B.S. promises. Voted yesterday! Did my part...

 

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Klaroline or Forwood?

You hate Fify Shades? I already think of you as my BFF :D I don't know why Steph hasn't sued E.L.James already. I think she'd totally have a right to do that...

 

 

Yes! I read approximately one page from The Guide to All Grammatical Nightmares and that was enough to make me want to set fire to my favorite, red pen. Of course, one of my friends actually read the first book and filled me in on all the sucky parts I am missing. It's sad that on one site many writers are questioning whether or not they should study their craft anymore since the public obviously missed lessons in the "parts of speech" in grade school.

 

But one person gave me a good laugh. She directed me to this awesome post on amazon. Loved it! Here it is:

 

 

 

I really don't like writing bad reviews. I admire people who have the courage to put pen to paper and expose themselves to the whole world, especially those writing erotica. Having just finished this book, however, I feel compelled to write a review.   About half way through the book, I looked up the author to see if she was a teenager. I really did because the characters are out of a 16 year old's fantasy. The main male character is a billionaire (not a millionaire but a billionaire) who speaks fluent French, is basically a concert level pianist, is a fully trained pilot, is athletic, drop dead gorgeous, tall, built perfectly with an enormous penis, and the best lover on the planet. In addition, he's not only self made but is using his money to combat world hunger. Oh yeah, and all of this at the ripe old age of 26! And on top of that, he's never working. Every second is spent having sex or texting and emailing the female character. His billions seem to have just come about by magic. It seriously feels like 2 teenage girls got together and decided to create their "dream man" and came up with Christian Grey.   Then come the sex scenes. The first one is tolerable but as she goes on, they become so unbelievable that it becomes more laughable than erotic. She orgasms at the drop of a hat. He says her name and she orgasms. He simply touches her and she orgasms. It seems that she's climaxing on every page.   Then there's the writing. If you take out the parts where the female character is blushing or chewing her lips, the book will be down to about 50 pages. Almost on every single page, there is a whole section devoted to her blushing, chewing her lips or wondering "Jeez" about something or another. Then there's the use of "shades of". He's "fifty shades of @#$%% up," "she turned 7 shades of crimson," "he's ten shades of x,y, and z." Seriously? The writing is just not up to par, the characters are unbelievable, and the sex verges on the comical. I don't know what happens in the remaining books and I do not intend to read them to find out. But given the maturity level of the first book, I imagine that they get married, have 2 perfect children, cure world hunger, and live happily ever after while riding into the sunset, as the female character climaxes on her horse causing her to chew her bottom lip and blush fifty shades of crimson. Jeez!

 

 

 

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