Independence? Forum Posts

1. Why so much backlash from some of you about Blairs baby?

   ya well redemption has to start from somewhere doesn't it and when a character is trying to be redeemed that generally means that people start forgiving them. 

   That's a pathetic argument to make. You're ignoring my point entirely. People are already fawning over Chuck again. There needs to be more than one episode (15 minutes of one no less) before Chuck is deserving of any forgiveness.

    

   Blair acted completely out of character with the way she was unwilling to give up Chuck. I want Blair to be the one to stand up for herself and say that SHE needs to let go. Giving all the power to Chuck makes Blair look like she'll always be his little lap dop willing to go on and slurp up whatever leftovers Chuck has to give her. 

   Blair isn't strong in this episode. I hated this episode because it took Chuck to give her her freedom and her "Strength". It should have been self-motivated. 

    

   Posted 5/17/2011 3:03:54 PM #

2. Why so much backlash from some of you about Blairs baby?

   What makes you think a child will automatically be a cause of maturity OP? Some of(NAY! most of) the stupidest people on the planet are morons that have no place being parents. Chuck and Blair(mostly Chuck) have no place becoming parents, and I doubt a child will keep them anything but stagnant. Chuck shouldn't be around children PERIOD, now imagine letting him have one of his own that he has agency over.

   ^WORD. I couldn't agree more. I'm surprised by how gullible the audience is. Suddenly they're so forgiving of Chuck because he gives one quasi-sentimental speech after four years of hell.  Him saving her was laughable. He didn't save anything. He ran in and put his arm around her. As far as I'm concerned, Raina is the one who deserves all of the accolades. She showed a lot of maturity and growth for being only a minor character. She's bad ass. At least she has more balls than Blair. 

   Posted 5/17/2011 2:17:18 PM #

3. Anyone watched finale yet? Spoilers?

   It will end up being a fake positive or something anyway-B cant have a baby, it will totally ruin the show...it will just cause enough drama for her to go back to Chuck... 

    

   This show is shit. I'm through. I can't believe they would make Blair debase herself. Sleeping with Chuck because he kissed her fucking hand while they were being carried on chairs?!?!? 

    

   If she is pregnant it'll ruin the show. Only the little chair freaks will be happy. Now Chuck owns both her dignity and her ovaries. 

   My God, I can't believe that this is happening in this show. they were trying to force us to believe Chuck has grown up. they must have had three characters say "wow Chuck, you're growing up!". they are so desperate to make us believe Chuck can undergo a transformation in just three weeks time after abusing his girlfriend for over four years.

    

   GOOD JOB WRITERS, YOU'RE EVEN MORE FUCKED UP THAN I ORIGINALLY GAVE YOU CREDIT FOR.

    

   fuck this show. it's fucking pathetic.

    

   and also, we're supposed to suddenly believe that Serena reads? And Fitzgerald? Please. That scene made me laugh so hard. She sounded as if she was reading off of a spark notes summary page. 

   They need to stop insulting the legacy of the original one hit wonder author and allow Blair and Dan to convince audiences that they actually know their Balzac and Fitzgerald.

    

   Posted 5/16/2011 10:26:28 PM #

4. "Chuck Bass is a Feminist"

   OP: There literally are no words to describe what I feel about your post. You're already convinced you're right, so there's no way to possibly make you see reason. Keep on loving your dark night, sweetheart. After all, it's just a show and you obviously believe someone like Chuck Bass sees his women as being equal. smh.

   Posted 5/7/2011 8:33:58 PM #

5. Okay so, Chuck.

   You need to read the content of this thread to see that nobody, even HARDCORE chair fans, is even remotely suggesting that.

   You just wrote:  I believe he can stop causing Blair physical and most evidently mental harm, YES, but thats only gonna come from him changing few things. He can still be a bad guy, and a villain, but Blair should be off limits, if he truly loves her. And Blair is the type of person who will stick by you no matter what. As a friend, lover, wife whatever...thats just who she is and I love her for it.

   Even if he does change his ways, he and Blair shouldn't be given a chance to still be together. What exactly were you insinuating with this then? There should be no chance for reconciliation regardless of the Chair bias you have. That's what angers me to no end. If this is in keeping with Chuck's character then they need to exemplify Blair as being the victim who moves on from her abuser. Her staying dedicated to him is not strength, it's weakness. She needs to leave him and his issues alone. She is only human, she can't save him. Regardless of whether or not this is fact or fiction, they should know what they're dealing with when they write these storylines.

   Posted 5/6/2011 12:21:38 PM #

6. Okay so, Chuck.

   COME ON REALLY PEOPLE PLIZ STOP THIS !!

   THIS IS A TV SHOW HE IS A BAD BOY SO WHAT ??!! HE DONT MURDER MILLIONS PEOPLE....

    

   As you'll notice, I've apologized for my rash comparison. I don't appreciate people playing down this issue of abuse and saying a relationship is still possible. It's offensive to those of us who have been abused. 

   Posted 5/6/2011 11:23:37 AM #

7. Okay so, Chuck.

   I am not reading into things deeply, trust me. Any notion of Hitler in conversations will spark up outrage and hit soft spots. I hope you understand that.

   Then please understand that you saying that Chuck's behavior is something Blair could potentially go back to and move on from really offends me. Abuse is no joke and it affects you for the rest of your life. Attempting to write it into a character means you take on the responsibility of having to accurately portray the effects. Saying there is still hope for reconciliation is horrifying to me. You don't go back to someone who abuses you. You don't.

    

   Posted 5/6/2011 11:22:03 AM #

8. Okay so, Chuck.

   You just compared Chuck Bass to Hitler. Fictional villain to a REAL LIFE MURDERED of millions, including my own Serbs...I just cant....conversation ends for me right here.My goodness. You tend to read into things very deeply (I can't blame you considering your history). Chuck is not hitler. I know that. I understand the circumstances are different, I'm comparing the intentions overall. I apologize if this hit a negative note. I really do. I just don't condone abuse (as a result of my own history. I can't see chuck as anything but sinister).

   Posted 5/6/2011 10:57:48 AM #

9. Okay so, Chuck.

   ^ In addition, i can't support someone being in a relationship when they feel that way. Blair shouldn't keep on going back to him just because she's "dedicated." There comes a certain point to where that dedication becomes masochistic and that is not ok. 

   By all means, let Chuck go through a one episode stint in rehab, but he shouldn't be with Blair. He has pushed the envelope too far over a long period of time and the abuse needs to stop. It's not right. 

    

   Rooting for them as a couple meaning one is willing to excuse actions. Blair is a human being in the scheme of things and eventually she needs to think about herself in relation to her dedication to others. People might admire and love that about her, but it gets to the point where she it becomes stupidity and she needs to learn right from wrong. A woman will never get back together with the man who abused/raped her regardless of rehabilitation because she needs to move on.

   Posted 5/6/2011 10:55:29 AM #

10. Okay so, Chuck.

    I would not go that far, im sorry. He has done nice things for people. Last time I checked, the actual relationship with Blair for the most part in season 3 was normal, supportive, sweet and loving.

    He appologized to Jenny, been there for Serena and Lilly many times, loved his father so deeply and unconditionally and did everything possible to make him proud.

    For the most part, great and supportive friend to Nate.

    I mean, he is a villain, but to call him a demon is truly discrediting ALL aspects of his characters, most bad, but some are good.

    I would. He is a Demon in the literary sense. Is he still human and entitled to a range of emotions and feelings? Of course. That is what makes his character so complex. However, that "darkness" that female fans find so attractive is indicative of something sinister. Chuck's overall persona is dark. I think you are taking "demon" as an indication of someone being wholly evil. No. Hitler was a demon. Did he have a sad upbringing? Yes. Did he lavish love and care on his godchildren? Yes Does that make him human? Yes. However, was he still a demon? Of course. His overall actions and intentions denote something far worse than what we see. 

    Posted 5/6/2011 10:49:30 AM #