Invested In Your Future Forum Posts
I frankly doubt we would have a very definitive endgame anyway.
It will either be DELENA, or unclear(for example Elena dying or Buffy/Katherine approach of "why the hell should I choose?" to the problem).
As for it "never happening". <sarcasm>yeh sure...spike and buffy also obviously never ever happened and entire 4 last seasons of their love-hate relationship surely were just an imagination in the heads of fanbase. Elena/Damon in the books also obviously NEVER happened and last few books surelly did not build them up as endgame...</sarcasm> Let's face it. DE happening is innevitable. Will it be endgame? NO one knows(imo if writers have any bit of decency they will honor Author's wishes and make it endgame), but the fact that it will happen is certainity.
Not surprising. Elena has a good foundations, but the show practically strips away anything fun or interesting about her and barelly lets Nina Dobrev to even shine in her role. We all know N.Dobrev has the guts to act the hell out of anything, but the show is so determined to only give Elena "and I care there standing" type of scenes instead of something interesting. This is why BTVS was such a good show. It did not fear to let various actors and characters to have scenes where they get to shine. Its no wonder that characters like Katherine are based quite a lot on characters from that show.
I certainly hope the betray klaus part is "I will now be badguy instead of you" and not "ha i have been playing you all along, I have always been this big fluffy puppy and never went bad, ha!"
Because if its latter...I am disappointed...
Elena lacks, for the reason of term, a "darker" edge of her personality. Thats the part that is annoying.
She is not allowed to make mistakes, selfish decisions or be at fault for anything. She is not allowed to have fun(unless her idea of fun is the same as of 40 year old woman in victorian times).
Yo do not need the character to go evil for him/her to be fun to watch and see(Buffy could never have been defined as "evil", but it did not forbid her to grow darker and more messed up through each season, from constantly hiding something from her friends, from making mistakes, from being a complete biatch at times, from emotionally hurting people she cares about, from trying to kill pretty much every friend she has at least twice in the series or from acting like a psychopathic control freak to the point that everyone would betray her).
I do not even expect for Elena to go as "dark" or "deep" as Buffy has through years, but I do expect Elena to be fallible, to be human, to actually HAVE personality traits that could not be described as "holy messiah"...
She just...cares, stands, cries and makes statements. And thats why her character feels so...hollow when compared to Katherine
if talking about Books, then Elena hands down. hated book-katherine, while Elena was one of the most colorful and fun characters.
if talking about the show, then Katherine hands down. tv-Elena has yet to show any of real personality. Whule Katherine is the true star of every scene she is in. Reminds me of what would happen if Buffy would have gone(completely) crazy.
So we either went from summer end to summer beginning(its not that impossible to have summer without any snow in various places of the world and usa) or from summer's end to winter's beginning(less than likely).
If so then its too bad - we never saw christmas, we never saw new year, we never saw any clear indication of that timeline. With Buffy you sort of had idea on how time progresses due to the school's progress and in most of cases(barring certain unique ones like Season 6) it was one season=one year. And thus we properly saw the timeline progress, people finish school, enter university, find jobs, etc...Not to mention that gravestones of important people having died would also update us on the current date. And every mentioned event, everything, slowly falls into place into nice 4000 year spanning timeline.
So far tvd timeline is WAY TOO WONKY.
Elena HAS to finish high-school. She HAS to turn 18(although better without birthdays, as I am pretty sure they would be just as bloody and tragic as Buffy's) and etc. We have to have some sense of progress in their lives.
All I can say is that if after 7 seasons from now they will still be in the same high-school I will vomit...
Frankly we do not even know on if it was the curse which created the doppelganger line. All we know is that the petrova doppelganger is needed for breaking the curse and that the original petrova most likely was somehow involved in the curse.
I am thinking that succubi are older race than werewolves. Witches( if it was witches who created vampires) HAD to base Originals on something.
In fact, if we follow real world mythology, the VERY first succubus was the first woman ever created, Adam's first wife, Lilith and from her all creatures of the night(succubi, incubi, etc) were born.
as for powers: its a common misconception that succubus only has to do with sex. succubi and incubi have a lot to do with overall magic power. In fact, in most of arthurian legends, Merlin got his powers granted by an incubus. They are also known to be able to travel through dreams. Not manipulate dreams like TVD vampires and real world vampire mythos can, but outright teleport through dreams They are also portrayed as masters of manipulation and are pretty much demons in human flesh, capable of various things
There are many mythos in the real world about various men of power(popes, kings, etc) saying that they got the position they were in with the help of those creatures and powers ranging from myth to myth.
There are also succubi offsprings, "cambions" - described to be devilishly cunning, beautiful and completelly immortal. Cambions are mostly portrayed as having power to persuade people to do anything they want. They are known for their inborn abilities to lead, inspire and manipulate people. Cambions also are known in the legends for their unimaginable and unlimited heights in magic arts. One of famous mages in arthurian legends, Merlin, was a cambion. Some mythologies even have cambions and incubi/succubi as beings who are completely invincible to magic.
Also betting we will see more variety of hybrids, for example human/vampire hybrid(Meredith).
Season3: "not-ghosts", possibly something else too.
Season4: succubi and/or kitsunes, maybe some kind of tv-not-bug-version of molochi.
Out of possible book things and etc: Angels, Demons, Dark Dimension, shapeshifters(mentioned by alaric that the location mystic falls is is full of shapeshifter folklore), druids(mentioned multiple times to have relocated to MF for some reason)