OT: Internalized Misogyny

 

 

What is Internalized Misogyny?

 

What is internalized misogyny? It’s two big words. It’s a lot of things. Internalized misogyny is calling a woman “a bad feminist” because she wants to be a stay-at-home mom. It’s when any person is derided for being “emotional”—because that’s what women are considered to be, and women are bad. It’s when girls insist that they’re “better” than “other” girls who like pink and boys. It’s when a girl is considered “stronger” than another because she kills rather than heals. In order to achieve equality with men, some second-wave feminists claimed that women must make themselves as “masculine” as possible. They needed to invade places society deemed as male, such as the workforce and science labs, wear pants, hide their emotions, and among more radical feminists, exclusively date women. This movement came from good intentions—the feminists of this era were tired of being told they could only be housewives while men earned money. They rejected the notion that they needed to look a certain way to succeed in life. However, this resulted in total demonization of femininity and of women who wanted to express themselves in a feminine way.

 

In 1968, the group New York Radical Women distributed a brochure called “No More Miss America!” and protested the contest. Part of their demonstration was a “huge Freedom Trash Can (into which we will throw bras, girdles, curlers, false eyelashes, wigs, and representative issues of Cosmopolitan, Ladies’ Home Journal, Family Circle, etc.—bring any such woman-garbage you have around the house)” (McCann & Kim, Feminist Theory Reader: Local and Global Perspectives, p. 90). Contrary to popular belief, this group never burned bras—but their insistence that women would only become “free” if they rejected beauty products and women’s magazines ignored women who used makeup and other “feminine” products to express themselves. While some women felt empowered by the growing acceptance of female masculinity, the movement made other women feel guilty and alienated because of their femininity (Pilcher and Whelehan, Fifty Key Concepts In Gender Studies, p.69). There is no wrong way to be a woman, man, or anything in between—internalized misogyny is insisting that only “some” of us are right. For a definition with 90% more jargon, internalized misogyny is the involuntary internalization of sexist messages fed to us by our surroundings, authority figures, and the media—for example, assertions that “real women have curves” or “real women don’t wear dresses”. Sexism is perpetuated when people who have internalized these messages reiterate them in their daily lives. Internalized misogyny is a subtle form of oppression, and leads to people hating themselves and one another , as well as women blaming themselves and other women for their own oppression. By directing our hatred at ourselves, internalized misogyny distracts us from addressing and fixing our own sexist cultures.

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4x14 Thread

But the end result is that he pretty much treats women and men the same.

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Not according to Joseph Morgan that stated that Klaus is misogynist. And not according to what we saw in the show. Remember what Klaus said during the ritual in season before killing Jules, Jenna and Elena?

 

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4x13 Thread

Kim was one of the hybrid Klaus killed, it can't be her.

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Caroline/Silas

I think that Silas might be Shane or possessing Shane. And if not, he is probably going to possess him later. But I might be wrong.

 I really don't care about Silas. "A powerful evil being that everyone is afraid of"? TVD used this too many times for me to care. And really, they made the Originals ridiculously powerful and now Silas is supposed to be even more powerful than them? Please. Maybe he doesn't even really exist, it could be like the sun and moon curse. If he does exist, I hope tvd will for once kill the damn villain instead of keeping him and make him "misunderstood". I don't want countless plans about how to kill Silas that all fail like it happened with Klaus. For once I want the show to kill the villain off, hopefully in the finale.

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4x10 Thread

The phonecall was so creepy! We were supposed to see it as disturbing, RIGHT? Please, tell me we weren't supposed to see it as romantic.

I don't get why the fandom says that one brother is better than another: the last scene proved that they both can't care less about Elena's agency or Elena in general and only care about themselves and their man pain.

Look, I don't care about the love triangle. I really don't. And I never cared about Elena. But I find the way they both treat disgusting.

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The Killer

I found a review of this episode that was awesome. :D If you want to read it, here is the link: http://12-12-12.livejournal.com/

@Bored Now: Why don't you read the recaps of the episodes? That way you know what happened and you can have your own opinion about it. :)

 

I am not going to watch the trainwreck, but I am sure you are wrong, because by your definition even Bella Swan is "awesome and badass" just because she killed some people after turning. Sorry, nope.

Bella never killed anyone. She was tempted twice but since she is a super special vampire she was able to resist.

 

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THE CURE

I always think what Damon does when Stelena have sex in the house lol. He can hear them, right?

Julie Plec said in an interview that he does hear them and so everytime he goes out to get drunk.
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lol im confused....

She is in a way, Book-bonnie

I always thought that TVShow!Caroline was some mix of Book!Bonnie and Book!Elena. :)

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Best show list

 How I took ten years to tell my kids how I met their mother :|

lol     But that doesnt happen? The story spans over 7 years, he doesn't sit with them for 7 years. . .     Well, we do know that he doesn't even let them go to the bathroom! Poor kids. XD Maybe, in reality he has been talking about what lead him to meet the mother for, I don't know, a few hours? Anyway, I don't think that people watch this show because they want to know who the mother is. Not anymore. Mostly, people watch this show because it's funny and/or because they love Barney. ... Do you know that in Youtube someone made a "TVD meets HIMYM" ? And it's awesome! Here is the link, if you are curious: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkPzg884N9s&playnext=1&list=PL7BA9E43548B457BA&feature=results_video
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John's letter was actually very nice

He is just pathetic, and can't handle lost.

 

(sarcastic mode) Oh, poor him! He just wanted to make everyone be in a frozen state forever because his girlfriend wanted to leave him! He was just so misunderstood!

Sorry, but no. That was an horrible thing to do. Many (sane) people are dumped and they deal with in a normal way.

 

 If he was gay, and he did the same thing, you wouldn't call him misandrist. . .

  No, he wouldn't be called a misogynist because the person he did that wouldn't be a woman but I would still consider his behaviour in the same way.  For example, I hated what Willow did to Tara the whole make her forget their fights (and two times too! Even after she had promised that she wouldn't do it again! Even after Tara told her that it made her feel like a puppet in Willow's hands!). And I didn't want them to get together again.     You really should look that word up   Well, if you know that word better than Bored Now then why would you say that "if someone did X to a man you wouldn't call him a misogynist"?     Here is the definition:   Mysogyny: is the hatred or dislike of women or girls. According to feminist theory, misogyny can be manifested in numerous ways, including sexual, denigration of women, violence against women, and sexual objectification of women. I found also this: Misogynist:  a person that hates, dislikes, mistruts, or mistreats women. Example Sentences: They squabble, and sometimes playfully paw each other, and he dismisses her opinions with a misogynist's contempt.
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