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I'm back! Sry about raising anyone's blood pressure with my 1:30p post yesterday framing Stef as the spurned lover better off without either Elena or Damon. Kinda put on my Klaus coat and stirred the pot to see what floated to the top. This is what I believe: TVD is not just the story of a girl torn between two brothers. It is the story of how her love for BOTH provides a path for their redemption. Damon with his impulsive violent behavior when things don't go his way, and the guilt he feels after. Stefan with his denial of his dark side, and his attempt to hide it from not only everyone around him but also himself. The Salvitore brothers have had many lifetimes wallowing in the guilt and pain of their actions after being turn into vampires, with no personal growth. Damon copes with turning off his humanity switch and Stefan copes with his denial. Elena (through her love) is providing a path for each of them to heal themselves.
So the triangle of the beautiful compassionate girl caught between two brothers is not about an end game with either of them. It is all about the journey not the destination and I don't see eternity with either Damon or Stefan as the point of the emotional swings. TVD resets the triangle not to piss off either fan base, but to allow the brothers progress on the path to continue. Their growth will only come through joy of loving acceptance and the pain of rejection. Unfortunately as F'd up as both of them are it's gona take a few times. Therefore Elena's love for each brother is always constant, but the "in love" is always in flux. It's natural for fans to pick their favorite hero to get the girl, and are willing to over look his faults as the relationship pendulum swings back and forth. When their guy is weak or f's up fans naturally attack the other side to shore up their guy. Just maybe the point of flipping the triangle time after time TVD is trying to provide viewers a way past their bias enabler attitudes to one of acceptance.
F*** me what am I rambling about - probably just a story about a fickled high school girl and two vampires who love her and hate everything else!
Great epioside for Stef. Yep got his heart ripped out (so did Elena by the look on her face), but he grew a pair and kept on walking when she said "Stefan wait" He's finaly clear of the 18 yr old who can't make up her mind. I mean come on stringing on two guys for 3 1/2 yrs - professing her love for one, and flirting with the other. At least she doesn't have to worry about choices anymore (SB) Please don't let her pull you back in for another round. You know its coming in 3 or 4 shows by the way she chased him out of the school. Take the time to get the ripper under control, and stay away from Damon, because he's nothing but bad news for you. He spent 3 seasons chasing your girl, and pushing Blood at you. Have some fun with Bex she's hot as you already know already, and wait for the real woman to come back to MF. Katherine is smokin - same package with 500 yrs experience. Any doubt who's better between the sheets? Con grats Stefan the albiltross is off you neck!
Honest Damon is being a jerk to his brother. He doesn't have a SB excuse for not being up front w/ Stef ,about Elena. They did spend the entire day together (brother bonding) on Burbon Street and the ride home the day after he slept w/Elena. Where was the talk? The next day at the cabin he lied about where Elena was and about telling her about the SB. Then it's send Elena home and hide out at the cabin for a week training the guy whose neck he broke. Cell phone seems to work fine if it's Elena. Then Elena's call on the porch she tell him Stef knows, Damon's responce "how'd he take it"Really Damon WTF.Face it Damon doesn't have the balls to talk to the brother he's supposed to care so much about! So he know's how much Stef is hurting, and just how long will he wiggle around talk. My bet is only when Stef hunts him up. No excuse Damon!!!!!
Found this on another blog & such a true statement!
Stefan pushes Jeremy to kill a vampire.. Stefan is a dick Damon sends Jeremy off to kill a whole bunch of vampires in the woods… Damon is just doing what he has to do
Stefan wants to find the cure to save Elena… Stefan needs to accept her for who she is and stop trying to fix her Damon wants to find the cure to break the sire bond… Look at how much Damon loves her!
Damon gets rejected kills her brother..ohh he was just hurt! Stefan finds out about DEx and knocks over a chest board.. Stefan is being too dramatic!
Elena chooses Stefan.. Stefan you should leave town you dick! It’s Damon’s turn be happy for them Stefan walks away from Elena… Stefan you dick! How could you walk away from her like that!
I really don't get DE posters being happy about Damon calling his puppet back to the cabin. I did respect for Damon not touching Elena after he found out about the SB, guess he doesn't care about whats behind her feelings any more. Losts of bad implications if there's no free will for Elena. Looks like Damon has thought about his position of power over Elena and is adopting the no holes barred attitude. After all Elena said she loved him - Who cares whats behind her feelings, he can get what ever he want's now. Saddly I thought he had grown sense Caroline and Andy. Oh well go for it Damon, I'm sure Stefan will understand.
Too bad HBO didn't pickup TVD first - they would have written several juicy 3-ways and solved all the triangle probs!!!!
The Klaus show - nope I'll watch the grass grow!
Wake up people! Elena is sired to Damon not by blood but Klaus compelled her to be. The first 6 eps of season Elena is more committed to Stefan than Damon. Still hanging w/him - going to partys w/Stefan - getting hot and sweaty at the animal hunt and after Bex's party with Stefan, until the hybride posion caused her to see Damon - Her response push him away! not sired. Dirty dancing w/d but still feels guilty - not sired. Can't even keep her sire masters blood down - not sired...........
Doing some things Damon tells her, but not everything. Until the end of ep 6 and her alone time with Klaus. Everything changes at the Miss Mistic party. Now Elena does everthing Damon thinks is right. dress - don't look for Jeremy. Acts like a love zombie!!! Why? Because Klaus has compelled her to switch brothers, and sire herself to Damon!
Big picture here. What could the most powerful, but loneliest being on the earth want? We know Klaus lives for vengeance and can't even keep a relationship going with his family. The only person he can seem to forgive is Stefan. Klaus always goes back to the happy times in Chicago w/Stefan. In fact I think he likes Stefan a little too much, but JP probably won't go there. Maybe the underpinning for this season is Klaus' desire to rip Stefan away from everything he loves and back to him. If I'm right about Klaus compelling Elena to switch brothers, what more effective way to drive the betrayal wedge between triangle? Just a nudge to push Stefan towards the dark-side of his nature, by inserting anger, jealously, and rage into his mind. I even think the Klaus play for Caroline has hidden motives, because he knows Stefan and her are close friends. Klaus is the puppet master this season - the pieces are in place, and he's going to watch them dance. Besides if everyone is fighting they can't organize to attack him while he's weak. Just some thoughts...........
Damon has a couple of rough decisions coming in the next few episodes. Can't really be w/Elena with the bond active.(which we all know it still is) Going to the cabin to hang with Jeremy and Matt. Is he going to tell the truth about the bond? I don't think either of them would be very receptive of that news. In fact no one in the series is on the Delena train except Klaus and dead Rose. Lots of convincing to do without a blowup. Then there's Stefan. How's that conversation going to go? Looks like it could be a major (although temporary) split in the Salvatore brotherly bond. Stefan's pissed and just because Damon didn't the bond was in play, is probably not going to mean much.
Elena is sired to Damon but not by his blood. Klaus compeled her to forget Stefan and sire herself to Damon. The writers have given us the evidence to support this in the first 6 eposides. Elena isn’t blood sired to Damon when she changes to a vampire. 4.1 Elena tells Stefan she was coming back for him when she died,the best decision I ever made she tells him. 4.2 Damon blood shares w/Elena but she cant keep it down. (just like the animal blood) Elena shows no interest in leaving with Damon at the memorial service. 4.3 Elena goes to Rebekah’s party w/Stefan Not Damon, and leaves w/Stefan for the motorcycle ride. Then back to Elena’s room for hot vamp sex w/s until hybrid toxin makes her hallucinate see damon and push him away. Not something a sire would do to the master! Enter Klaus (first clue) save Elena from hybire posions and wants nothing from Stefan but tells Elena he may have a use for her yet!!! The one thing Klaus wants more than anything else is to break up the Salvatore brothers. He hates Damon and still wants Stefan back with him. He’s still pissed at all of them for killing him and klaus always gets even. He dosn’t act now because Stefan is there, and her feeling for the brothers don’t change the next two eposides. 4.4 Elena feels guilty for dirty dancing w/Damon she tell Bonnie shes having feelings she doesn’t want and becoming someone she doesn’t want to be. 4.5 Elena writes in her journal I’m a vamp and I hate it. Still loving towards Stefan and kissing him. 4.06 Now Klaus makes his move. He grabs Elena to keep her safe from the hunter hallucinations he tells the brothers, but he is finaly alone with Elena and compels her to leave Stefan and sire herself to Damon. The next interaction with Damon is in her bed when she grabs his hand and with doe eyes tell him how he always saves her. Damon feels guilty and tell her every thing Stefan is doing is for her. She just stares and asks no questions (not elena) The next interaction with Stefan she breaks up with him. Next day at the party Elena agrees with everything Damon says (the dress she changes her mind to agree w / d. – worried about Jeremy but doesn’t look for him because d tells her not to (never elena). (second clue) Klaus and Bonnie walking at the party, she asks him how Elena could be such a different person and Klaus says, “It will all make sence eventually”
within 24 hours of the breakup with Stefan, Elena is kicking him out of his house to sleep with his brother. Sure she has feelings for Damon, but she would never act on them this fast and with total disreguarde for Stefan’s feelings or how it might affect the brothers bond. The emotional switch between her and Stefan has been turned off. and the one with Damon turned on, and it happened immediately after her time alone with Klaus. It’s a Klaus compeled sire bond all mind control! Only Klaus can break it!