4x08

I guess Shane is after more darker magic. Damon sacrificed 12 beings once for that 'expression' thing and now he wants 12 hybrids after having something do to with blowing up the councils member.
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My Brother's Keeper Thread

^^ She's becoming a little obssessed with him. which is becoming a bit weird.
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Klaroline or Forwood?

Having Caroline kidnapped is becoming a tad too much really. Next time they kidnap her I want Klaus this time, to rage and slaughter her kidnappers just like Elijah once did when the werewolves kidnapped Damon, he practically ripped their hearts out.
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4x08

I think what @Kitanishi is saying is this: if you take an objective test to determine rape I think we will find to a larger extend that Damon did indeed rape Elena. How so, because a reasonable person might have foreseen that because Elena is sired to Damon she wasn't capable of giving proper consent. While the bond does not affect feelings it does affect reactions. I mean, Elena can't say no to Damon about anything can she, so it can be argued that her judgement was clouded. Orders do not have to be verbal to determine whether it's an order or not. However from a subjective point of view it wasn't rape, Elena had feelings for Damon from way back. And having sex with him was just an outlet of her feelings since the sire bond has little to do with feelings.
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4x08

@Charmed Jenna. Yes, the mythology sounds less cringy than the triangle that they repeatedly try to ressurect every time. I think they should just let it go, at least they had DE happen and tried to balance out the scales and all but if the ratings fell then that should say something.
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4x08

I'm still quite in the dark about some factors. Ok, so what I don't understand about the sire bond is this. If it does not affect the way a person feels what's the big deal about letting them go really? I mean, telling a persn to go and all is gonna break the sire bond but it's not gonna change how the person feels does it? And one other thing, if Elena's feelings for Damon were that magnified, then why weren't her feelings for Stefan magnified too.? If Elena has somehow turned darker as she and the writers implied, then can we chalk her up whole vampire experience for now to the sire bond since Damon was mostly her mentor?
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4x08

^^ this much lol
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Klaroline or Forwood?

Yeah those hybrids seriously need to skip town , sacrificed or not, Klaus won't be too thrilled to have unsired bybrids.
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Klaroline or Forwood?

Well if Klaus finds out, he's gonna obviously kill someone, maybe Hayley or something.
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Klaroline or Forwood?

So Tyler is now Jacob Black v2.0, crushing other subjects with the edict pfffft, how come we never saw any of that since the whole werewolf thing began. They never really delved into pack dynamics and suddenly they've unsired all the werewolves from (Sam) Klaus and Tyler is the alpha of his pack lol.
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