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this thread reminds me of the one where I had the nerve to say that I thought Chuck was the most cruel character on tv. Obviously I don't spend a lot of time watching tv shows because apparently the is a lot of way worst character on tv. Sorry .... what I meant to say, and so were you I bet, is that Chuck is a horrible human being, no matter what . Here we go :
etc...I'm exhausted and it's only season 3 ending.....
other videos suchs as, Chuck hurting Blair physically,the two of them commiting adultery etc...etc
oh and Chuck declaring war on blair ...sorry
um blair has done a lot of awful stuff too. though I agree, chuck has been worse, but after how screwed up his life was growing up, I understand why it's hard for him not to be selfish. But he's changed. dan is hands down the worst character on the show. I know chuck has done some bad things in the past, but at least he's apologized, owned up to it, and changed. dan has always been a sucky person.
Dan is a sweetheart, and he's a hottie. Leave him outta this. :P
Elise of the Upper East Side : So I guess your point is that if you got a shitty childhood you are aloud to do whatever the hell you want but then don't forget to apologies? Chuck may have had an absent father but he had a roof above his head and ate everyday, sorry to say this but his childhood is nothing but terrible. So he was raised by nannies? Some children are left alone in their house taking car of themselves...
dan is hands down the worst character on the show. I know chuck has done some bad things in the past, but at least he's apologized, owned up to it, and changed. dan has always been a sucky person.
Not really. I don't really see where you get this idea? Dan, Jenny and Vanessa all sort of caught the Manhattan/MeanGirl syndrome a few times, contradicting their selves with the hate they had for UES by occasionally stooping to UESider's levels, but that doesn't make him the worst character on the show or much different than any of them. Chuck isn't the only one who's tried to own up to things he's done. I really don't think you have to like CB to know that their relationship is so obviously endgame and forever to drag. But if anything, in this current season and last season, the best person that has been there for Blair is Dan, so I don't think he's a sucky person.
As I told fellow Chair fans, Chuck Bass was pretty much raised by the human equivalent of wolves. If Bart was your father, Jack your uncle, and your mother possibly Evelyn/Elizabeth/Diana/Misty/whoever, I am sorry, even with a billion dollar trust fund you are automatically born f'ed up. In fact, the money made it WORSE.
I pretty much expected Chuck to be a textbook villain in early Season 1. I was so surprised that he actually had some redeeming characteristics. He's what I like to think of as a "gray" character -- not evil, but definitely not always good. They're my favorites in literature, comics, and media. So while a lot of people love Superman and Cyclops, I'm more of a Batman & Wolverine kind of girl. (LOVED Dark!Superman, though!) I tend to like (and ship) antiheroes, so of course, I'm a fan. People are complex and are capable of all kinds of things, even good people. I think the antihero's journey is even more interesting than the hero because often no one is rooting for him (or her)... go, Chuck Bass!
Also, if he didn't offer to pay the dowry? SOME GG fans (ahem) would be questioning whether he loved B enough. For some, there's nothing that a gray character can do for redemption. Oh, well.
I think Chuck is a good person but it was harder for him to accept and realize that he was capable of love and being loved because of his childhood. He grew up believing he killed his mother and that his father blamed him for it. His father was cold, unloving and unsupportive. He used the only thing that he had at his disposal and that was money, to try to buy his happiness. IMO, henever opened up to the idea of love as a form of self preservation... until he met Blair and Lily. I think his character has experienced the greatest transformation and growth.
I know this is stating the obvious but having a stable childhood with loving parents helps tremendously with how one views the world and reacts to all situations. I know Dan's parents divorced but his father (albeit annoying at times) has always been loving and supportive. And from what I remember, he and Jenny had a good relationship with their mother too (I may be remembering this incorrectly...) regardless, Dan had a "head start" at being a good person. Even with this head start thought, he still falls short. I agree with Elise on this one.