Reply to PostDair fans, why do you prefer them over Chair?
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i go away for a few days and dannnnng epic threads. started without me :(
*kicks rocks*
lol
Lol we need you here this forum has been going cuh-razy with dair and chair opinions. lmao
Posted 10/12/2009 5:21:22 AM # -
i see that lmao. but what the heck happened? did chair fans lose some soliders to the other side and is now angry about it? i already know that there are some who get annoyed at the idea with anything but chair but that's besides the point.
did i miss srs bsnss?
:(
Posted 10/12/2009 5:35:48 AM # -
Ill PM you about the srs bsnss
Posted 10/12/2009 5:39:03 AM # -
did chair fans lose some soliders to the other side
this is definitely the case lol I dont ship DB, and CB are still my OTP but -I am not going to lie, all the negativity, childish bashing, and reading through DTD thread from time to time makes me like the idea more. lol
Posted 10/12/2009 5:40:30 AM # -
I am not going to lie, all the negativity, childish bashing, and reading through DTD thread from time to time makes me like the idea more. lol
Lmfao, most chair fan's start having seizures when we bring up the POSSIBILITY of Dair.
Posted 10/12/2009 5:43:52 AM # -
as i read through this glorious thread, i'm beginning to think that certain chair fans are just magically forgetting the trainwreck that was chair in season 2
This is what I dont understand. How people can see Chuck as the reason for her being unhappy. I just feel like her insecurities are more about NYU and not fitting in there. From what I´ve seen he has actually been supportive of her and trying to make her feel better.
can't speak for everyone but i am a firm believer that the entire season 2 debacle wasn't exactly helping blair's insecurities. chuck might be helping NOW, but that certainly wasn't always the case. another reason why i do not ship them. but it's easy for you guys to pin it on one episode and just believe that that's the reason we all 'blame chuck'. that i don't understand.
At least that´s what it looked like to me in the end of the last episode. IKR? seriously, blair is being insecure and annoying not because of chuck, but because she is having problem fitting in NYU. and i really dont think they are doing this sl so chuck can rescue her, they would do it even if she wasnt with chuck, they love to picture blair as insecure and use her for comedic relief.
yeah blair has always been insecure. i know this. i still state though that in season two it had gotten considerably worse. i don't understand how it's such an epic love when the both of them treated each other like shit then embarked on this stupid rocky road filled with potholes that shouldn't have been put there in the first place. as far as the rescue thing goes, i hope you're wrong in even the thought of it. blair hit rock bottom in season 2, and he didn't offer his chariot then. how much lower can she go? chair is already a joke on those who have a certain view on relationships but now she's gotta be the punchline all on her own accord? well that just makes it all even worse. i hope blair finds her way and fast. if it's with chuck then so be it. more powers to the writers to give us something believable. if it's not with chuck, then i hope that pairing busts up quickly. i want fierce blair back.
Posted 10/12/2009 3:45:12 PM # -
I feel like Dair fans are merely Chair-haters. I see more Chair bashing, than Dair praising from their side. Though I will always be a Chair fan, I do like the Dan-Blair chemistry. I wouldn't mind them being friends, but I would not like to see them together. Although I've loved Blair from the start, I don't want her to have upper hand ALL THE TIME!! The only thing that really makes me mad is her losing Yale, and that had NOTHING to do with Chuck.
While a mere hook-up I might be able to tolerate, I can't see a relationship building. We all know Dan is judgmental, no matter how much you may want to deny it. With or without money, he will always be that way. He is the kind of person who thinks he is right all the time, and if someone doesn't see things his way than he's pretty much done with them. There's no compromise, no looking at situations from another pov, nothing. And Blair's pov in life is completely different from his, which is why he will never tolerate it. It's not him being new money that will give the relationship an easy access. Chuck's family is also new money, but it wasn't his take on life, his power and position, or even his "I'm Chuck Bass" appeal that attracted Blair to him. If that was it, then they would've hooked up ages before they did.
He was the only one who saw and accepted Blair for who she really is. He's never tried to change her, merely bring out her true self. And while all the Dair shippers complain about s2 Chuck changing Blair, I dont see it that way. I think it was the other way around. Blair was trying to change Chuck into the perfect guy to fit into her perfect life. And I don't believe that Blair was ready to be in a relationship. In s1, she acted like she didn't give a rat's ass about him, but then in the season finale she gave him a chance so she wouldn't be alone now that nate was gone. And I dont blame Chuck for his attitude toward Blair in "A thin Line B/W Chuck and Nate." I love Blair, but that doesnt mean she is always right. I can't blame Chuck for not running to her side after she acted like such a c*nt toward him, and perhaps at that point he didnt think she was worth losing his friendship with nate.
That's why I dont have a problem with s2. And although I do feel bad for how much she went through, to me, as an audience, it was evidence that she really did love Chuck, which I didn't believe right away. It's a good balance of power because its not "You'll be with me when I decide you will," in the end.
Neither was letting the other gain control over them, and they werent used to that, which is what made it rocky for them. But when they said their respectives ILY's, they did it because they wanted to, not because they were asked to.
While Dair fans may want Blair to have all the power, I don't. I know when she is wrong, and although I hate that the writers are punishing her for somethings more than she really deserves, I don't see that being a problem derived from her being with Chuck.
Posted 10/12/2009 4:40:11 PM # -
"Yea the same way he didn't criticize and patronize Serena during the entire duration of their relationship."
Oh, wow, and you don't see any possible difference between the two?(I mean Blair and Serena)
Other than that, Serena did not trust Dan, and never let him completely in, Serena gave Dan plenty of reason to be suspicious, and judgmental, among other things, there is also that whole preconcieved notion thing they had before they actually were in a relationship that I keep blabbering on about, but no one seems to listen.
"See, that is where we disagree. I do not see a mutual respect. Blair does not respect him, he does not respect her IMO. "
This proves to me that you are completely blind to anything that is not Chuck/Blair on this show.
Watch 1x04, and 2x08, and tell me that neither of them didn't feel some respect or mutual admiration for eachother, at least for a little while.
"Personal the fact of dan and blair makes me want to barf or go jump of a brigde it might be worst than chuck and vanessa.And chuck does not make her sad,did you see the look on her face when her said her loved her.Dan is very judgemental and he would make her crack she could never be herself.At the most i hope he learns to be less harsh and they can be friends"
THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS WRONG WITH THIS POST.
CANT EVEN FULLY COMPREHEND!
Posted 10/12/2009 5:18:44 PM # -
I dont blame Chuck for his attitude toward Blair in "A thin Line B/W Chuck and Nate." I love Blair, but that doesnt mean she is always right. I can't blame Chuck for not running to her side after she acted like such a c*nt toward him, and perhaps at that point he didnt think she was worth losing his friendship with nate.
i never claimed either one of them were in the 'wrong' in season one. season one was the best display of the chuck and blair dynamic. i don't blame him for his actions in that episode either. although i don't think that she just ran to him eventually in the end just because she 'didn't wanna be alone'
That's why I dont have a problem with s2. And although I do feel bad for how much she went through, to me, as an audience, it was evidence that she really did love Chuck, which I didn't believe right away. It's a good balance of power because its not "You'll be with me when I decide you will," in the end.
i believe there was some sort of love on her part in the first episode. um hello, the guy you planned your summer with leaves you in a foreign country and you come back weeks later still admitting that you thought about nothing but him? i think it was fairly obvious in that episode too that she cared when she basically laid it on the line. IF he just said those little words. he didn't. he couldn't. for whatever reason. the second that it became clear that basically, despite all that he's done, she STILL followed him around without question clearly displayed power. he had it. she didn't. and that's just ridiculous to ship a relationship like that. i'm not a masochist so i'll never understand it.
Neither was letting the other gain control over them, and they werent used to that, which is what made it rocky for them. But when they said their respectives ILY's, they did it because they wanted to, not because they were asked to.
again, chuck had control the entire season. it was a big giant cat and mouse game that SHE was semi forced to play if she wanted any chance with chuck. it was obvious that chuck bass just didn't 'do' relationships. he didn't want to be conventional. though i do like the fact that he sort of had to be in order to be in a real relationship with her, cause at least blair held her ground about something. i just didn't want to see all of the pointless shit. and just because you understand it and for some reason liked it, don't mean that others follow suit. i've seen plenty of chair fans who acknowledged that some parts were extremely effed up but still shipped them anyway. those chair fans i like. they think outside the box. and fyi, the entire season had been about getting chuck to say it. even in the later season 2 episodes, where blair was 'with' nate but still after chuck to say it. if that's not 'asking' i don't know what is.
While Dair fans may want Blair to have all the power, I don't. I know when she is wrong, and although I hate that the writers are punishing her for somethings more than she really deserves, I don't see that being a problem derived from her being with Chuck.
i never said i wanted blair to have 'all the power'. i just don't want her to continually degrade herself day in and day out over 'love' or anything in relation to it. it's not really fair. the big thing that chuck had to overcome was his own complex about relationships. which in hindsight, he got the girl so it seems like a fair trade right? blair on the other hand, only has an entire season worth of humiliation to overcome. no big deal. if you like that sort of thing.
While a mere hook-up I might be able to tolerate, I can't see a relationship building.
if you can see dan and serena (which you had) you can see this. most importantly, if you see chuck and blair (which you do) you can see that. this argument is so moot.
We all know Dan is judgmental, no matter how much you may want to deny it. With or without money, he will always be that way. He is the kind of person who thinks he is right all the time, and if someone doesn't see things his way than he's pretty much done with them.
blair is judgemental. blair is snobby. and blair (well the old blair at least) dont give a shit if you see things her way. either she will force it, or you simply don't matter. so i guess she and dan are a like after all huh?
There's no compromise, no looking at situations from another pov, nothing. And Blair's pov in life is completely different from his, which is why he will never tolerate it.
if dan can overcome what georgina sparks has done to him and his relationship with s, then i seriously don't see how him getting with blair is such a stretch of the imagination. this season alone proved that dan is coming around. a lot better than he was in season 2 and light years better than season one. and the fact that blair sort of leans on him in college now, proves she's making progress too. face it, the two have more in common than just serena now. and with the rumored take down of georgina coming soon, they'll have a lot more. it's not a stretch anymore. sure these reasons you listed might be obstacles, but nothing that they can't overcome. i mean she got the almighty chuck bass to say he loved her right? she can do anything.
It's not him being new money that will give the relationship an easy access. Chuck's family is also new money, but it wasn't his take on life, his power and position, or even his "I'm Chuck Bass" appeal that attracted Blair to him. If that was it, then they would've hooked up ages before they did.
i thought that chuck and blair were a lot a like. i get what she liked about him and i get what he liked about her. but i still thought overall, it was cause they were a lot alike. much like dan and blair are. one of the big reasons that blair is such a hit like she is is because she's relatable. i'd say that with nate, she probably had the least in common. but with dan or chuck, i think they have a whole mot more. and please, money don't equate in this by any means. chances are rufus and lily won't tie the knot so money won't be an issue.
Posted 10/12/2009 5:30:55 PM # -
And I don't think Blair was "not ready". She even tried to rationalize their relationship by saying "We don't have to do those things, we could do the things that we like". To me that sounded like a plea. She wanted to be with him badly. She wanted to be with him so much that she was willing to accept his proposition to wait until the future, until he was ready.
yeah i know. i believed she was 'ready' from the beginning. there was nothing in her character history to suggest that she wouldn't be. but the writers chose to dress it up as if she weren't as if to put her on the same level as he. to me, that's not very fair. that's one of the reasons why i attribute blair's downfall to them. a lot of her personality had been compromised. and not for a very good reason considering it truly did not need to go that route.
Posted 10/12/2009 5:49:58 PM #
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