Dair fans, why do you prefer them over Chair?

Fackin' Alpha
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"this is why i don't ship chair. i am a female. i'm not perfect nor do i pretend to be. but i like to think i have a good sense of self. i will not jeopardize that for any man regardless of how much i love him. cupid himself in his diaper/wings glory could shoot me in the ass with an arrow and do all but give me a compass GUIDING me to my one true love and not for a single moment would i lose nearly all of my ground for this man. will not happen. i won't let him treat me less than what i feel i deserve. excuse my french but fuck that lol. seriously. and if i feel that i need to jeopardize any of that for that guy then clearly i don't need to be with him. in knowing that, i can't ship a couple who's (as messed up as they were) start off so strong. to limo sex. plotting together. then to having him break away and have it somehow be a 'joint' decision. cause like i said, in 2x1 i thought it was kind of brilliant to have blair to admit that she was still into chuck when she felt she shouldn't have been. for the first time it showed just how much she was into him and it was clear from that episode just how much he was into her. but what pissed me off about chair in the beginning was the preet a poor j episode, where chuck got to be the one to basically lay down the law with THEIR relationship. informing her in his own words that he wasn't ready for a relationship as the writers tried to dazzle it up and make it seem like SHE wasn't either. that's a sack of shit. out of the NJBC, she's (along with nate questionably) the one who had the most experience. how do you go from being as romantic as she was in the first season to 'suddenly not being ready'. in my mind, yeah that's changing a part of her to suit HIM and that's not fair.

from that point, i'd like blair to have made some sort of effort to move on. a real effort at least but it seems she never did. instead she kind of put herself on his level, then almost got crucified for it. GG was right in calling her a weakling because when it came to chuck that's exactly what she was. maybe i could have bought the entire thing a bit better if this was how she came across in the first season, but she didn't. it seems that the old blair waldorf would sooner cut her hair completely off and shop at walmart before sinking to the new lows she did in season 2. and over a guy? omg please.

but as so many sarcastically like to note, yeah i do think apart of her inner downfall is to do with chuck. and it sucks because in my mind it's not love. or at the very least, not a good representation of what it is to be. and i get that they are young and might not have it all together yet. but also, if they started off that badly then it might not be that good."

w-t-t-b, THIS is why you're so damn awesome, in fact, all your posts so far in this thread are awesome, too bad nobody seems to really comprehend what you're saying.

"And you are right Serena and Blair are two completely different people. Blair is much worse."

I disagree.

"But Blair is a very dark person. She plots and schemes and she wouldn't think twice about getting her hands dirty if necessary. To her the ends justify the means and she is never sorry."

While this is very true(at least when it comes to her season 1 self) she is also a very loving, caring, loyal, romantic person underneath it all, when she's around people like Dan, she loves to put up her armour, but the thing is when they see under it, they can really start to see her, you know what the best part about that is? Dan has already seen under her armour, which not many people have, he's also let her under the armour he puts up around her, and despite whatever hate they might have for eachother, they've managed to help eachother through certain things.

Also, the fact that Dan has called Blair in search of a scheming partner against Georgina and Carter shows that he can appreciate this, and that he will get that dirty if neccesary.

"Dan wouldn't be able to accept this. No chance in hell. He would water her down the same way Nate always did and with him she will never discover her true potential and worth because he won't allow her the liberty Chuck allows her to be who she is. "

I wish people would stop posting such baseless, bullshit claims, not only does Blair not have all the liberty you seem to believe she has around Chuck, especially this new, pussy, morally superior Chuck, but to say, at this point, when Dan and Blair havent even happened yet, that he'll water her down as much as she has been during her relationships with Nate and Chuck, is just plain ridiculous.

Posted 10/12/2009 6:12:15 PM #
Fackin' Alpha
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"See I don't agree with this. I think people are misinterpreting Chucks actions as criticism when in fact he is actually trying to push her to do what she really wants. While others will tell her to try and blend in at NYU he encourages her to not allow them to defeat her and to go for what she wants."

So, let's go along with your theory for a second, it's a good thing that Chuck has played his part in getting Blair to, misguidingly, try and take over NYU, like she did Constance, two very different enviroments entirely, a venture that is sure to end up with her coming out broken, defeated, and more insecure if it goes ahead as planned by Blair and her new minions, and this is ok with you?

Posted 10/12/2009 6:25:49 PM #
nanda
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While this is very true(at least when it comes to her season 1 self) she is also a very loving, caring, loyal, romantic person underneath it all, when she's around people like Dan, she loves to put up her armour, but the thing is when they see under it, they can really start to see her, you know what the best part about that is? Dan has already seen under her armour, which not many people have, he's also let her under the armour he puts up around her, and despite whatever hate they might have for eachother, they've managed to help eachother through certain things.

i dont get this. dan is always changing his mind about blair. choosing georgina over blair? really? im sure this episode he is gonna apologize, but it doesnt take away the fact that he judged blair (AGAIN).

Posted 10/12/2009 6:46:38 PM #
nanda
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This proves to me that you are completely blind to anything that is not Chuck/Blair on this show.

wow, now she isnt allowed to have her own oppinion. seriously, you act like you are better than all this chair fans that you love to bash and not respect THEIR OPINNION when in fact you're so much worse. i think everyone has the right to his opinion, i may not agree about what you say about dair but i dont go saying you're blind or anything.

Posted 10/12/2009 6:49:28 PM #
Larissabrasil
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Dan has already seen under her armour, which not many people have, he's also let her under the armour he puts up around her, and despite whatever hate they might have for eachother, they've managed to help eachother through certain things. right. dan understands and accept blair for who she is (sarcasm). maybe that's why he sabotaged her with chuck in 2x08 or maybe that's why he took georgina's side and not blair.

Posted 10/12/2009 6:52:37 PM #
tversky
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I agree with everything you've written Meli. I don't see Chuck as morally superior or critical at all. I see him as trying to help his floundering girlfriend stop hiding from the world, find herself again, get her self-worth back and believe in herself again. (And not to be bitchy but I find it ironic as hell for anyone that wants to see their favorite female character with Dan to criticque her current boyfriend for being morally superior and critical. It's possible for someone to misinterpret Chuck's actions this last episode in that way, but Dan has a consistent history of treating his girlfriends as well as anyone else that way. I like Dan well enough, but he's the KING of Moral Superiority.)

I also agree that Blair just needs to learn these lessons on her own. All Chuck can do is be supportive and encouraging (like when he told her she didn't need some group to tell her she was special.) It seems like some people are criticizing Chuck for the fact that Blair continues to have the same issues she's always had: She's still got control issues. She's still needy. She's still insecure about herself. I think it's sexist to think she should solve those issues through her relationship with a man. As long as Chuck isn't feeding into those issues (which I don't think he is) and is actually trying to help her with them (which he is) then I don't have a problem with their relationship.

I understand that some prefer Dair to Chair. Eveyrone has different tastes. But I don't see the Chair relationship as even remotely unhealthy or bad for Blair. To me it's been honest and MUTUALLY supportive. She was the supportive mature one after the auction when she helped him believe in himself. To me this last episode was him trying to return the favor.

Posted 10/12/2009 6:53:01 PM #
Larissabrasil
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i dont get this. dan is always changing his mind about blair. choosing georgina over blair? really? im sure this episode he is gonna apologize, but it doesnt take away the fact that he judged blair (AGAIN).

lmao. IKR? i dont get how dan knows blair SO WELL if everytime he is changing his mind about her. if he knew her so well he would understand her insecures, flaws and help her, not sabotage her or take other's person side.

Posted 10/12/2009 6:56:12 PM #
Larissabrasil
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Also the fact that he has seen beneath her armour and still proceeds to pass judgement upon her implies that he does not actually accept the person that she is. And not to mention that Blair Waldorf is a package deal. It's very easy for someone to love you when you are at your best but it is exceptionally hard to accept that the person you love isn't a very nice(to put it mildly) person. And that is something that Dan has trouble accepting. It is the reason why his and Serena's relationship didn't work.

so much word to this

Posted 10/12/2009 6:57:43 PM #
Annie85
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right. dan understands and accept blair for who she is (sarcasm). maybe that's why he sabotaged her with chuck in 2x08 or maybe that's why he took georgina's side and not blair.

WORD.

lmao. IKR? i dont get how dan knows blair SO WELL if everytime he is changing his mind about her. if he knew her so well he would understand her insecures, flaws and help her, not sabotage her or take other's person side.

WORD again.

i dont get this. dan is always changing his mind about blair. choosing georgina over blair? really? im sure this episode he is gonna apologize, but it doesnt take away the fact that he judged blair (AGAIN).

he is always judging her. idk how this can be seen as respect.

Posted 10/12/2009 7:03:30 PM #
tversky
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I don't see the mutual respect between Dan and Blair at this point AT ALL. There's POTENTIAL for that, sure. But I don't see it at this point.

Putting aside my Chair preference a second, my main issue with a Dair pairing is simple: I don't see any romantic or sexual chemistry at all. They have great frenemy type chemistry and I enjoy their scenes alot. But I just don't see any romantic or sexual chemistry. I DO think he's enough of a dominant character to handle her. He and Chuck are really the ONLY males that can take Blair on. (I always thought Nate was too passive for her. The same for Scott (ugh). Carter seems like he'd bolt the minute she really challenged him.) But I just don't feel the chemistry beyond the fun, snarky stuff. I don't know this for sure, but I get the feeling a romantic hookup would probably ruin their snarky fun chemistry. A purely sexual one has potential - but I just get the feeling a serious Dair relationship would be the worst of all of Blair's relationships. Just a feeling I have based on how both Blair and Dan tend to behave in relationships.

Posted 10/12/2009 7:11:04 PM #