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Did Chuck do wrong or right?

WKA
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So I've heard that a lot of people have mixed feelings about this scene and I have to admit that so do I.

I expected the scene to be different, and more about Blair and why she is such an amazing person. However afterwards I realized that it wasn't a bad scene just because it wasn't like that. That's the complaint that I had, while others have more.

Some people think that Chuck was arrogant and rude, and made the whole thing about himself, but I disagree. The storyline was about him being worried about her and he told her he understood what she was going through and that he wanted to help.

But Blair objected because she was already convinced that she couldn't fit in at NYU. The more he tried to help her, the angrier she got and I can totally understand that. It's a normal reaction that most people have. Why listen when you've already given up?

And that's when Chuck used a different method to get through to her, a similar thing to what she did last year, when he was standing on the ledge of the rooftop. She had tried so hard to be there for him before, but he pushed her away over and over again.

I never really thought about this until today, but in that scene when Blair made the speech, she didn't talk about him as a person at all. The things she said was about her feelings for him, and how hurting himself would hurt her too. And that worked way better than all the encouraging things she said before.

Just like Chuck now reminded her that he's a guy who's never been in a real relationship, never had a family, never had that many friends, and never even said 'I love you' to anyone. But she was the one person that managed to change that. And that method worked on her too.

Now I'm not saying that they are exactly the same, I'm just saying that there are a few similarities. Take these quotes for example:

"I'm Chuck Bass! And no one cares."

"They don't care that I'm Blair Waldorf!"

"So whatever you wanna do to yourself, please don't do that to me."

"So the next time you forget you're Blair Waldorf, remember I'm Chuck Bass and I love you."

I think the dialogue wasn't as good as in 2x14, and it could've been better. But I still manage to understand Chuck and know what he means.

I never thought for a second that Blair was selfish at all in the rooftop scene, and I doubt there's anyone out there who disagrees with me. But the scene in 3x04 gave some people a different impression, which makes me sad.

It's like when Blair does something wrong or OOC everyone says: "It's not her fault! The writers are ruining her character!". But when Chuck does something wrong people start bashing him and say he isn't good enough for her. How is that fair?

Maybe it's because Blair is their favorite, so they're on her side. I just wish that people wouldn't judge Chuck that much. The writers haven't treated him that much better either.

So what do you think?

Posted 10/8/2009 8:49:35 AM #
jujulovescb
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im not a big fan of the scene but i think he was just trying to help, i dont think it was about him making everything about himself, he just knew the right words to bring her back to reality. but i understand why some people think he was arrogant, but even if it was the case it would be in caracter, i love this answer from the round table: 5. Are Chuck and Blair more entertaining together than apart? Gossip Guy: OMG are you still watching these two together? Still way entertaining. Chuck's whole motivational speech about how she's letting him down by giving up on winning over NYU? So amazingly narcissistic and something only Chuck could pull off. This couple proves they can still be themselves, entertaining, and in a relationship.

Posted 10/8/2009 8:57:52 AM #
WKA
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And just to be clear, I'm a fan of both characters. That's why I don't like what the writers are doing to Blairs character and the fact that people are blaiming Chuck for it.

Posted 10/8/2009 9:04:21 AM #
WKA
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So amazingly narcissistic and something only Chuck could pull off.

I know that he's narcissistic, but I don't think he is when it comes to Blair. But like I said, people see that scene differently.

Posted 10/8/2009 9:07:46 AM #
Larissabrasil
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why blame chuck for it? i love blair but she was alwyas like this, she is a control freak, she will do anything to have it, even if she needs to embarass herself and act like a child like she did last episode. i thought it was totally in caracter she trying to go back to constance because she wasnt fitting on NYU, how is this chuck's fault? at least he sees when something is wrong with her and confronts her. but you know? for some people blair can do no wrong, she is perfect, so it's easier to blame another caracter for her actions. whatever

Posted 10/8/2009 9:10:40 AM #
GJP2
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Waldass kicks Ass, you just put into words all the things that I have been wanting to post since the time people have been bashing that scene. This is CHUCK AND BLAIR. Narcissist and Masochist. Chuck and Blair who grew up in the UES, the Bad Boy and the Queen Bitch. There have been endless rants about how "B and C aren't how they used to be", and then when they actually do, people still don't like it. Seriously, unless you guys have better ideas, please stop bashing, and try to understand the point of view of the writers, who, by the way WROTE the characters.

I am not in any way siding with the writers and 'defending their honor'. I agree with a ton of people who say that the writers are ultimately wasting time, episodes, and character development opportunities that can actually make the show a helluva a lot better, as well as creating a great number of SLs that only seem like 'fillers' rather than actual stand-out SLS, like the BS fight, NBS love-triangle (which I have to admit could have been done way better), and more. They are putting in too much time and effort in guest stars that wouldn't even be present three episodes later instead of giving us much needed interaction for the main characters.

I understand how everyone feels that Chair, Chuck and Blair, could be written a little differently, and I admit that I also notice some differences between S3 C and B and the earlier seasons. Everyone is saying how BLAIR'S BECOMING WHINY and CHUCK'S BECOMING THE MORALLY CORRECT CHUCK BASS. First of all, has anyone forgot the spiral that Chuck went through 2.13-2.15, and during the earlier episodes as well. This actually showed great maturity in his part, and it may seem like C is all good, but it's just the 4TH EPISODE OF THE SEASON, and they are not the only characters in the show, btw. They can't just totally focus on them week-after-week, I mean, that's why there are main CHARACTERSSSS.

As for B, how did you expect her to be as a freshman in a new place, and not in the UES or Ivys at that. Blair has matured, but at the same time, like most of us, there is something that happens when we step into college, that want to be a high schooler again. For Blair, she's a spoiled control freak, always have been, always will be. We've all learned to love her character that way. Of course she is going to be LIKE THAT in NYU. And besides, if she seems whiny, then maybe it's not all the wirters. Did it not occur to everyone that maybe that is how Leighton Meester interprets B'c character to be, and I actually think that that is how B is whenever she's in an uncomfortable situation. She wants to be boss but can't at the moment, it's actually proper for me that she tries so super extra hard and constantly fails AT THE BEGINNING, because, if we remember correctly, she just got rejected by her super dream school, and has been battling more of her insecurities and such last season. THINK ABOUT IT, SEASON 1 BLAIR, she was a junior, queen B, she has learned all the ropes, tied it herself, she's uber confident and uber on the top, so that was how she was. Now, she's back to the bottome of the social ladder, and that's how she clmbs up, that's B. Don't you guys think that this is a sort of character development opportunity, that in the LATTER PART OF THE SEASON, becase it is just the fourth episode, THAT SHE WILL BE A BETTER BLAIR? And maybe this is a sort of motivation for herm that after all the failures she has in life, she kkeps on moving forward, and ultimately, in the end, rise up and be the QUEEN we all know and love?

Thank you Waldass Kicks Ass, for seeing the benefit of the doubt and keeping an open mind. Sorry for the uber long post, I've been keeping all this locked up for weeks and wanted, no, needed to vent. :)

Posted 10/8/2009 9:20:48 AM #
Larissabrasil
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Are Chuck and Blair more entertaining together than apart? Gossip Guy: OMG are you still watching these two together? Still way entertaining. Chuck's whole motivational speech about how she's letting him down by giving up on winning over NYU? So amazingly narcissistic and something only Chuck could pull off. This couple proves they can still be themselves, entertaining, and in a relationship. lmao, i kind of have to agree with this, i love blair and chuck but both are very selfish and narcissistics

Posted 10/8/2009 9:22:35 AM #
WKA
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It's ok GJP2, just let it all out! That's what this forum is for! :D

Posted 10/8/2009 9:28:17 AM #
nanda
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GJP2 I agree 100% with you. my biggest problem with the writers is when they write the caracters OOC, but in the third season i think they are keeping chuck and blair in caracter, which is a big improvement from the second half of the season, when both of them, especially chuck were acting totally OOC. so what if chuck made the speech about himself (tough i really dont know if it was the case, i think he was just trying to help), this is chuck, he is selfish and narcissist, but he still cares about his girlfriend. why blame chuck for blair going back to constance? this is totally in caracter for blair, she wants power, control, if she cant have it in MYU she will try to have it in another place.

Posted 10/8/2009 9:29:09 AM #
whatisnottolove
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can i say that i just agree with everything that has been said here? but i guess it's easier to blame chuck for blair's actions.

Posted 10/8/2009 9:33:25 AM #