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Dr-hollis

Not only is the NJBC real, I want Dan to make things up with Vanessa.  No, not romantically, but as friends.  You CAN get over someone romantically and just be friends with them.  Some of us actually do have friends that we've known since we were children.  My childhood buddies and I are heading toward our mid-30s, and the older we get, the more I appreciate those who knew me back then.  We've had disputes and disagreements at times, there are other periods where we don't speak or get together, but the older you get, the more you appreciate it. 

 

As the old saying goes, "Make new friends, but keep the old... one is silver, and the other is gold."  Nothing wrong with silver, but the NJBC pretty much raised each other thanks to their crazy parents.  That counts for something, and IF Dair is endgame, then hell, Dan should be grateful, because those three helped Blair become the woman she is, and vice versa.

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Forever-Young
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Yes, I am aware that both Juliette incidents happened in different episodes, but still, like I said I have trouble seeing any Juliette moments as an NJBC thing when Dan was involved and he shouldn't be for it to be an NJBC thing. 

 

But even if you were to count it, then how much evidence of the NJBC do we still have? That, the moment in season one when it apparently started and the shot of them on the steps in season 2. I think I must be forgetting some episodes because in season show, 2-3 moments hardly makes something "canon" to me. The writers may say its cannon now after the fans created it, but they've given us little to no evidence of it on screen. I appreciate that they've all been friends since childhood, but that's it really. I appreciate the friendship between Blair and Serena, and the friendship between Chuck and Nate, but we get very little evidence of the group as a foursome. 

 

i will have to take your word for it with the books because I've read very little of them. They have nothing to do with it really though because it's a very loose adaption. I mean at one stage Chuck and Dan were both in love with the same guy in the books LOL. 

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GGFAN76
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@forever young - just because all four of them are not in lots of scenes together doesn't mean there is No friendship . We can put CN and SB out of the equation as their connection is obvious , but we also have a lot of friendship scenes between the others through the years . Just because all four of them are not on scree together doesn't mean Serena and chuck for example don't have a close relationship.
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LOL actually, I totally agree with forever-young here. When you actually look at what's gone on onscreen, the majority of the njbc is completely fanwanked. It's talked about like its some exclusive club that help one another and don't judge. But all they really do is judge one another and never help one another. I'd never really thought about it before, but @forver-young is completely right. The "njbc" is all talk with very little evidence.

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GGFAN76
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Well that the difference - they call each other out on their actions - it's what real friends do . They judge in so far as they will tell their friend the harsh truth . It's the essence of friendship . But If one of them is in real trouble as in Serena in season one - they are there not to judge but to help . I think Blair made that very clear in her speech in season one
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Forever-young

@GGFAN76, but we're not discussing their individual friendships, we're discussing the concept of the group as a whole, the group we're told is this exclusive club of childhood friends who band together to help one another. The thing is though, we never see it. Never. Where was the group when Nate was homeless? Where were they when Chuck was getting himself bashed up? They were genuinely in trouble. Perhaps they should be renamed to the "SSC" the "Save Serena Club" because that's the only context where they actually work together to help one of their friends is when Serena is in trouble.

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Dr-hollis

The NJBC isn't just fanwank.  Each side of the friendship square has been demonstrated in canon, and has more of a canonical basis than things that some of you vocally accept about this series.  I know that things might be confusing for those who haven't obsessively watched the first four seasons, but the default mode for those four is to support each other... and when one is pulling away from the other three, something is wrong.

 

The NJBC isn't just the same-sex friendships of Blerena and Chate, as many have said.  Even the three couples that have happened among the NJBC were or are friendships.  You don't just have love scenes between Nair, Chair, and Serenate; throughout canon, I can pull out more scenes for each of those pairings as friends only than there is more many, many other pairings, friendships, and situations that you guys accept without question.  NJBC isn't just Twitter or interview "canon;" it's part of the story and backstory.  Each member has referenced things that happened before 1x01.  Sure they have fought, and each has done crazy, sometimes backstabbingly awful things to each other (and with each other).  I was quite annoyed with Nate breaking Chuck's confidence last episode, even though he told Dan not to say anything (of course, Dan did, LOL).  But they are fiercely loyal to each other, will never give up on each other even when asked to, which is why I'm very disappointed with the break in the Danessa friendship.  Nothing that happened between them doesn't mean that they should throw in the towel.

 

I'm actually bewildered that people are rejecting the NJBC on the basis of ship.  In a post-canon Dair scenario, once things have smoothed over, I can't imagine that Blair wouldn't want Nate, Serena, and Chuck in her life and in the lives of her future family.

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When Nate was homeless chuck moved him In , when chuck was getting bashed up he had all his friends under the illusion that he was fine . It was only after Dan stumbled across him getting hurt they found out . Also they were by chucks side when Bart died , by blairs side after the accident . Serena and Nate vowed to take gossip girl down after chuck and Blair got in the car accident . I could troll through all episodes and give you so much more evidence , but t would be exhausting . If you don't believe in the njbc that's fine but the majority of non GG shippers do . Read the writers twitter , people are callin out for njbc scenes - so it isn't just a ruse by us chair fans to demonise Dan which I think is why there is such a reaction to them right now . We won't agree and that's fine , if you don't believe that core relationship is there that's fine too . As a gossip girl fan regardless of ships I see it , along with a lot of others .
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Dr-hollis

Where was the group when Nate was homeless? Where were they when Chuck was getting himself bashed up?

Read more: http://www.tvfanatic.com/forum/gossip-girl/general-discussion/you-do-not-fuck-with-them/page-7.html#ixzz1rlvNVUu0           They're rich and fabulous; they're not omniscient.  Please see what I said about what happens whenever one of three starts to pull away from the group.          Nate ended up homeless because he refused Chuck's help.  I know it's hard to remember Chuck's good deeds, LOL, especially since this was early season 2, but Chuck was willing to take care of Anne and Nate financially... and he did NOT want Nate to know about it.  (Chuck usually doesn't want people to know about stuff like that.)  Nate found out and was pissed.       Chuck was actually with Serena and Nate when he was getting himself bashed up in the first place; it's not that they didn't care about him, it's that it was a plot point to connect Duck in their mutual unrequited love for Blair in the midst of Blouis.  But it isn't as if the Duck friendship was sustained; Dan and Chuck have thrown each other under the bus once again, which we all knew was inevitable.        
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Dr-hollis

I mean, Chair are currently on the outs, but a second later in 5x19, there was an amazing Cherena scene.  Little stuff like that keeps us NJBC fans going.

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