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I have created this forum to hear what you guys think is Samuels Master Plan.  WE know for a fact that he is going around to our heroes and trying to recruit them into his carnival family and now with Sylar in his club he could be potentially instoppable. 

Pyropuppy wrote on another forum that it could be the beginning in a formation of an army where HRG might need to have another company to battle them out. 

I think that Samuel wants to recruit all these heroes and begin the demise of those without powers, maybe Take over the World Summit and have the world leaders bow down to him....GLOBAL DOMINATION!! haha..Forum away guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I know I wrote that earlier post about the two sides battling, but I just had another thought.  Samuel's plan definitely has something to do with revenge for his brother's death, we all get that, but what if it's all an elaborate setup to bring his brother back to life somehow?  I know, it's kind of stupid.

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I like that idea though...simple and satisfying.  What if Samuel is actually gathering these recruits because he wants to be an empath???

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Maybe the compass has something to do with it. Maybe it needs to be in certain proximity to a high number of people with powers in order to raise his brother. That could be why the one compass was thrown into the grave and Samuel wanted the other one- to establish a link between them.

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Good thread Maj. Samuel's master plan is what will keep us gripped this season, much like how they were going to stop an exploding man in S1. Just because I am hoping beyond hope that this show is building to the events of Five Years Gone, I think whatever Samuiel has planned will lead to that. Power and control is what he wants, but I don't think he wants to be overt about it -- thus the carnival. It's the perfect cover. What he is doing now is laying thegroundwork to take it to the next step. He gets Sylar, works to restore his memories, and then pulls the strings to get him into the White House as Nathan. And thus, he goes from controlling a carnival to controlling the States. The more people with abilities he has on his side, the better. Meanwhile, Peter will head up the resistance, with HRG. Not sure where Claire will fall. I like the idea of her going to Samuel's side. It lends a bit to the future scene we got at the beginning of S3 where she is hunting down Peter.

I do wonder where Samuel is getting the power of illusion. I would like to meet the character that enables him to make the carnival appear where it is needed, when it is needed, and then to vanish when it is convenient.

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I hope its Caleb from the web comics.
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The Carnival appears to have a fixed location, yet Becky, Edgar, and Samuel can show up all over the world (or at least the US) and Samuel also bounces back in time, too. It seems that Samuel's people primarily use their abilities for him. I don't think that the Carnival "appeared" in the woods for Sylar as much as a portal was opened for Samuel to walk out and invite Sylar in (like Tracy this week).  That's also how Becky goes back and forth to College. I'm thinking it has something to do with the compass. I recall at least one other compass in the hands of a carnie in the opening sequence of the series (maybe they all have one).

If Samuel is building an army, it holds together out of a mixture of fear and loyalty. Every carnie ability seems to be primarily used for him. He's giving the orders and he sets the agenda. I suspect Joseph was the leader until he was killed by Danko. I'm guessing Joseph was an empath and that he was a bit more mild mannered than Samuel. While Joseph may have wanted to create a family and a sanctuary, Samuel actively sought revenge for his brother's death.

I don't really know what he wants. Power and world domination seem too trite and beneath the story thus far. The stroy does seem to be moving in a Samuel (Magneto) vs. Noah (Xavier) direction with power groups gathering to struggle for or against some objective that has yet to be revealed. As with the old Alfred Hitchcock method, the "McGuffin" (in this case, Samuels plan) does not matter as much as the story surrounding it.

 

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Portals sound better than illusions. Theres the old man who sends Samuel through time, so maybe he can teleport people through space too.

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Also . . . I doubt Becky's been at College for a few years to earn a degree and just happened to be an upper classmen at Arlington University. Somehow, the Carnie powers (maybe something like Parkman's power) set her up in Claire's mom's sorority in order to position her to drive Claire out of college and toward the Carnival. She didn't kill Annie out of spite. It was part of the plan.

If someone joins the Carnival, it may to be a dangerous thing to leave (kinda like the mob). I've seen a mixture of fierce loyalty, fear, anger and a masked desire to get out from Lydia and Edgar. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but that's what I think right now.

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Yes I agree SMM.  According the NBCs short clips that they have online about Lydia and Edgar ...they seem very fearful of Samuel if they try to go against the carny family in any way.   Which makes me assume that once your in the family ...your not getting out so lightly. 

Kal 15 I thought your post was dead on to what I think will happen.  He will get sylar to assume president again and begin to assume control on other countries slowly but steadly leading to absolute power.  Or something in that fashion.  

But all I ask is once the ultimate plot be revealed that it is DARK, TWISTED, and very SINISTER to make us all shit our pants. 

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