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Marty also generally doesn't have the sort of purity common in Mary (although it's not unheard of). Instead, he tends more towards the Darker and Edgier path, with a tragic and very personal backstory being the order of the day. Whereas Mary would use this to emphasize just how special she truly is, Marty uses it for the sake of brooding. No doubt much of the recent popularity of this character trait owes credit to Batman and Wolverine (who can provide examples of Marty Stu themselves, Depending on the Writer), but there's no indication that it only started with those characters.

Obviously, neither of these traits are exclusive to Marty. There exist plenty of God Mode and Sympathetic Sues, but in sheer percentage, it's more common on Marty. Since All Girls Want Bad Boys, after all, increasing the Badass potential of a character has the secondary effect of making him more attractive to women without having to sacrifice any capability. Sometimes, this attitude goes just a little too far and creates Jerk Sue. Just like the Always Male category on this Wiki, there's painfully little that Marty does that Mary doesn't, generally being limited to sexuality-related things. Nonetheless, here's the little bitty list of exclusive Marty Stu traits:

Perma Stubble. Nothing like the scratchy beginnings of a beard to emphasize that no, testosterone isn't in any sort of short supply for him. Actual beards are surprisingly rare. Aesthetically placed scars can keep Marty from being too pretty, while emphasizing his dangerous lifestyle. Sometimes, especially in Westerns, Marty is part Indian (never full-blooded) and doesn't have Perma Stubble. Make him big and muscular. Even in professions where he does little physical work and shouldn't have time to train to be an Olympic weightlifter. While there's nothing preventing Mary from doing this as well, you won't see it happen very often (although there are some examples) because being muscular takes away from feminine charm in the eyes of most writers (if she needs to be strong, she'll often just practice Waif-Fu). Conversely, make him lean and streamlined, as is common with more romantic heroes; the female audience prefers the dancer's build with swimmer's torso. Overly conspicuous muscles are avoided for pretty much the same reason as they are with the Distaff Counterpart: because they detract from physical grace. Similarly, give him an exaggeratedly large penis. No, not a Gag Penis. The author will expect people to actually accept that his member can double as a baseball bat. The more blatantly inaccurate ones tend to be written by women, though. Lots of sex with lots of women (or men, or both, or even more than that). Sometimes up to the point of a polyamory, completely out of place with the setting. Girls can do this too, but thanks to the Double Standard it's usually considered a more Stuish trait.

 

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MartyStu

 

Actually, this profile describes Damonkey of all guys on the show, lol Dan Humphrey makes Klaus look like a virgin, tbh for him to fit the Mary Sue  profile. None of this traits are even remote close to Niklaus, he's a complexed character and to be even compared as a main counterpart of Elena is plain illogical and fallacious or just plain bias as you have clearly have a lot of distaste for Niklaus ever since the  sex-crazed klaroline ship set sailed.

So, no I highly disagree that Niklaus is a gary stu, he might be giving off some vibes to you due to the fact that Plec ia clearly fapping to him now, but actually it's still clear Plec's cholesterol-filled clearly belongs to that poverty-stricken busbitch, by making him  prom king for god knows why.

 

 

Ok I'm done.

 

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Actually, this profile describes Damonkey of all guys on the show, lol Dan Humphrey makes Klaus look like a virgin, tbh for him to fit the Mary Sue profile. None of this traits are even remote close to Niklaus, he's a complexed character and to be even compared as a main counterpart of Elena is plain illogical and fallacious or just plain bias as you have clearly have a lot of distaste for Niklaus ever since the sex-crazed klaroline ship set sailed.So, no I highly disagree that Niklaus is a gary stu, he might be giving off some vibes to you due to the fact that Plec ia clearly fapping to him now, but actually it's still clear Plec's cholesterol-filled clearly belongs to that poverty-stricken busbitch, by making him prom king for god knows why. Damonkey is typical woobie. He is not Gary Stu simply because characters can't stand him and antagonize hem EVEN WHEN he is doing the right thing. 

You do not have to have all the traits to be a gary stu though.

Darker and edgier? check Personal backstory? check family issues? check stubble? check female characters being attracted to him for no reason at all? check. mixed-lineage? check(remember? Werewolves are indians) sex? check apparantly, lol.

Klaus is not FULLY a gary stu simply because S2 writing of him was decent, but he is gravitating in between gary stu and jerk sue and with EVERY second Plec is going closer onto making him a full on 100% gary stu.

Also my personal bias has nothing on this since I am one of biggest book-Klaus stans out there and I actually loved the tv-klaus premise, even the whole part-werewolf shit. Everything afterward tho...

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Just to add: character being gary stu/mary sue does NOT automatically mean that character won't have any depth at all.

That's just simply author avatar problem with elena gilbert. 

 

 

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Klaus is far from a gary stu. He is the most complex character on the show. Unlike vanilla one dimensional Tyler. Tyler: Caroline, me horny. Want sex. U? Caroline: K.

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Nic I can never agree that Tyler is a GS because if he were, the lack of interest the writers have for him would not be so utterly obvious. there is a difference between being a boring character (Tyler) and being a boring GS. As for the exaggerated sex scenes (I loathe forwood but they did not bang every hour), that's pretty much the only decent thing the writers ever gave Tyler. His whole problem with Klaus is justified but Klaus always ended up on top every time. 

 

I meant to add earlier, Klaus gets GS treatment but I wouldn't exactly call him one. He is the most spoiled male on the show, when he doesn't get his way the problem is resolved in five minutes. Recall JP in those interviews, "we truly hate not giving him what he wants, when he gives Caroline the puppy eyes we try not to cave, it's hard" He needs to leave because he is always going to land on top of the characters, but in his own show I suspect they'll do the same thing. 

 

And in S4 correct me if I am wrong, he also became multilingual, globe-trotting, fashion-dictating archaeologist, who build CITIES in his spare time. How is that not a gary stu thing?     He is 1k years old, you dumb ass. There is one thing I will agree with you on, they use his talents to make us sympathize and to convince us that he is layered. The scenes aren't really shoved in your face though, all he did was speak Aramaic for ten seconds and said Magallen taught him how to read a map. But he is a narcissist and he's old, so OFC he'll brag about shit
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He is 1k years old, you dumb ass.

Already answered that argument - strength and weakness balance.

he is so old so yes he will have talents, but he has to have equal amount of flaws for that. 

Book-Klaus also had lots of talents. But he also happened to be asexual, insane, neurotic sociopath/psychopath with a hard-on for wars and torture and without personal memories. 

TV-Klaus has all those thousandyearold talents(hilarious how Plec remembers the age only for ONE chraracter), yet the only real flaws he has is temper and daddy/mommy issues(pretty much same ones as dayday does) and while Plec remembers the age for TALENTS, she does not for personality as Klaus has been portrayed to act as if he was a fucking teenager. 

said Magallen taught him how to read a map. 

Imagine the whole spin off of that shit. What's next? Casanova taught him kama sutra? Michelangelo taught him painting? The Doctor taught him time travel?

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Loll

For Tyler to become a gary-stu the other characters will actually bend over backwards for him

and tyler has only two fans in Mystic Falls, His Mum and Caro

Matt doesm't he's barely his bff all show aside from taking his house.

 

and Tyler-stans, take not Tyler-stans not  Forwood shippers

are not a majority of TVD fans but considered to be iin the endagengered species list.

 

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Nic I can never agree that Tyler is a GS because if he were, the lack of interest the writers have for him would not be so utterly obvious. there is a difference between being a boring character (Tyler) and being a boring GS. As for the exaggerated sex scenes (I loathe forwood but they did not bang every hour), that's pretty much the only decent thing the writers ever gave Tyler. His whole problem with Klaus is justified but Klaus always ended up on top every time. Tyler is not a gary stu because he's boring. It's because he's virtually perfect like Caroline. Even when he does something bad it's excused. Like hiding Hayley was to overthrow Klaus and when he threw the glass at Caroline it was because she helped killed his friend. 

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Haaaa I will never get over that Magallen line, he just wanted Caroline to shut up. Yeah he doesn't have too many weaknesses, I can only think of temper, paranoia and loneliness

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 Tyler is not a gary stu because he's boring. It's because he's virtually perfect like Caroline. Even when he does something bad it's excused

   

He never does anything bad, which would prove your point if he were on screen more and if he didn't end up looking like a dumb ass everytime Klaus wins. From what I saw, he hid Hayley to throw off Klaus, which is pretty clever (and surprising). So I don't see how that was "bad", the leadership stuff was shoved in your face but it was so short lived and forgotten. Tyler is never excused and he barely does anything to be excused, it is Klaus and the ToD who are always excused even when their actions are acknowledged by other characters. I agree that he's virtually a donowrong character and overall a good guy but that does not make him a GS

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