Stelena & Delena Destructive unhealthy relationships!
I find it funny on how this show seems to deliver an OPPOSITE message from the books.
In the books Stefan/Damon relationship is far from perfect. Damon despised Stefan since birth, Father hated Damon, etc. The whole Katherine stuff did NOT help the situation and their bickering and overall hostility to each other made katherine run away from them, which led to them killing each other.
Book Elena is the person who actually forces them to work together and start patching up their relationship. When she gets turned and Brothers yet again try to kill each other she makes sure to stop it and makes sure to manipulate them both slowly into reconciling, using even her own death as leverage(she makes them both promise to defend and help each other as she dies)
SE and DE is surely not something one would recomend, one being a mystical relationship forced by gods and destiny between vampire and a teenager girl, DE relationship a fullblown relationship between evil vampire and teenager girl. However it is resolved and less unhealthy than TV SHOW DES, why?Human Teenager girl in love with two vamps lasts for total of two books, latter on becoming a love triangle between three vampires, with both story and author seemignly going for polygamious relationship Neither Damon nor Stef never have slept with her mother nor her ancestor. They have no direct connection to her family, considering Elena's family lived in USA and the whole salvatore squable took place in Italy. Elena is flawed human herself and does NOT try to change the brothers. She LIKES them different and she likes them for who they are. IT has way less tv-show-tvd angst. It has more of them three dealing with dangers(, interacting, developing as characters, etc, instead of endless hours of pointless tease that tvd-tv DES is.
DES of TV Show is unhealthy because:Damon raped and abused Caroline(Elena's friend) and Andie(jenna's friend) for weeks. Damon snapped Jeremy's neck in front of her and she was oh well with it. Damon BANGED most of her family. Steffan CHEWED on most of her ancestors. Both DE and SE is making D and S completely unstable maniacs and Elena into complete sociopathic cardboard. THe show has a completely opposite message from the books in terms of brothers and does not even realize it. SE comes off more like an obsessive unhealthy sick case of stockholm syndrome. but more on that latter. Elena's life is completely JUST these relationships, her family got slaughtered by car accident, then her family got slaughtered by katherine,then she find out she is magical mcguffin born of magic for sake of DYING, then her family got REALLY slaughtered by Klaus, then she died, then her brother died(AGAIN), then steff murdered dozens of people(obviously not his fault since its all whitewashed), killed andie and the all the girl thinks or talks about are these two relationships.
Writing-wise its a slugfest of Chuck/Blair levels of twisted and does-not-make-sense. Writers tries to make the relationships seem EPEEEEEEEEEEK, just make all three characters look utterly pathetic, to the point that the DES triangle has became the ONLY storyline ELena is allowed to react to or talk about. Characterization-wise, DE does NOT work because of what kind of people both Miss Cardboard and Damondward are, as result, thanks to their characterization of S2 and S1 and S3, any and every scene of DE comes off forced. Lately however it is as forced as Matt's involvement in the plot. Its like writers are SEARCHING for an excuse to make them share scene.
So yes, DES is unhealthy and destructive, to Damon, to Stefan,t o miss cardboard and...to the show itself.
I don't blame Stefan... I blame Damon and Elena.
Great point. I could delve into all the psychological ramifications for Elena's relationships with the brothers, but I'm not interested in the whole bullet plan. Suffice it to say, the DE/SE ships are not a product of thematic elements the writers of this show chose to exercise in an attempt to gain true character development, or to demonstrate the growth of said characters through their ability to achieve a greater level of trust. In writing, it isn't just the characterization that is the issue, it is the whole damn plot.
Also, I do totally agree with you Cizzi about the relationship with the brothers. Most people think that character development involves maturity and the practice of finding some moral compass. They fail to understand in literature, the main characters can suffer moral deprivation to the point of becoming the greatest threat, the antagonist, OR the protagonist only submerging down into deeper degradation.
Whether the writers want to create a demoralized state within this little triangle remains to be seen, but the course is still the same. They are failing significantly.
The relationships are circling the drain.
So Damon is to blame for the current annoying pathetic clusterfuck that is SE? really now? He has a plenty reasons to be blamed for but thats not one of them.
Nobody would watch a brotherly love vamp show.I would. Definately.
love rthe falacious rebuttal i just saw. who decided that just because show has vampires, every main relationship should be pathetic slugfest that destroys everyone and everything interesting?
there has been dozens of vampire fiction pairings that did not need to degrade their participants into shit that does not have anything to do but participate in destructive nonsensical love trianfgles.
romance is good and dandy as long as it knows what it is and as long as it does NOT become the main and the only point the characters. romance should be a supplementary material for characters and help build them instead of degrading every participant
DES is not healthy, nor interesting, nor entertaining, nor has a good writing. its pathetic and what is worse show still pretends its the best thing everrr and takes every chance to force viewers to see just how epic it is.