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Stefan always thought that Katherine had compelled his love and Katherine says that she never did, that it was always real and that so was hers.......... She said she only compelled him to get rid of his fear after she told him she was a vampire.............

Damon always said that Katherine never compelled him, but we know that she did as we saw in the scene in Memory Lane............ But I'm guessing that she didn't compell his love and she also didn't have to compell him after she told him she was a vampire because of his love for her..................

Katherine came back to Mystic Falls for Stefan, which kind of makes sense, being that she did choose Stefan over Damon to take her to the Founder's Ball in 1864.............

But what I don't get is her and Damon......... I mean she obviously never loved him...... She just used him........ I mean isn't Stefan enough???????????? (Although, partly, I don't blame her for going after the two...... lol)

She makes them all believe for 145 years that she is dead......... Then she comes back to Mystic Falls, tries to kill John, claims she's back for Stefan......... and then she goes and makes out with Damon!!!!!!! I mean come on..... what the hell is it that she wants???????????Then in Memory Lane she says "Then Damon being Damon nearly ruined everything".

I love Katherine and I love Damon but I just don't really get why she used and why she's using him................... And I still don't get what he sees in her, because he may be lying to himself but we all now that he's still in love with her............ You can't go 145 years in love and obsessed with somebody and then in 5 minutes go from loving her to wanting to rip her to pieces or something poetic........

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Leared

They have said that Katherine's flashbacks may not be entirely accurate, I'm assuming that they meant the flashbacks she repeated to Stefan and not the one she had at the end.

 

http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/popwrap/nina_dobrev_kLKnzPhdubhjVJhyiDrZ7f

http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2010/09/vampire-diaries-ian-somerhalder-on-romance-bromance-and-changing-the-world.html

 

I think there was one with Kevin aswell but I'm not sure.

When Damon said he was never compelled I think he meant his love for her, he would have remembered all the times he was compelled after the transition (then again Katherine is crazy powerful and we don't know just how much exactly she can do).

I'm not sure if the flashback bit in the bedroom with Damon was completely true because Damon has already mentioned that he was waiting for her after the ball etc(can't remember exactly what he said), I'm not sure why he would mention it if she kicked him out straight away.

Ian did say that Damon knows that Katherine is not the person he should be in love with, but that he could probably still be manipulated by her.

http://uk.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b203116_ian_somerhalder_dishes_on_tonights.html

 

I'm not sure if they will reveal why else Katherine is back so quickly, we might be waiting a while.

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Well-thats-too-bad

When Damon said he was never compelled I think he meant his love for her, he would have remembered all the times he was compelled after the transition (then again Katherine is crazy powerful and we don't know just how much exactly she can do).

I'm not sure if the flashback bit in the bedroom with Damon was completely true because Damon has already mentioned that he was waiting for her after the ball etc(can't remember exactly what he said), I'm not sure why he would mention it if she kicked him out straight away.

yeah i think you're right. damon always made it clear katherine never compelled his love for her, which considering that he knew a whole hell of a lot sooner about her being a vamp than stefan did, i think that's true. plus, damon from season one through flashbacks sort of indicated that he wanted to turn to be with her for eternity.

which means stefan was lying about the compulsion. which is understandable since he doesn't want katherine in the present. as for the flashbacks. i thought in season 1 it showed that they DID get it on after the ball. so idk what to think there anymore.

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Leared

I vaguely remember something like that, I'm 99% sure Damon said they did. I can't remember which episode though.

 

I do think she ~edited the flashback. We usually take them as a fact but unlike her flashback at the end, the ones that were shown while she was talking to Stefan were what she wanted Stefan to think and if she WAS sort of lying then they wouldn't show the truth in the flashbacks while she was talking if we aren't supposed to know exactly what happened yet. (kind of defeats the purpose)

D: I seriously cannot believe I didn't think of that, he would have remembered aswell. He did look genuinely confused after she said she didn't, so I would hope that he wanted to believe so badly that she did he managed to convince himself? idk.

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Well-thats-too-bad

IDK. I guess the writers want Stefan into her? Its clear that they want Stefan/Katherine and Damon/Elena to parallel each other. I'm just not sure why Stefan had to lie to do it. Which is it a real lie? I don't know. Like you said, if he was compelled he'd know. Either way, it's clear Katherine manipulated both men so right off the bat whatever they felt for her wasn't 100% real. Katherine pretended to be something she wasn't. If anything, Damon's love for her was more pure just cause Damon knew what she was and didn't run from it while Stefan didn't. As opposed to Elena, who did nothing particularly special or extraordinary to get the brothers in love with her. She was only herself.

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Victrolalover

I think that Stefan is lying to himself. He still has feelings for Katherine, he just doesn't want to admit it.

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Guest

Stefan was compelled, but only after he knew that she was a vampire. I think that he's trying to remember that and hoping that's the reason that he fell in love with her. So yeah, he's lying to himself

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Boxing-kangar00

^^I really don't think Stefan still has feelings for Kat anymore. Sure he's affected by her return, it probably brought back alot of memories. But whether he's in love with her, I serious doubts.

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Bareerah

^^I really don't think Stefan still has feelings for Kat anymore. Sure he's affected by her return, it probably brought back alot of memories. But whether he's in love with her, I serious doubts.

Agree!

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Guest

I agree with you as well. Not sure if he is in love with her now, but i think he was in love with her in 1864 (was it that year, can't remember it :)). Stefan always said he didn't love her then, but I don't think that's true.

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