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Halde

 The argument of Ric missing something would work if he had actually solved anything else. 

 

He studied the wall(or atleast the pictures) very ferally. Weren't he the one who translated that the necklace means "witch". Their ain't no valid counterpoint for the suddeness of this 2nd tree. They managed to miss it, simply because it weren't there before. They made it up after the episode in which the wall were studied.

Although I wouldn't be surprised if Damon&Co. managed to discover the meaning of this NEWLY drawn figure.

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Halde

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They always showed us two different trees, it is not new. The calender next to the tree is new, but anyone looking at that wall and not knowing the meaning of the calender (if it had always been there) would have assumed all the pictures were of the only tree they knew about.

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can you prove it with actual arguments? NO you can.

 

There was only one tree.

 

Then there were two because writers realized they have no idea how to progress in the plot.

Hence retcon. 

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can't*

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I do not know how to do screen captures or post pictures here, so no I can't prove it. At the end of ghost world they showed a tree on the wall that had people under it, which I assume is the tree Rebekah described in the last episode where the natives where worshiping around the tree. This was a wide view of a tree and the calender they showed us last episode was nowhere to be seen. Then in ordinary people the tree they showed when Elena was talking about the tree used to create the vampires (just before she figured out the hybrid symbol), that tree picture had NO people under it like the other one shown. Then there was also the picture of the tree being burned, so there has always been at least three pictures of trees on the wall.

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These Retcons do not bother me at all, what bothers me is when someone here misses the retcon and throws out something else as the retcon. If your going to bitch about retcons at least get them right.

What do i have to do to get u to understand. I'M PISSED ABOUT THE WAY THEY TRIED TO PASS IT OFF AS SOMETHING THAT WAS NATURAL TO BE THERE, BUT EITHER CLEARLY WASN'T (cause Rick would have seen it in the first place) or clearly was (and they photoshopped it in to make us think so). The method it it being/not being there ....wait for it....DOES NOT MATTER TO ME. What i care about is the fact that Rebecca got it from ONE HALF ASSED PICTURE and she clearly wasn't trying. Can you say coincidence much????? 

A retcon is rarely just "one" situation. Its usually a series of things being changed. In this case both the tree idea and ric magically somehow NOT noticing the tree(sincfe by show timeline it would be there) are parts of same retcon. 

Exactly!!! TVD has been revolvng around too many illogical coincidences lately...THATS WHAT I'M BITCHING ABOUT. There was absolutely no planning behind the idea. THATS WHAT I'M BITCHING ABOUT, not something stupid like how it got there/how it didn't get there. Seriously though, if you want to continue to argue about something as trivial as this situation, by all means go ahead...by yourself. Infact, i think i told you this already. My opinion is that the writer's were insulting our intelligences by being so pathetic to give us the second tree this way. But hey, if you like it then....you like it, has nothing to do with me. I'm done repeating myself. 

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i dont mind the retcon really as long as they handled it well and they dont need to do it constantly,

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Of course Ric saw it after the retcon. I don't find it hard to believe that someone alive (living dead) at the time the drawings were done would know what it means. Where as someone trying to intrepret it hundreds of years later might not get it. It's not like Ric has not had other things going on in his life since the cave was found, not like he hasn't died and gone to the hospital repeatedly or anything.

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