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Help please? (12/21/2012)^I'm so sorry, but I tried very hard to make it clear, but I'm on my Blackberry, not on a computer. :( It absolutely refused to put gaps inbetween paragraphs. @Hookified I agree, and I think BN was right. Its pure slut shaming to the point of sounding like an idiot.
Help please? (12/21/2012)Here's an excerpt from a conversation I had on a forum. The blatant double standard. PoohBear wrote: Whether Katherine truly loves the brothers is not really all that clear. Katherine is a liar and can't be trusted. I don't think Katherine can selflessly love anybody at this point in the series. She loves herself too much, which is why I say her loving Stefan and/or Damon is pointless because she would sacrifice them in a minute to protect herself. She only helps them occasionally and when it meets her needs. She helped Damon with the wolf bite in season 2 but it kind of met her needs because Damon would stay alive and be with Elena. Katherine knew that Stefan would be away with Klaus and she would have a chance to get to him and maybe even win him over. She did the same thing when Stefan was released from Klaus's compulsion. She pushed him to get revenge which pushed Stefan further from Damon and Elena. Katherine is in constant competition with Elena for Stefan's affections. To her, it's more of a game. But in the end, Katherine loves herself above all else. My response; Katherine gave up her freedom for the brothers. She's been on the run, plotting, scheming living in fear for 500 years. She had a chance to be free and she gave it all up for the brothers. There was nothing for her to gain from that. It is no longer arguable that Katherine does not love the brothers. She does. "Katherine has two true loves. If she’ll really admit it to herself and open herself up to it, she’ll find that she truly loves both Salvatore men. Damon and Stefan are part of her history, creation and the fabric of everything she is." - Kevin Williamson PoohBear I don't think Katherine is capable of being in a relationship. She is all about herself and relationships are all about the give and take and the compromise. Katherine isn't capable of that. Damon wasn't either in the beginning of the series, but he's getting better at it and is still evolving. My response: If Damon is capable of it, why can't Katherine? Why can't Katherine be forgiven? Why can't Katherine evolve? Katherine has not been fully explored at present as a character. We do however have an idea of who Katherine is, based on the tiny glimpses. Her history is a vicious, brutal and emotionally/psychologically traumatic one. She's unhinged by it. Her biggest motive is survival. Protecting herself from any and all weaknesses, love being the biggest one. "I didn't let love get in the way" If Katherine would have the courage to let herself love, and let go of the severely traumatic events of her past, they could actually make each other incredibly happy. Katherine told Damon she never loved him. Damon's killed Elena's brother. If Damon can be forgiven for his crimes, so can Katherine. Everyone on the show seems to get a reprieve. Look at Klaroline. After that paring, anything goes. PoohBear: I don't agree. I think Katherine only cares about herself. Damon doesn't really care either way about Katherine. To him. Damon knows he can use Katherine to his advantage because they often have the same goals in mind. That's it. I am pretty positive that the only home Damon has is in Elena at this point. Damon will never love Katherine again. Can't say that I blame him. To put Katherine and Damon together again after all that she has done to him is an injustice to Damon's character in my opinion. Kat ruined Damon's life. I honestly don't know how anybody could forgive something like that. At this point I realized this person did not care about logic or fact and stopped replying. We were going around in circles and she still hadn't answered my question. Why do Damon and every other bad male character on the show get passes and Kat doesn't? This person was also a Klaroline shipper. Bad boys get away with it. Bad girl's die.
Help please? (12/20/2012)@VeevyTayt. The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo is actually quite literally on my to-read pile. I don't know why I haven't read it yet. I will now.