Supernatural Round Table: "Meta Fiction"

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How will the Supernatural story end? Does Metatron actually know?

Those were just some of the questions panelists Sean McKenna and Carissa Pavlica of TV Fanatic and Alice of The Winchester Family Business discussed on the latest Supernatural Round Table.

And what about that surprise special guest? Join in the discussion and let’s talk Supernatural Season 9 Episode 18!

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What was your favorite scene?

Alice: Gabriel! I loved all his scenes, but my favorite one was when he first visited Castiel in the motel room. That Casa Erotica stuff just doesn’t get old.  At least not when Gabriel is the star. I totally screamed when he was shown standing behind Castiel, asking a “brother” for some help. Real or not, it was the most exciting thing I’ve seen on this show in a while.

Sean: I have to agree with Alice on this one. Even when he was just the trickster (before we knew him as the angel Gabriel) he was an entertaining and exciting character. So to bring him back after he died in order to speak with Castiel in Metatron’s fantasy sequence was fantastic. There’s such a spark and energy that surrounds actor Richard Speight Jr. when playing the character that pretty much any form of Gabriel would be a welcome one.

Carissa: Overall, I thought this episode was a complete disappointment. The only scene I can say I really enjoyed was Cas seeing the "call me" girls on the television. Misha Collins plays those fish out of water scenes so very well.

What did you think of Gabriel’s return?

Alice: As you can tell from my prior answer, I’m absolutely flipping ecstatic! You know that “Hammer of the Gods” is my most loathed Supernatural episode ever? Yes, it was a trick by Metatron and Gabriel acted more like Metatron’s characterization of him than his real self, but the eyebrow raise when Castiel asked if he was still alive? He’s got me believing he’s out there somewhere! Where do angel souls go when they die? Then again, I’ve been in denial about Gabriel’s death since season five when they inexplicably decided to off him.

Sean: It was a fun callback to the character that unfortunately turned out to be all just a dream (or was it?) Like I said before, Gabriel is such a fun character and it was a true surprise when he first appeared in this episode. But is it a hint that he’s alive? Or is that just wishful thinking?

Carissa: It was sad. Metatron is a complete ass and I'm sick of him. He's not God and the sooner someone tips him out of power, the better. Playing with Cas by bringing back his friend was really cruel. Metatron is obviously a vengeful God.

Did Castiel gathering a flock mean he took Metatron’s deal?

Alice: Ooh, I hadn’t thought of that. I really, really want to believe he didn’t. I want to believe that he’s learned from his past mistakes and what happens when you take deals. I want him to remember Sam’s recent predicament with Gadreel. I want him to remember the last time he trusted Metatron the results were disastrous. If he did take the deal, I hope it’s because he plans to double cross. Otherwise, I’m choosing to believe he wants to go down swinging. 

Sean: I can only assume that Castiel has learned from his past and gathering the flock is meant to actually figure out a way to bring down Metatron. It’s tough to say if he took the deal, but even if he did, I think he’s going to pull a fast one on Metatron. There’s no way he would just turn on everyone like that.

Carissa: I don't think he gathered the flock. I think it just gathered itself, courtesy of Metatron. Cas is ready to deal with whatever he has to head on, however. I don't for one second think that Metatron will gaslight Castiel like he thinks. He missed something as simple as a tear in Castiel's coat -- Cas will be looking for every possible advantage to stay out of Met's "story."

Were you surprised Dean didn’t kill Gadreel, especially because he has the Mark of Cain?

Alice: No, because Dean hasn’t lost control yet. After all, it’s only episode 18. He wanted to though and eventually the urge is going to get too overwhelming. While he managed to overcome this time, that worried look of Sam’s in the car at the end of the episode said it all. Dean is a time bomb and he will go off. Soon. 

Sean: I would have been disappointed if he did. It seems the Mark of Cain is building in him, and something bad is bound to happen … say, in the finale? But it would have been lame to finally see Gadreel again after what felt like forever and then quickly off him? He’s kind of a big part of the season and I hope his end is a climactic one. I’ve just got a feeling Dean’s dark road is getting even darker.

Carissa: I am not 100% certain Gadreel can't be turned against Metatron and used to bring him down. He was once good and his whole desire to join Met was to get back that side of him. He fell for the lies and now he's even worse than he was before. Dean has been handling the Mark very well, considering. He's fighting it with every ounce of his being and it would be very cool if he didn't crack and succumb to its power but used it as he sees fit instead. Guess we'll see how it plays out!

Do you think Metatron actually knows the ending?

Alice: Just like with Michael and Lucifer, he thinks he knows the ending. He also acknowledged to Gadreel, “The by-product of having well drawn characters is they surprise you.” So I take that to mean that Sam and Dean will be unpredictable, just like they were when they stopped the apocalypse. The Mark of Cain has to play some part in this, right?  But will it all lead to the same result no matter what? Yeah, I’m stalling. I really don’t know the answer to that one.  How about Gabriel for the win!

Sean: Perhaps arrogance makes him think that? It’s too presumptuous of a statement especially when he was surprised by Sam and Dean capturing Gadreel. And like Alice said, both Michael and Lucifer thought they knew the ending and look how that turned out. Either way, I’m excited to see how it all comes together. Can you believe we’re headed to Season 10?!

Carissa: No. We know the ending. Anyone who tries to play God fails miserably. There is only one God and he hold the cards. Those who try to walk in his shoes are power hungry and will most likely head toward hell if they don't have good friends like Sam and Dean Winchester to help them back from the edge. Where are Met's friends? Exactly.

Sean McKenna was a TV Fanatic Staff Writer. He retired in May of 2017. Follow him on Twitter.

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Supernatural Season 9 Episode 18 Quotes

Bitch, please. You've been God more often than Dad has.


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