Whether or not you're a fan of the "real" S.H.I.E.L.D. storyline, it appears to be here to stay.
Ward and Agent 33 returned this week with a twisted agenda of their own, while Coulson locked Skye up in a safe house for everyone's sake.
Join TV Fanatics Allison Nichols, Kathleen Wiedel, Jim Garner, Hank Otero and the Helicarrier Podcast's Andy Behbakht as we discuss Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Season 2 Episode 14 in this week's round table.
What was your favorite moment/scene or line from this installment?
Allison: Hunter dealing with the heads of the "real" S.H.I.E.L.D. There was just so much sass. He called the Hufflepuffs. Lance Hunter is a gift and should be protected at all costs.
Kathleen: My favorite particular line of the episode came from Agent 33 to Grant Ward: "But you seem so well-adjusted!" Oh, the irony!
Andy: Don't know if I had a favorite line, but I did enjoy a lot of Hunter in this episode and that's big for me to say as I haven't really been his biggest fan this season.
Jim: I actually enjoyed Coulson and Skye together on the plane, it was very father-daughter like and showed how much each cares for the other.
Hank: I loved the references to the Avengers this week. Fitz telling Skye once she learns some control, she could have Avengers level powers. I thought it was funny that he mentioned Captain America, while Simmons compared her to the Hulk.
Now that we know more about the "real" S.H.I.E.L.D., how do you feel about Bobbi's and Mack's betrayal?
Allison: It still hurts. They do have a reason to want a change in regime, but is this the best way to go about it? S.H.I.E.L.D. is in ruins still, and it's unclear if it could survive another Hydra type reveal.
Kathleen: Here's the so-called "real" S.H.I.E.L.D., pontificating about the need for transparency and all the while they're sneaking around plotting to undermine Coulson. That hypocrisy doesn't sit well with me, especially for Bobbi. There's a reckoning coming very soon, and I really don't think that Coulson's going to be on the losing end of it.
Andy: I'm mixed, confused, angry, sad and all over the place with this whole arc. I'm not sure how to feel about it just yet because this isn't what I expected to see on this show with Mack and Bobbi having this big secret.
Jim: Jury is still out for me. I suspect they felt Fury (and in turn Coulson) had too many secrets, which is going to be interesting when the "real" SHIELD learns that Fury is a live and well.
Hank: Kathleen makes a great point, the "real" S.H.I.E.L.D. talks of Coulson's secrets, blah blah blah, yet lingers in the shadows like frakkin' HYDRA. I'm with Andy, I wasn't expecting this for Bobbi and Mack which makes it a total bummer. Not diggin' it at all.
Were you glad to see Ward back this week? Any guesses what their endgame is?
Allison: I was. I have missed his brand of crazy and sass. This episode was about him helping Agent 33 seemingly out of the goodness of his twisted heart. I didn't see it as being part of a grander scheme. He was helping her out by sharing the value of closure, which of course he got by murdering his family, but the closure was helpful for him.
Kathleen: Ah, Ward, how we missed your psycho-babble. I have no clue where they'll end up, but I hope it's entertaining.
Andy: Yes I was and you know what? I'm enjoying more and more for each episode he is in. He is complex, in a deliciously creepy way that makes me want to dig deeper into his skin and see what his plans are.
Jim: This version of Ward is both scary and charming. As for his end game, I got nooooooo idea any more, but I suspect Skye still plays a part.
Hank: I was absolutely thrilled that Ward was back. I have no idea what he and Agent 33 are up to, but it's got to be better than the "real" S.H.I.E.L.D.
Was dropping Skye off in the safe house the right move? Coulson seemed to question it himself.
Allison: No, because I think she would be better if she had someone there to help her. Skye is all by herself in that safe house, and it is up to her to try out different methods to see what works and what doesn't, and if she isn't motivated to try to understand her powers, then she won't get anywhere. Right now, she seems happy with the gloves.
Kathleen: I'm pretty sure Coulson screwed up, and he knows it. What consequences will come of this are yet to be seen, but one thing is clear to me: isolating Skye is a mistake on several levels. One of those levels being that the "real" S.H.I.E.L.D. now thinks Coulson is stocking up on super-humans.
Andy: I totally get why he would question it himself because he as well as all the other agents have no idea how to handle or help the Inhumans because it's such a new thing for them. I think all he knows right now is that he wants to make sure Skye is as stable as possible, without having to put her in a cage.
Jim: Yes, it was, out there she can start learning to control her powers without being worried about hurting anyone. I really hope they don't drag out the "oh woe is me, I'm different," too, much longer, it is already starting to get on my nerves.
Hank: While it appears to have been the right move as far as keeping everyone safe, Coulson knows deep down it was a bad move. The team was Skye's family, and now they've sent her away. I have a feeling once she meets Luke Mitchell's Inhuman Lincoln, things will fall into place. I'm hoping something positive comes from her relationship with Lincoln, she deserves a break.
Will Hunter make it back to the bus and blow the "real S.H.I.E.L.D." wide open?
Allison: I don't know if his immediate instinct will be to tell everyone, but he has a ways until he gets to shore, so he has some time to think things over. Right now, he seems to be more emotionally hurt by what Bobbi and Mack did. I do think that Hunter will try to warn Coulson and the team. He enjoyed being a part of that team, and hopefully he still wants to be a part of it.
Kathleen: I'm not sure what Hunter will do. I think that Hunter finally found something worth believing in with Coulson's team, and Bobbi's betrayal certainly hurts. The "real" S.H.I.E.L.D. certainly seems to think that he'll call Coulson at his first opportunity, but his feelings are probably more complicated than that. We shall see.
Andy: Yes, but with a twist and it won't be easy, that's what I think will happen.
Jim: Basic math says that Bobbi is going to make it back to the bus before he even gets out of the ocean. However, we can hope that he is able to get a warning to Coulson early.
Hank: I do think he'll share the information about the "real" S.H.I.E.L.D. with Coulson. Despite all his secrets, the director has been pretty straight forward with Hunter from day one. Bobbi, on the other hand, has a history of lying and manipulating. Seems to me, he's already made his choice.
NOTE: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Season 2 Episode 15 is titled "One Door Closes" and airs on Tuesday, March 31.