Supernatural Round Table: Heavenly Help

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The Bobbys are surly. I repeat, the Bobbys are surly.

That’s right, Sam and Dean’s close friend and father figure, Bobby Singer, was back on Supernatural to help out with a mission in Heaven crucial to getting some Mark of Cain information.

And it seems that TV Fanatic staff writers Narsimha Chintaluri, Carla Day, and Sean McKenna and The Winchester Family Business’ Alice Jester were far from surly when chatting about Supernatural Season 10 Episode 17.

So take a break from pool hustling the Abercrombie rejects and join in the latest Supernatural Round Table!

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What was your favorite scene or quote?

Alice: Wow, there were so many good ones, it’s hard to choose. Can I just say all of them and call it a day? Fine. It would be Bobby freeing all the Robert Singers and reuniting with Castiel in Heaven. I always loved those two working together, and it’s about time Castiel got a good plot.  Door 42!  Kudos to them for remembering the answer to everything. 

Honorable mention though goes to Oliver the psychic. He was hilarious. He had Sam, aka “the hippie”, pegged, but when a mind reading atheist meets an angel, we have the premise for one damn good buddy comedy. 

Narsimha: Although everything Alice mentioned was great as well, I personally loved the scene with Dean and Crowley talking about what "family" means, and sharing their respective favorite drinks together again. I don't even know if it's the human blood anymore -- maybe demons are just like all other sentient beings… conditioned to live and think a certain way, but change is still possible. Maybe ol' Crowley is just softening up. I, for one, have no complaints that he isn't sending hellhounds after our heroes every second of every day.

Carla: For Bobby, it was just seeing him again and hearing the Bobby-isms. It was a mistake to kill him off. The show just hasn't been the same since he's been gone. The other moment I really enjoyed was the heart-to-heart between Dean and Crowley. Their relationship has come a long way since the beginning. I hope Crowley doesn't turn on the Winchester brothers, though it would make for a story.

Sean: I have to agree with you all. There were just so many good moments during this episode. I definitely enjoyed Bobby’s return. I’ll go with Sam and Castiel pulling a fast one on Metatron and tipping the scales of leverage. Learn it. Live it. Love it.

Did you enjoy the return of Bobby?

Alice: Yes, yes, yes, and hell yes! I’ve constantly said over the last three years I’ll never, never, ever, ever, never, ever, never forgive them for killing off Bobby. His return was the breath of fresh air this show desperately needs right now. Plus he’s surly! No one does surly better, except maybe hundreds of other Bobby Singers on a Heaven jailbreak. That is one freaky bunch when put together. They really need to figure out a way to bring Bobby back for good.

Narsimha: Of course I did, but I think it could've been done better. His death was one of the most emotional moments of the show for me, and it was one of the best Supernatural episodes to date. A lot of this episode did seem a bit forced, including the letter at the end.

Carla: I enjoyed the return of Bobby, but overall it was lacking for me since he never got to be with the boys. While the letter was a nice touch and sentimental, it wasn't enough for me. I was utterly disappointed that when Castiel landed in the park with Metatron that Bobby wasn't with them. I didn't expect Bobby to come back to Earth, though it would have been a pleasant surprise.

Sean: I know I talked with Robert Singer about Bobby’s return, and I was pleased with getting to see him again on the show. It was short, but a solid return. I did think maybe he might come back to Earth with Castiel, but now I’m wondering what the angels are going to do to him...

Were you surprised Metatron knows where Castiel’s grace is but doesn’t know how to get rid of the Mark?

Alice: No. I think he’s lying about the grace too. The guy is a master villain who lives for screwing over people through manipulation. What surprised me the most is how easy it was to cut the grace out of Metatron and turn him human. Couldn’t that have happened when they had him captured earlier in the season in the MOL bunker? Saved themselves a lot of trouble in staging this jailbreak?

But yeah, then we wouldn’t have gotten to see Bobby again and that would have sucked. 

Narsimha: Yeah I gotta agree with Alice, I feel like he's just a pathological liar, I mean, storyteller.

Carla: I don't believe anything that Metatron says. He may well know how to get rid of the Mark and not know where Cas' grace is located. Until his information is validated, I wouldn't believe a word that comes out of his mouth.

Sean: OK, so maybe I was thinking Metatron was being honest about Castiel’s grace because he could have been killed by Sam. But now you all are making me rethink that. When has he really not been a liar? I’m worried about Castiel being alone with him.

What will Rowena and Crowley do now that they aren't together?

Alice: This is me with my fingers crossed, but hopefully Crowley goes back to the fearsome King of Hell he’s supposed to be, umbrella drinks and all. Rowena will stop being annoying and will focus her attention of spreading real evil instead of chewing up valuable scenery by trying to manipulate her mopey son. Gee, it took 17 episodes for Crowley to get out of his funk?

Narsimha: I hope Rowena tries coming back at Crowley only to be killed by Dean or something, and Crowley snaps out of his daze. I'd still like for him to kind of be on the side of our heroes though -- not friends, per say, but not mortal enemies either.

Carla: Can we never see Rowena again? Please?!? Pretty please?!? She's been an annoyance since she first arrived. If I was someone who would fast-forward through characters and scenes I don't like, it would be hers. I don't think I've disliked any character introduction as much as hers. With Rowena gone, I'd like to see Crowley move on and forget she ever existed.

Sean: Rowena is bound to be back, but I’m not so sure it’ll have the effect the season will want it to. I’d love for Crowley to get back to being that scary evil King of Hell, and hopefully him getting rid of his mother will do that. But I agree. It only took 17 episodes before she got the boot?

What did you think of Bobby's letter to Sam?   

Alice: I melted. I admit it. It gave me all those warm fuzzies that made me fall in love with this show in the first place. It was a very welcome and well timed reminder. If anyone needed a piece of sound, fatherly advice, it’s Sam. He’s so consumed and broken over helping Dean right now and he’s already headed on that path of recklessness. That single man tear symbolized just how alone and scared he is right now  I still say it’s Sam who’s being setup for a fall, not Dean. So if he does fall, his last words better be, “If I only listened to Bobby.” 

Narsimha: I think it would've impacted me more if they hadn't been so haphazard with Dean's troubles with the Mark up until now. And I was already upset about Bobby's return to the show being so brief, so I thought the letter felt kind of shoehorned into the episode. I agree that it's the fatherly reminder that Sam needed though.

Carla: It was touching and as always Bobby knows what to say and how to say it to get through to the boys. Whether Sam takes Bobby's words to heart, we'll see. Overall, it wasn't enough for me.

Sean: I liked it because it felt so true to Bobby, and I hope Sam listens and speaks with Dean. It was a good way to end the hour, but I still wish that we had a bit more time with Bobby during the episode as well. Though the reading of the letter over everyone in their respective places at the end really is letting us know we are headed into the final episodes. Let’s hope it’s a great finish!

Sean McKenna was a TV Fanatic Staff Writer. He retired in May of 2017. Follow him on Twitter.

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