Josh: I don't think it's unreasonably macho for the White House to be aggressive in preserving democracy.
Mandy: Let me tell you something, ultimately, it is not the nuts that are the greatest threat to democracy, as history has shown us over and over and over again. The greatest threat to democracy is the unbridled power of the state over its citizens. Which, by the way, that power is always unleashed in the name of preservation.
Josh: This is not abstract, Mandy. This is not a theoretical problem. The FBI says, Come out with your hands up," you come out with your hands up -- at which point you are free to avail yourself of the entire justice system.
