Chuck: Are you kidding? Lanford, in those days, a black man running a construction company; it wasn’t going to happen. I couldn’t get a lumber yard to give me credit. I couldn’t get a loan from a bank, and there were plenty of customers who wouldn’t trust me with their business.
Dan: You never talked to me about this.
Chuck: Come on, man. You’ve been in the world. Even if I told you, you don’t live it. You wouldn’t understand.