Fred: Hey, you remember when you told her you were going to transition?
Kate: Yeah, of course I remember.
Fred: Right. And that day when you told us, I just… Whoa, I just couldn’t take it all in, you know? Then your mom, she made it crystal clear that if I had any objections, then they were my problems, not yours.
Kate: And did you?
Fred: To be honest, yeah. Yeah, I was afraid. I didn’t want you to suffer.