Matt: Did you speak to her, Fisk's mother?
Karen: Yeah... she's not all there, but Matt, what she said about Fisk... he killed his father... when he was 12. Bashed his head in with a hammer, and then she helped him cover it up.
Matt: Well, he was a minor. It's not gonna be enough.
Karen: To put him in jail, no. But it doesn't line up with everything that Fisk has been saying.