I wonder is Alec the twins father and Rebecca knows this and is playing her own game to bring down Alec. Rebecca being their mother seems too obvious.I still think back to the episode where Alec warns Thayer not to go near Sutton ie a relationship,which always though odd.
Xoxodanielle Rank: Regular Character
February 22nd, 2012 7:00 AM
course i posted my incomplete comment, whatever. Team Emma ftw
Xoxodanielle Rank: Regular Character
February 22nd, 2012 6:59 AM
i cant stand ethan for cheating on emma so fast. just proves guys love witches with a b and he was.projecting his feelings for sutton onto.her twin. it makes their relationship a joke especially since he SLEPT with Sutton and he knows how important that is to Emma. Frankly I cant root for Thayer and Emma because he fell for Sutton first too.
ugh typos, sorry about that, i'm via mobile.
As for "stealing" Ethan away, Emma never did it to hurt Sutton and she had genuine feelings for
cocogurl
February 22nd, 2012 12:55 AM
Sutton's just an awful human being period. I don't care that technically Emma "stole" Ethan first. The difference between these two girls is that even though it wasn't right, deep down, Emma isn't an evil, malicious person. Sutton is cruel to her parents, her sister, her friends. Had Thayer trailing behind her like a puppy while she slummed it with Ethan and let's be honest, she's been using Emma since they met. I don't think she had any real intention of having Emma becoming a permanent part of her life. No one is saying that Emma's completely innocent, but she isn't evil either.
I'm sorry, but no amount of "But Emma did this" would be enough to excuse Sutton's awful behavior.
Persiancat
February 21st, 2012 10:04 PM
I just found a website that shows all old episodes online. When you watch the older episodes before the holiday break which ended with Sutton driving into the lake, there were so many story lines going on like Alec being responsible for Derek stealing Sutton's laptop and planting it on Ethan, Alec breaking into Thayer's apartment, following him and Sutton, all information that proved Annie Hobbs was the birth mother, and everything seemed to add up until that point. But since the new episodes started in January it seems like they are contradicting and ignoring alot of those clues, almost like watching a different show. Maybe that is why abc family does not show them on its own website anymore because then everyone will remember those episodes and will be unhappy with the current direction of the show. I like Rebecca's character but it really was unnecessary and changed the whole storyline.
nicole
February 21st, 2012 8:43 PM
I HATEEEEEEEEEEEEEE SUTTON!!!!!
Persiancat
February 21st, 2012 6:40 PM
I think when Alec called Rebecca and told her he couldn't make the date, she followed him and snapped that picture with her phone. I think Rebecca arranged for that note to be delivered to her in front of Alec and faked getting a text, acting all weird, knowing Alec would ask her what is going on and then she showed him the picture pretending it was sent by a text. My theory is that it was Rebecca who sent that creepy note to Emma, not to scare her but to warn her since she knew Alec was after her. You all need to remember that the box that Emma got had a piece of the dress that Sutton was wearing when her car went into the lake, so there is no way Alec or Thayer could have sent that message. I think Annie Hobbs called Rebecca after she saved Sutton from the lake (we know from their encounter in the hospital that they know each other)and Rebecca took care of the rest. It is obvious Rebecca is back for revenge from Ted and Alec, but I still don't think she is the twin's mother.
Persiancat
February 21st, 2012 6:31 PM
In response to Kat's comment, Annie Hobbs didn't kidnap Emma from the hospital. If you watch the old episodes, Emma was adopted by a family but then Annie Hobbs showed up and claimed to be the birth mother and showed the proper ID and took Emma. And later on sent a picture of her and Emma to the couple which they gave to Sutton to help her find her birth mother. What I still don't get with that is if Annie Hobbs is not the birth mother how did she know the name of the woman they had put on the birth certificate to get a fake ID with that name? and how did she know where to find the family that had adopted Emma? And I don't understand Alec's involvement. He is the one who told Annie Hobbs that Emma had died in the fire and he has been paying Annie Hobbs expense at the mental hospital all these years. So what's the story there?
Tanner1511 Rank: Recurring Character
February 21st, 2012 3:43 PM
ps. Ethan not being able to tell about twins is really not that hard to understand. They are identical and Sutton is manipulative and understands how Emma would act so that does not surprise me. What surprises me is that he knows how important Emma losing her virginity is to her so that he would take that at face value. Why would he not question that? Especially since he knows how loyal Emma has been to him, Sutton and everyone else.
Tanner1511 Rank: Recurring Character
February 21st, 2012 3:43 PM
Emma technically did "take" Ethan (did they kiss before Ethan and Sutton broke up, like kiss as a couple not when he found out she was not Sutton, id remember) but Ethan broke up with Sutton before he got together with Emma. Therefore Emma did nothing wrong (except a kiss) because Ethan choose her over Sutton.
Sutton may deserve her life back bec it is hers but that does not mean she deserves "her " boyfriend back or "her" friends when she has treated them like CRAP! Sutton is way to entitled and instead of earning ppls respect, love, friendship... she has to earn that!
I agree that Sutton should be back in her house and should actually be Sutton for the trial since she was at the scene but she does not deserve anything else until she earns it!
cont.
Cam
February 21st, 2012 2:43 PM
What is the song that plays after the theme song while Ethan is getting his mugshot, etc.?
Wes
February 21st, 2012 2:41 PM
1) Why the FBI was involved: Indian reservations are federal jurisdictions. The FBI would have to arrest Ethan there, then remand him to Phoenix who had initiated the arrest warrant. The FBI would only do that for Felony level crimes (ie murder).
2) I am kinda pissed that Ethan did not see through Sutton.
3) Sutton is digging her own hole. She lost Mads as a friend, She lost Ethan as a Boyfriend, She pushed Thayer away, She pisses on her adoptive parents affection, She keeps Laural at arms length. Emma is a just sweet and loyal and all these people are attracted by that. Everyone that finds the out the truth return that loyalty and respect. Sutton needs to stop being bitter and figure out that if she wants her life back, she will need to make good with Emma, because when this all blows up, it'll be Emma that they all rally to and protect, and Sutton will find herself out in the cold with only herself to blame. Her character's sense of entitlement is shocking.
rihanna
February 21st, 2012 2:00 PM
Quina i totally agree with you, Emma isn't innocent and she acts all good when she initially stole Ethan from Sutton when they were still together, yes she is over the top however it is her life and she did not invite Emma there in the first place, she does deserve her own life, friends and boyfriend back
quina
February 21st, 2012 1:03 PM
Now that sutton is back she needs to stay at HER house emma can go stay some where else plus why is every1 mad emma stole sutton bf 1st
Sandrien
February 21st, 2012 12:29 PM
@ faithfulmoments: Title of the show's opening theme is Gun For A Tongue by Butterfly Boucher.
faithfulmoments
February 21st, 2012 10:04 AM
Is there any way to find out who sings the song or the name of the song in the very beginning of the episode?! Any help would be much appreciated...thanks!
S;)
February 21st, 2012 9:48 AM
Ethan is suppose to be in love with Emma so much ya right he cannot even tell them apart. Also for the fact he would actually believe Emma lost her virginity to Thayer? That's a little much sutton is a bitch!
kat
February 21st, 2012 9:45 AM
I am totally on board with the idea that Rebecca is the twins' mother, but my question is this...while Rebecca is probably aware she gave birth to twins (though, who knows), what did she think happened to each girl? I mean, Emma was kidnapped by Annie Hobbs in the hospital and it sounds like she was raised by Annie for almost three years. Then Annie thought Emma died in the fire, right? So, does Rebecca suspect that the girl she speaks to is anyone other than Sutton or that there is another girl out there? I suspect not because it would seem to me, she was probably in the best position to have found and claimed Emma if she knew about her.
stella
February 21st, 2012 9:21 AM
In the promo for the next episode, is Ethan kissing Emma or Sutton? I just can't stand Ethan with Sutton anymore and although he said he doesn't feel anything for Sutton, I think that's just a lie.
stella
February 21st, 2012 9:19 AM
How STUPID is Ethan that he doesn't even realize he's talking to SUTTON and not to Emma? That's the second time now. And Emma would never sleep with Thayer while waiting for Ethan, God that guy is just so stupid. If anybody is a 100% loyal, it is Emma. I really wanted to yell at the TV, I can't believe this. Sutton is the biggest bitch ever. Why can't she just get over the fact that there is a reason everybody loves Emma more than her? Sure, Emma took Ethan away from Sutton but if Sutton hadn't been such a horrible person, it wouldn't have been so easy to "steal" anything from Sutton. I hate Sutton. And why is Thayer still so nice to Sutton? I just don't get it. I'd love to see Emma get over this Ethan thing and fall in love with Thayer after that. They would be so great together.
I have to say I'm starting to like Rebecca. She was great in this episode and maybe she is the mother of the twins after all.
fortyseven Rank: Regular Character
February 21st, 2012 4:04 AM
Yeah, the legal stuff seemed like an afterthought. Alec could have got the case or it wasn't a federal case, who knows? I think I love Rebecca. Nice that Dan gets more plot. Of course, neither twin is perfect but no one can argue that Emma isn't nicer. Emma had a slip up with Dan-maybe Dan's lady friend will get suspicious. If Rebecca isn't the mother, she'll probably be suspicious too. So Ted and Rebecca as the parents?
theblakeness Rank: Guest Star
February 21st, 2012 1:34 AM
Sutton oh Sutton... she is a person you love to hate. It is like the good twin and evil twin with these two.
Tanner1511 Rank: Recurring Character
February 21st, 2012 12:57 AM
I caught that pause but didnt catch on that she might have said "mother"
This episode just confirmed to me even more that SUTTON IS A BITCH!!!!! Really thats your sister... you share blood... why??? I get that you "love" Ethan but still the way you are acting is as if you do not want a sister. Why contact her if you didnt want her around.
lggg
February 21st, 2012 12:43 AM
Also I don't know if anyone noticed but Rebecca said to Emma "a older person knows best" before she said older person it seems like she wanted to say mother....
Emma: Did you even look at us before you let Alec take us away?
February 22nd, 2012 1:45 PM
SUTTON IS A BITCH!!!!!!!
hate herrrrrrrrrr
Rank: Extra
February 22nd, 2012 9:39 AM
I wonder is Alec the twins father and Rebecca knows this and is playing her own game to bring down Alec. Rebecca being their mother seems too obvious.I still think back to the episode where Alec warns Thayer not to go near Sutton ie a relationship,which always though odd.
Rank: Regular Character
February 22nd, 2012 7:00 AM
course i posted my incomplete comment, whatever. Team Emma ftw
Rank: Regular Character
February 22nd, 2012 6:59 AM
i cant stand ethan for cheating on emma so fast. just proves guys love witches with a b and he was.projecting his feelings for sutton onto.her twin. it makes their relationship a joke especially since he SLEPT with Sutton and he knows how important that is to Emma. Frankly I cant root for Thayer and Emma because he fell for Sutton first too.
ugh typos, sorry about that, i'm via mobile.
As for "stealing" Ethan away, Emma never did it to hurt Sutton and she had genuine feelings for
February 22nd, 2012 12:55 AM
Sutton's just an awful human being period. I don't care that technically Emma "stole" Ethan first. The difference between these two girls is that even though it wasn't right, deep down, Emma isn't an evil, malicious person. Sutton is cruel to her parents, her sister, her friends. Had Thayer trailing behind her like a puppy while she slummed it with Ethan and let's be honest, she's been using Emma since they met. I don't think she had any real intention of having Emma becoming a permanent part of her life. No one is saying that Emma's completely innocent, but she isn't evil either.
I'm sorry, but no amount of "But Emma did this" would be enough to excuse Sutton's awful behavior.
February 21st, 2012 10:04 PM
I just found a website that shows all old episodes online. When you watch the older episodes before the holiday break which ended with Sutton driving into the lake, there were so many story lines going on like Alec being responsible for Derek stealing Sutton's laptop and planting it on Ethan, Alec breaking into Thayer's apartment, following him and Sutton, all information that proved Annie Hobbs was the birth mother, and everything seemed to add up until that point. But since the new episodes started in January it seems like they are contradicting and ignoring alot of those clues, almost like watching a different show. Maybe that is why abc family does not show them on its own website anymore because then everyone will remember those episodes and will be unhappy with the current direction of the show. I like Rebecca's character but it really was unnecessary and changed the whole storyline.
February 21st, 2012 8:43 PM
I HATEEEEEEEEEEEEEE SUTTON!!!!!
February 21st, 2012 6:40 PM
I think when Alec called Rebecca and told her he couldn't make the date, she followed him and snapped that picture with her phone. I think Rebecca arranged for that note to be delivered to her in front of Alec and faked getting a text, acting all weird, knowing Alec would ask her what is going on and then she showed him the picture pretending it was sent by a text. My theory is that it was Rebecca who sent that creepy note to Emma, not to scare her but to warn her since she knew Alec was after her. You all need to remember that the box that Emma got had a piece of the dress that Sutton was wearing when her car went into the lake, so there is no way Alec or Thayer could have sent that message. I think Annie Hobbs called Rebecca after she saved Sutton from the lake (we know from their encounter in the hospital that they know each other)and Rebecca took care of the rest. It is obvious Rebecca is back for revenge from Ted and Alec, but I still don't think she is the twin's mother.
February 21st, 2012 6:31 PM
In response to Kat's comment, Annie Hobbs didn't kidnap Emma from the hospital. If you watch the old episodes, Emma was adopted by a family but then Annie Hobbs showed up and claimed to be the birth mother and showed the proper ID and took Emma. And later on sent a picture of her and Emma to the couple which they gave to Sutton to help her find her birth mother. What I still don't get with that is if Annie Hobbs is not the birth mother how did she know the name of the woman they had put on the birth certificate to get a fake ID with that name? and how did she know where to find the family that had adopted Emma? And I don't understand Alec's involvement. He is the one who told Annie Hobbs that Emma had died in the fire and he has been paying Annie Hobbs expense at the mental hospital all these years. So what's the story there?
Rank: Recurring Character
February 21st, 2012 3:43 PM
ps. Ethan not being able to tell about twins is really not that hard to understand. They are identical and Sutton is manipulative and understands how Emma would act so that does not surprise me. What surprises me is that he knows how important Emma losing her virginity is to her so that he would take that at face value. Why would he not question that? Especially since he knows how loyal Emma has been to him, Sutton and everyone else.
Rank: Recurring Character
February 21st, 2012 3:43 PM
Emma technically did "take" Ethan (did they kiss before Ethan and Sutton broke up, like kiss as a couple not when he found out she was not Sutton, id remember) but Ethan broke up with Sutton before he got together with Emma. Therefore Emma did nothing wrong (except a kiss) because Ethan choose her over Sutton.
Sutton may deserve her life back bec it is hers but that does not mean she deserves "her " boyfriend back or "her" friends when she has treated them like CRAP! Sutton is way to entitled and instead of earning ppls respect, love, friendship... she has to earn that!
I agree that Sutton should be back in her house and should actually be Sutton for the trial since she was at the scene but she does not deserve anything else until she earns it!
cont.
February 21st, 2012 2:43 PM
What is the song that plays after the theme song while Ethan is getting his mugshot, etc.?
February 21st, 2012 2:41 PM
1) Why the FBI was involved: Indian reservations are federal jurisdictions. The FBI would have to arrest Ethan there, then remand him to Phoenix who had initiated the arrest warrant. The FBI would only do that for Felony level crimes (ie murder).
2) I am kinda pissed that Ethan did not see through Sutton.
3) Sutton is digging her own hole. She lost Mads as a friend, She lost Ethan as a Boyfriend, She pushed Thayer away, She pisses on her adoptive parents affection, She keeps Laural at arms length. Emma is a just sweet and loyal and all these people are attracted by that. Everyone that finds the out the truth return that loyalty and respect. Sutton needs to stop being bitter and figure out that if she wants her life back, she will need to make good with Emma, because when this all blows up, it'll be Emma that they all rally to and protect, and Sutton will find herself out in the cold with only herself to blame. Her character's sense of entitlement is shocking.
February 21st, 2012 2:00 PM
Quina i totally agree with you, Emma isn't innocent and she acts all good when she initially stole Ethan from Sutton when they were still together, yes she is over the top however it is her life and she did not invite Emma there in the first place, she does deserve her own life, friends and boyfriend back
February 21st, 2012 1:03 PM
Now that sutton is back she needs to stay at HER house emma can go stay some where else plus why is every1 mad emma stole sutton bf 1st
February 21st, 2012 12:29 PM
@ faithfulmoments: Title of the show's opening theme is Gun For A Tongue by Butterfly Boucher.
February 21st, 2012 10:04 AM
Is there any way to find out who sings the song or the name of the song in the very beginning of the episode?! Any help would be much appreciated...thanks!
February 21st, 2012 9:48 AM
Ethan is suppose to be in love with Emma so much ya right he cannot even tell them apart. Also for the fact he would actually believe Emma lost her virginity to Thayer? That's a little much sutton is a bitch!
February 21st, 2012 9:45 AM
I am totally on board with the idea that Rebecca is the twins' mother, but my question is this...while Rebecca is probably aware she gave birth to twins (though, who knows), what did she think happened to each girl? I mean, Emma was kidnapped by Annie Hobbs in the hospital and it sounds like she was raised by Annie for almost three years. Then Annie thought Emma died in the fire, right? So, does Rebecca suspect that the girl she speaks to is anyone other than Sutton or that there is another girl out there? I suspect not because it would seem to me, she was probably in the best position to have found and claimed Emma if she knew about her.
February 21st, 2012 9:21 AM
In the promo for the next episode, is Ethan kissing Emma or Sutton? I just can't stand Ethan with Sutton anymore and although he said he doesn't feel anything for Sutton, I think that's just a lie.
February 21st, 2012 9:19 AM
How STUPID is Ethan that he doesn't even realize he's talking to SUTTON and not to Emma? That's the second time now. And Emma would never sleep with Thayer while waiting for Ethan, God that guy is just so stupid. If anybody is a 100% loyal, it is Emma. I really wanted to yell at the TV, I can't believe this. Sutton is the biggest bitch ever. Why can't she just get over the fact that there is a reason everybody loves Emma more than her? Sure, Emma took Ethan away from Sutton but if Sutton hadn't been such a horrible person, it wouldn't have been so easy to "steal" anything from Sutton. I hate Sutton. And why is Thayer still so nice to Sutton? I just don't get it. I'd love to see Emma get over this Ethan thing and fall in love with Thayer after that. They would be so great together.
I have to say I'm starting to like Rebecca. She was great in this episode and maybe she is the mother of the twins after all.
Rank: Regular Character
February 21st, 2012 4:04 AM
Yeah, the legal stuff seemed like an afterthought. Alec could have got the case or it wasn't a federal case, who knows? I think I love Rebecca. Nice that Dan gets more plot. Of course, neither twin is perfect but no one can argue that Emma isn't nicer. Emma had a slip up with Dan-maybe Dan's lady friend will get suspicious. If Rebecca isn't the mother, she'll probably be suspicious too. So Ted and Rebecca as the parents?
Rank: Guest Star
February 21st, 2012 1:34 AM
Sutton oh Sutton... she is a person you love to hate. It is like the good twin and evil twin with these two.
Rank: Recurring Character
February 21st, 2012 12:57 AM
I caught that pause but didnt catch on that she might have said "mother"
This episode just confirmed to me even more that SUTTON IS A BITCH!!!!! Really thats your sister... you share blood... why??? I get that you "love" Ethan but still the way you are acting is as if you do not want a sister. Why contact her if you didnt want her around.
February 21st, 2012 12:43 AM
Also I don't know if anyone noticed but Rebecca said to Emma "a older person knows best" before she said older person it seems like she wanted to say mother....