Fringe Review: Haven't We Been Here Before? Comments (Page 2)
68 Comments
Bob
November 10th, 2012 7:49 PM
I totally disagree with you review! Patience! Patience! Stop trying to rush things. All will be revealed in good time! Let the tension continue to build! Thank goodness the show has 2 very talented writers who are doing a fabulous. I thought this was was one of the best episodes of the series 5 out of 5 ... the hour flew by. And John Noble continues to amaze me as an actor - yet another superb job! Iloved his final scene with Peter!
Lucy
November 10th, 2012 6:53 PM
I think from the 5-8, the plot is back to Olivia, I hope!
Carissa Pavlica Rank: Staff Member
November 10th, 2012 5:57 PM
@Valerie Because there isn't another chance for them to be together, which the fans have been anxiously awaiting for four seasons. Maybe you didn't want them as a team. I did, and I'm crushed.
sarah
November 10th, 2012 5:41 PM
i loved this episode. Peter was a badass, so what's not to like
Lucy
November 10th, 2012 5:35 PM
@geaoge LOL!
joanna
November 10th, 2012 5:19 PM
Maybe that child is September
geaoge
November 10th, 2012 5:03 PM
to lucy:
Why don't you start complaining and maybe whyman start writing on your favor.
i know you can do this, because you troll all the time.
Arent you that one and only crazy anna torv fan, who post the same shit over and over on hitfix, who hangs on those justjared boards. You are the one on those justjared board arent you, stalking the diane kruger and joshua jackson post?
I'm on to you.
valerie
November 10th, 2012 4:58 PM
@ Carissa Pavlica
with all respect, but we did see olivia fighting on her own all the previous seasons before. BEEN THERE DONE THAT= olivia fighting on her own.
But we never got to see peter do it alone.
now, why is it when olivia was fighting on her own, nobody, including you were saying: okay, enough with that. We want to see her fight with peter and not alone.
There was none of that. But the moment peter start doing things on his own, then you want equal things happening to olivia and peter.
sorry, this sound too hypocrite.....
Lucy
November 10th, 2012 4:35 PM
wyman heard all the complaints of Patty and he decided to write the season in his honor
Carissa Pavlica Rank: Staff Member
November 10th, 2012 4:09 PM
FYI - by writing what I did I was not trying to divide you all into Josh v Anna camps. I love them both. I was hoping for a final season where they were finally together. As a team. We spend four seasons where they fought to get there, now let's see what they can do as true partners. Instead we have Peter fighting alone, as we've watched Olivia do so many times before. Been there, done that. It's not a dig against Jackson, it's against the story being told. Four characters left on the canvas. They'd accomplish a lot more counting on each other than working in private and telling lies. They can all act, they just don't have the material!
allie701 Rank: Guest Star
November 10th, 2012 4:09 PM
Could someone please tell me how Observers reproduce since there apparently are no females in fedoras.
geaoge
November 10th, 2012 3:21 PM
@Olivia Dunham
i think that anna torv is back to her wooden acting from season 1&2.
But for me, she was always THE example for wooden acting.
I think that Joshua jackson leads the way on those romantic scenes between peter and olivia. Joshua is the one who shows emotions, but anna just stands there and lets joshua take the lead.
For me anna torv always had a limited range as an actress on fringe. When she plays olivia, she only shows one emotion: sad. And when she played fauxlivia: happy. Kinda boring!
Jimi Vall Peterson
November 10th, 2012 2:42 PM
Also, I can't say I appreciate all of the mindless shooting/killing that has been going on this season. Nor do I like the fact that the observers are being presented as such completely one-sided villains!
Jimi Vall Peterson
November 10th, 2012 2:38 PM
I agree with most of what you are saying, especially when it comes to Olivia. However, in general I think this was a really good episode and I haven't lost my hope for the rest of the season yet!
Olivia Dunham
November 10th, 2012 2:37 PM
Peter has had an active storyline in season 2 and season 3 and season 4, I do not like how they made Olivia the victim (horrible end S4) and the girl.
Peter with 2 guns and being the sharpshooter and the bomb man and the only technician and the only one doing everything is ridiculous.
Olivia had her gun , FBI, and her ability when to save Peter, she was normal intelligent, that was it,
Josh Jackson is the example of wooden acting,
Anna Torv is the example of how to express with your face in multiple ways different set of emotions around one storyline. She really is doing all the work in this Olivia/Peter part.
Tanya
November 10th, 2012 2:33 PM
Well I think that the writers are doing what they said they wanted to do which is to give the fans what they wanted last season by making Peter into an observer. Sure they still have a lot to explain about what is happening this season like why did the observers took over the planet after years of just watching and we still don't know how their abilities really work and I agree Peter should have shown some signs that he may have been even a little affected by the tech after putting it into the back of his neck or even shown some signs of discomfort by it.
The thing is pleasing the fans is one thing but at the same time they can't just make certain things happen in an episode and not expect us to question it. I don't mind the tape thing to be honest with u but I do have to wonder just how good the loyalist are at their jobs or how accurate the observers abilities are. Maybe the observers aren't as perfect as we all thought they were. Perhaps their abilities is really limited which is
Olivia Dunham
November 10th, 2012 2:24 PM
To Sam:
Olivia Dunham was the FBI agent in season 1 and 2, that was her role and gobetween for Walter and Peter.
All the writing went to Walter and Peter, Olivia was being called boring, I love the Olivia from the beginning,
but the real writing for her was Over There the first half of season 3, strangely enough after J.Jackson went to the emdia, Olivia was reduced to his girlfriend.
We had plenty of storylines for Walter and Peter about their past and relationships,
we never had Olivia dealing with her childhood or abuse,
that is IMO not writing for a character.
And most of the lines Olivia has gotten since endseason 3 were around Peter,
jeremy
November 10th, 2012 2:05 PM
I think this season Josh is going to kill it big time. He’s a great actor, though he hasn’t been able to shine among the others because of his “normal” roll. He was awesome the other day.
geaoge
November 10th, 2012 12:57 PM
pffffffffffff, OMG there are even fans who complain about the fact that peter didnt let olivia leave the pocket universe first, he left her behind.
REALLY????????
What's next? oh yes, how about that scene were peter threw his back at olivia! What an asshole, right?!!LOL
How old are the majority of the anna torv fans, is what i ask my self all the time!
Maybe they are sexually, frustrated teenage girls/feminist. They just hate it when olivia gets it on with a man.
ben
November 10th, 2012 12:45 PM
Joshua is doing a great job juggling Peter's three A's - agony, anger, and arrogance, and it's great to see him with something meaty to do. He's nailing it.
valerie
November 10th, 2012 12:20 PM
@ sam
totally agree with you.
geaoge
November 10th, 2012 12:19 PM
@juli
funny, because I never bought anna torv as an actress and I'm not buying it now.
annatorvfan
November 10th, 2012 12:17 PM
Just so everyone knows, these comments against Joshua/peter fans are all written by the same person who just keeps changing her name. She would probably murder Jackson if she ever saw him in real, that's how much she hates him. Don't take her seriously.
But to be honest: we, the anna torv fans, are jealous, because we don't like the peter arc, just because we want to see olivia central. We are a very selfish and hypocrite fanbase.
if you want more about the peter/joshua bashing, go to annatorvbloggers. oops, i mean fringebloggers
Sam
November 10th, 2012 11:57 AM
This season is showing Torv's/Olivia's fans true colors more than ever. At least some of them. I remember when fans wanted Peter to be part of the story, to be as front and center as Walter and Olivia and the response they got was "Shut up and enjoy the show!". Now that he's finally getting some of the spotlight and doing an amazing job, her fans are getting downright hostile against Joshua Jackson and the character he plays. It's sickening.
This is not a review, it's more a rant, that I think is completely unjustified. Where is the writing for Olivia? Are you kidding me? The second episode was almost completely devoted to her and her daughter, as was the third episode. Peter only got some of the spotlight last week and it was shared with Olivia. Today it was about Walter with a side of Peter and Olivia. She has been kicking ass since the season premiere, going out on missions and shooting baddies. She's as front and center as ever, just in a more reflective way. She's being allowe
juli
November 10th, 2012 11:57 AM
@geaoge
I never bought him as an actor and I'm not buying now.
Walter: It's a beautiful name. Astrid: What is? Walter: Astrid.
November 10th, 2012 7:49 PM
I totally disagree with you review! Patience! Patience! Stop trying to rush things. All will be revealed in good time! Let the tension continue to build! Thank goodness the show has 2 very talented writers who are doing a fabulous. I thought this was was one of the best episodes of the series 5 out of 5 ... the hour flew by. And John Noble continues to amaze me as an actor - yet another superb job! Iloved his final scene with Peter!
November 10th, 2012 6:53 PM
I think from the 5-8, the plot is back to Olivia, I hope!
Rank: Staff Member
November 10th, 2012 5:57 PM
@Valerie Because there isn't another chance for them to be together, which the fans have been anxiously awaiting for four seasons. Maybe you didn't want them as a team. I did, and I'm crushed.
November 10th, 2012 5:41 PM
i loved this episode. Peter was a badass, so what's not to like
November 10th, 2012 5:35 PM
@geaoge LOL!
November 10th, 2012 5:19 PM
Maybe that child is September
November 10th, 2012 5:03 PM
to lucy:
Why don't you start complaining and maybe whyman start writing on your favor.
i know you can do this, because you troll all the time.
Arent you that one and only crazy anna torv fan, who post the same shit over and over on hitfix, who hangs on those justjared boards. You are the one on those justjared board arent you, stalking the diane kruger and joshua jackson post?
I'm on to you.
November 10th, 2012 4:58 PM
@ Carissa Pavlica
with all respect, but we did see olivia fighting on her own all the previous seasons before. BEEN THERE DONE THAT= olivia fighting on her own.
But we never got to see peter do it alone.
now, why is it when olivia was fighting on her own, nobody, including you were saying: okay, enough with that. We want to see her fight with peter and not alone.
There was none of that. But the moment peter start doing things on his own, then you want equal things happening to olivia and peter.
sorry, this sound too hypocrite.....
November 10th, 2012 4:35 PM
wyman heard all the complaints of Patty and he decided to write the season in his honor
Rank: Staff Member
November 10th, 2012 4:09 PM
FYI - by writing what I did I was not trying to divide you all into Josh v Anna camps. I love them both. I was hoping for a final season where they were finally together. As a team. We spend four seasons where they fought to get there, now let's see what they can do as true partners. Instead we have Peter fighting alone, as we've watched Olivia do so many times before. Been there, done that. It's not a dig against Jackson, it's against the story being told. Four characters left on the canvas. They'd accomplish a lot more counting on each other than working in private and telling lies. They can all act, they just don't have the material!
Rank: Guest Star
November 10th, 2012 4:09 PM
Could someone please tell me how Observers reproduce since there apparently are no females in fedoras.
November 10th, 2012 3:21 PM
@Olivia Dunham
i think that anna torv is back to her wooden acting from season 1&2.
But for me, she was always THE example for wooden acting.
I think that Joshua jackson leads the way on those romantic scenes between peter and olivia. Joshua is the one who shows emotions, but anna just stands there and lets joshua take the lead.
For me anna torv always had a limited range as an actress on fringe. When she plays olivia, she only shows one emotion: sad. And when she played fauxlivia: happy. Kinda boring!
November 10th, 2012 2:42 PM
Also, I can't say I appreciate all of the mindless shooting/killing that has been going on this season. Nor do I like the fact that the observers are being presented as such completely one-sided villains!
November 10th, 2012 2:38 PM
I agree with most of what you are saying, especially when it comes to Olivia. However, in general I think this was a really good episode and I haven't lost my hope for the rest of the season yet!
November 10th, 2012 2:37 PM
Peter has had an active storyline in season 2 and season 3 and season 4, I do not like how they made Olivia the victim (horrible end S4) and the girl.
Peter with 2 guns and being the sharpshooter and the bomb man and the only technician and the only one doing everything is ridiculous.
Olivia had her gun , FBI, and her ability when to save Peter, she was normal intelligent, that was it,
Josh Jackson is the example of wooden acting,
Anna Torv is the example of how to express with your face in multiple ways different set of emotions around one storyline. She really is doing all the work in this Olivia/Peter part.
November 10th, 2012 2:33 PM
Well I think that the writers are doing what they said they wanted to do which is to give the fans what they wanted last season by making Peter into an observer. Sure they still have a lot to explain about what is happening this season like why did the observers took over the planet after years of just watching and we still don't know how their abilities really work and I agree Peter should have shown some signs that he may have been even a little affected by the tech after putting it into the back of his neck or even shown some signs of discomfort by it.
The thing is pleasing the fans is one thing but at the same time they can't just make certain things happen in an episode and not expect us to question it. I don't mind the tape thing to be honest with u but I do have to wonder just how good the loyalist are at their jobs or how accurate the observers abilities are. Maybe the observers aren't as perfect as we all thought they were. Perhaps their abilities is really limited which is
November 10th, 2012 2:24 PM
To Sam:
Olivia Dunham was the FBI agent in season 1 and 2, that was her role and gobetween for Walter and Peter.
All the writing went to Walter and Peter, Olivia was being called boring, I love the Olivia from the beginning,
but the real writing for her was Over There the first half of season 3, strangely enough after J.Jackson went to the emdia, Olivia was reduced to his girlfriend.
We had plenty of storylines for Walter and Peter about their past and relationships,
we never had Olivia dealing with her childhood or abuse,
that is IMO not writing for a character.
And most of the lines Olivia has gotten since endseason 3 were around Peter,
November 10th, 2012 2:05 PM
I think this season Josh is going to kill it big time. He’s a great actor, though he hasn’t been able to shine among the others because of his “normal” roll. He was awesome the other day.
November 10th, 2012 12:57 PM
pffffffffffff, OMG there are even fans who complain about the fact that peter didnt let olivia leave the pocket universe first, he left her behind.
REALLY????????
What's next? oh yes, how about that scene were peter threw his back at olivia! What an asshole, right?!!LOL
How old are the majority of the anna torv fans, is what i ask my self all the time!
Maybe they are sexually, frustrated teenage girls/feminist. They just hate it when olivia gets it on with a man.
November 10th, 2012 12:45 PM
Joshua is doing a great job juggling Peter's three A's - agony, anger, and arrogance, and it's great to see him with something meaty to do. He's nailing it.
November 10th, 2012 12:20 PM
@ sam
totally agree with you.
November 10th, 2012 12:19 PM
@juli
funny, because I never bought anna torv as an actress and I'm not buying it now.
November 10th, 2012 12:17 PM
Just so everyone knows, these comments against Joshua/peter fans are all written by the same person who just keeps changing her name. She would probably murder Jackson if she ever saw him in real, that's how much she hates him. Don't take her seriously.
But to be honest: we, the anna torv fans, are jealous, because we don't like the peter arc, just because we want to see olivia central. We are a very selfish and hypocrite fanbase.
if you want more about the peter/joshua bashing, go to annatorvbloggers. oops, i mean fringebloggers
November 10th, 2012 11:57 AM
This season is showing Torv's/Olivia's fans true colors more than ever. At least some of them. I remember when fans wanted Peter to be part of the story, to be as front and center as Walter and Olivia and the response they got was "Shut up and enjoy the show!". Now that he's finally getting some of the spotlight and doing an amazing job, her fans are getting downright hostile against Joshua Jackson and the character he plays. It's sickening.
This is not a review, it's more a rant, that I think is completely unjustified. Where is the writing for Olivia? Are you kidding me? The second episode was almost completely devoted to her and her daughter, as was the third episode. Peter only got some of the spotlight last week and it was shared with Olivia. Today it was about Walter with a side of Peter and Olivia. She has been kicking ass since the season premiere, going out on missions and shooting baddies. She's as front and center as ever, just in a more reflective way. She's being allowe
November 10th, 2012 11:57 AM
@geaoge
I never bought him as an actor and I'm not buying now.