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  1. ABC Executive on Katherine Heigl Comments: "Unfortunate"

    8/12/2009 10:50 PM
    It wasn't about the joke, I'm sure it was a joke, but I think, at least for me, it was the appropriateness of it all.

    Like some poster said earlier, it's one thing to bitch to your friends about having a 17-hour day: that's your support system. It's something you utilize to vent. As an employee of ABC, it's highly inappropriate to even joke about that sort of thing on national television where the rest of ABC can view it. It's not what she said, it's more a criticism of what medium she chose to express that message.

    And saying it's a joke isn't some blanket get-out-of-jail free card. I'd like someone to joke about AIDS or slavery or something very controversial on air, live, nationally, and say it's okay for someone to do that. Granted, it's not as severe, but the principle applies: joking or otherwise, you have to be appropriate.

    It wasn't as if Letterman was trying to corner her into a question either, she was very, unsolicitedly stated, candid about that type of comment considering everything that's going on. And again, like someone else stated, it was convenient for her to leave out the part that the 17-hour schedule was done to accomodate her promoting her movie elsewhere. The joke, conveniently, left that portion of it out and made it seem like she was the victim.

    She could've told the story in a different manner, in a different set of words, "oh we've just all been putting such long hours, it's been rough, but we got through it," or something to that effect. Or if she had to make some off-the-cuff comment something like, "seriously? me acting for 17-hours? Who needs that?" That's more appropriate then saying, "I'm going to embarrass ABC and saying how I've worked 17-hours." Granted the quote is verbatim, but.. joke or otherwise, the phrasing was entirely inappropriate.

    Just like you can't have department heads saying off-the-cuff comments to subordinates as it would be construed as harrassment. Why say something when you can have the same message but in a better and more appropriate way?

    And btw, was it not Katherine Heigl who said to the public about IW, "He shouldn't be allowed to speak in public." His message was, I shouldn't have said, TR is not that, but instead it came off as, "TR is not a F**#*#*".

    Again, it's about being appropriate.

    And KH was NOT at all appropriate.

    Joke all you want, but there is a time and a place.

  2. Grey's Anatomy Spoilers: A New Side of the Chief

    8/12/2009 10:39 PM
    And I think Loretta Divine's schedule is now more free to make appearances at Grey's since Eli Stone was canceled. She was a series regular at the show so I'm sure it was difficult for her to make guest appearances at Grey's.

  3. Grey's Anatomy Spoilers: A New Side of the Chief

    8/12/2009 10:38 PM
    Ellis never had any children after Meredith. The career she had as a single parent didn't facilitate having any other children other than Mer.

  4. Grey's Anatomy Spoilers: Mini-Me Interns

    8/12/2009 10:33 PM
    The intern year is the 1st year of any surgical (general, OB/GYN, Ortho, neuro, derm, ophthalmology, and plastics [not trauma/peds/CT/surg onc cause those are fellowships post-GS])residency. The core regulars are currently 2nd year general surgery residents because last year (GA in-universe time not real time) they were general surgery interns.

    It depends where season 6 picks up in-universe time. At the beginning of season 5, they were half-way through their 2nd year of residency. So if at the beginning of season 6, it's already that full second year, their current batch of interns would be 2nd year residents and the core regulars would be 3rd year residents. This would mean that Torres and Bailey would be either 6th year residents or be attendings in their respective surgical specialties, i.e. Ortho and GS respectively.

    An intern-year/1st-year residents gets recycled every year. Every year there will be a new batch of interns/1st-year residents.

    Keep in mind, that's in-universe time. One season doesn't necessarily correspond to a year, cause seriously, it took 3 seasons for 1 year to pass in-universe.

  5. ABC Executive on Katherine Heigl Comments: "Unfortunate"

    8/11/2009 4:53 PM
    For hourly workers yes, and they must compensated accordingly for it. Considering CA is the MOST pro-labor state ever, there would be major issues had that kind of shit been viewed as illegal.

    KH, along with other actors, are highly-compensated in their salary so the labor laws are a little different. Also, their employment is based on their contract which I'm sure has a clause in regards to working long shifts.

    Doctors for example (being salaried employees either nominally compensated or highly-compensated), especially during residency, can work 110-120 hours a week. It was only recently that the RRC has mandated an 80-hour work limit and that limit was imposed by the RRC, not California State Labor Law.

    So it's all under the basis of a contract.

    There is no labor law out there that imposes a work limit on adults, only on how that adult is compenstated when it surpasses normal time and into overtime.

    Btw, California, being so pro-labor, has their OT start immediately after an 8-hour shift for their non-exempt employees. I could work 17 hours in one shift and get paid overtime for the 9 hours even though by the end of the week, I barely make 40.

  6. Shonda Rhimes Opens Up On Meredith, "Transitional" Season Six

    7/24/2009 9:59 PM
    Michael,

    The reason the Chief said 7 years is because a general surgery residency is between 5 and 7 years. Some can finish residency at the 5th year, but some need the 6th or 7th year. Also, the 7th season is not necessarily mean it's their 7th year, we're in season 6 and it's either at the end of their 2nd year or at the beginning of their 3rd. The seasons do not correspond to in-timeline years.

    Charlotte,

    I don't know if you meant this or not, but saying that TR is "great even though he is gay" is a back-handed derogatory statement. That's like saying, "oh yea, he's great even though he drowns puppies."
    The way you phrased that statement is saying despite TR's huge negative (being gay), he still has a positive (being great).

  7. Grey's Anatomy Spoilers: Izzie's Cancer in Remission?

    7/23/2009 7:28 PM
    Anuflas,

    Time works differently in GA-timeline, and you are right that the SP was their halfway point in their 2nd year of residency. I don't know how creative the writers are going to specialize the characters because realistically speaking, after the GS-residency, you can do fellowships in the following subspecialities:
    -cardiothoracics
    -plastics
    -surgical oncology
    -trauma
    -peds surgery

    Neuro and ortho are their own residencies, like OB/GYN. If the writers stay to realism, the residents can go in any one of the GS-subspecialities but not go into neuro or ortho, or they'd have to do another residency program.

  8. T.R. Knight: I Made the Right Decision

    7/23/2009 7:14 PM
    Anyway, I really enjoyed this perspective of TR. The guy certainly is taking accountability for his decisions and has his convictions in them being correct.

    I'm saddened to see him leave and despite his less that visible appearance [compared to other seasons] in season 5, I'm even more saddened that he didn't seek out to clarify what he calls the "breakdown in communication."

    I think, more than anything, that there was no direct blame on how TR departed the series. TR made some choices and so did Shonda.

    I'm reminded a little of what Yang said to George during the fallout of the O'Malley/Grey one night stand:
    "If you want crap to stop happening to you, stop accepting crap and demand something more."

    As I can empathize with the situation of walking away, a part of me wonders if TR just chose to accept defeat rather than fight until the very end. I think if TR had taken that route, and I believe he would have presented himself in a more classy-way (i.e. opposite of KH), I think both TR and George would still be around.

    Good luck TR!

  9. T.R. Knight: I Made the Right Decision

    7/23/2009 7:04 PM
    Wow, TR looks really good in that photo.

  10. T.R. Knight Describes Final Grey's Anatomy Scene

    7/22/2009 5:58 PM
    Lesley,

    I think you misunderstood. He was made scarce so no one would immediately think that John Doe was George, his decreased exposure had nothing to do with the elevator scene. And in regards to the shaved head, originally JDM was filmed with KH. The episode wrapped and the season ended. Probably during post is when Shonda decided to have George in the elevator, and since the season had already wrapped in terms of filming, that's when TR already had his head shaved. So when Shonda decided to reshoot that portion of the finale, the shaved head aspect of it worked since it fit with the military uniform.

    I hope that clarifies it for you.

  11. T.R. Knight Describes Final Grey's Anatomy Scene

    7/22/2009 2:44 PM
    It's also interesting to note that the expressions from KH as Izzie were for JDM as Denny; it really speaks of TR's talent how he was able to emote so much and didn't have KH's reactions to play-off of.

    It's very reminiscient of season 3's closet-scene when Izzie and George said nothing to each other yet their actions and non-verbal communications somehow was able to resonate volumes.

    The elevator shot, like the closet-scene, is hauntingly beautiful.

  12. T.R. Knight Describes Final Grey's Anatomy Scene

    7/22/2009 2:42 PM
    Hmm.. I wonder if the JDM scene with Izzie will be featured as a deleted scene on the Season 5 DVD since, according to the reporting, it had already been shot and adding in George O'Malley was a re-shoot of the original.

  13. Jessica Capshaw: Katherine Heigl is a Powerhouse

    7/22/2009 1:16 PM
    Lady_Vampirella,

    Yes, she was a series regular in 'The Practice' for the last two seasons of the show prior to ABC cancelling it and spinning it off with Boston Legal.

  14. Grey's Anatomy Spoilers: Izzie's Cancer in Remission?

    7/22/2009 1:08 PM
    Jude,

    All the original five finished their internship. That's why they are all second-year residents. And within the GA-timeline, she's only been a patient for maybe a month at most; granted even if her cancer goes into her remission, it would be difficult for her to catch up, but within hospital heirarchy, she won't be "held" back per se. A General Surgery residency takes anywhere between 5 to 7 years, the first being the intern-year, so while some like Christina can finish the GS-resideny in 5 years, maybe it'll take Izzie 6 or 7. She would still be a third-year resident next year (in GA-time).

  15. Jessica Capshaw: Katherine Heigl is a Powerhouse

    7/20/2009 6:52 PM
    Arizona Robbins is an awesome addition to the show. I think she'll definitely fill the gap, speciality-wise, that Addison left with the neonatal surgery department.

    Granted, Arizona won't practice exclusively on babies, but peds surgery can still encompass that aspect of it.

  16. Jessica Capshaw: Katherine Heigl is a Powerhouse

    7/20/2009 3:33 PM
    Didi, no, Capshaw was not on Private Practice.

  17. Grey's Anatomy Spoilers: The Priest's Purpose

    7/18/2009 7:39 PM
    An entire season dedicated to saying goodbye to Izzie? Are you high? Are you serious with this?

    Up until episode 13, Izzie was a ghost-whore. She wasn't officially diagnosed until episode 17, and even then no one knew, other than Yang, until episode 18. So from episode 18 to episode 22 was Izzie's cancer arc. Wow, 4 episodes focused on Izzie's cancer. Oh no, the other episodes really didn't count as a season did it since you're saying that season 5 was dedicated as Izzie's goodbye? Seriously? She got 4 episodes. FOUR. An entire season? Seriously?!

    Bailey's start of to peds surgery had 3+ episodes. Why not say all of Season 5 was about Bailey?

    Izzie got 4 episodes to fully flush out her cancer. And it really didn't become a "goodbye" until episodes 21 and 22. Wow you people are just so deluded in making TR this tragic victim. Wow... just... wow. If the facts don't fit, they get altered and then it's made personal by Shonda as IF that there's anything corroborating that other than heresay and synthesis.

    If I'm an executive, I'm a director, I'm a writer, why the hell am I going to pen down this touching all-George episode when the actor is going to leave anyway?! Why am I going to put down the effort in writing a story about George when he basically up and quit? How does that make it equitable to my other actors who are staying? Should I cast them off cause George "needs" a goodbye story? Please.

    He saved a woman's life. There, that's his goodbye-story. He went out as a hero, that's goodbye-enough. At the end of the day, it's Meredith's story, Meredith's journey, and Meredith's game. The ONLY goodbye-episode I would expect is if EP left the show. That's goodbye. The others could just leave quietly in the night.

    No one forced him out, no one pushed him out. TR Knight quit. Why should anyone cater to quitters? You quit something, life moves on. GA is not going to be frozen in time because one of their series regualars quits. He was guaranteed a spot up until season 7. The potential for a more George-focused story in Season 6 is lost now cause why? TR KNIGHT QUIT.

    HE QUIT.
    HE QUIT.
    HE QUIT.

    You'll never know what Shonda or the rest of the GA-writers had for him, for all your speculation, for all your theories, for all your conjecture, you'll never know.

    Why?

    CAUSE HE QUIT!!!!

    There was even negotiations for TR to be a guest star in the first few episodes of Season 6 to really come full circle with George, but guess what, TR Knight said NO to that too.

    So for those clamoring for a goodbye-George episode, point those fingers at TR Knight.

    HE QUIT.
    HE QUIT.
    HE QUIT.

    So you George-only fans, go ahead and blame Shonda, but TR Knight is to also to blame if not moreso for the death of your beloved George, and TR Knight is also to blame for not agreeing to come back for the first few eps to give your beloved George his goodbye.

    You can't do a goodbye-character episode without the actor that plays that character. And again, what did TR Knight do?

    HE QUIT.

  18. Grey's Anatomy Spoilers: How the Cliffhanger Came About

    7/18/2009 7:11 PM
    Despite the "ratings being down", the show's 5th season is still ranked in the top-ten of primetime shows. I already explained the methodology of basing the show's success or failure with just using the Neilson ratings out of context.

    Anyway, someone commented earlier if I was Shonda's protector. Of course not, I don't need to protect Shonda because I'm not deflecting blame off of Shonda. I'm just saying that for all those hardcore George fans that only watched the show for only George are placing the blame entirely on Shonda and playing TR Knight as a victim.

    TR Knight is not a victim.

    If you're going to blame Shonda for killing George, you have to blame TR Knight as well, because George's fate wasn't written until AFTER TR refused his renewal and finalized his release from his 7-year committment.

    All of you are basing your information on what the media has sensationalized between TR and Shonda. It's the model of entertainment news to paint a good and a bad guy, otherwise it wouldn't be "entertainment news". No one on this forum knows what truly happened, and all those people that say they do are so full of crap. You aren't TR's bff, you weren't part of the staff, you don't know what went down between Shonda and TR, so stop pretending like you do and then blabbing on the forums no how evil Shonda is and how victimized TR was. PUH-LEASE.

    TR quit.

    That's fact.

    Shonda wrote George's fate after he quit.

    That's fact.

    TR asked to be released from his 7-year commitment with GA, during December.

    That's fact.

    No matter how marginalized TR was in season 5, he had an huge story arcs from season 1 all the way to season 4.

    That's fact.

    TR Knight, no matter how marginalized was still a series regular and got PAID as a series regular because of star-billing. Now, even from an production stand-point, for all those that agrued that TR was shafted, he was getting paid for full-episodes despite his less than stellar visibility. If I was an executive, I'd be more pissed that I'm paying TR as much as I'm paying all the other actors and not have him do squat. And pay-out is determined at contract negotiations BEFORE anything is filmed. So, for all those theories that TR was shafted in season 5, TR Knight's salary was locked in before 5.01.

    That's fact.

    I certainly don't hold TR Knight or Shonda responsible for what happened, because that's life, and it happens. Actors move on and writers move on.

    I'm just saying for those hell-bent on blaming Shonda for everything, get some equal-perspective because it's not one-sided. If you're gonna blame Shonda, blame TR as well.

    And that argument, "she forced him to quit."

    Seriously? What are we 12? Did she tie his hand beind his back and pin his arms down and force him to cry uncle?

    No.

    He quit.

    No one forced him, he quit. That argument is such a load of bull. No one forces anyone to quit. You either stick it out or you don't. Life isn't peaches and cream and everything's all Candyland, no, sometimes your worklife sucks. And you either accept it and wait it out or you quit. But NO ONE FORCES YOU TOO.

    Considering California is SUCH a pro-labor state, and as actors are employees, it would be very difficult to force someone to quit and not be held liable to labor-actions.

    So NO, Shonda didn't force TR to quit, TR quit. He made a choice. Hold him accountable for that choice and the consequences that happened. Once he said, "I quit" Shonda had no obligation to keep that character available for him in the future. PLEASE! THIS IS A BUSINESS! You quit your job, it's not there for you waiting, hoping it comes back, it's either filled by someone else or it's dissolved. Acting and acting jobs are no different. You quit, there is no expectation that it's there waiting for you.

    And seriously, when is it EVER the practice of any series to date for any writer to obligate themselves to hold a character indefinitely in-limbo. And even then, this is a DRAMA people, dead don't mean dead. Again, look at Bonnie, Nurse Fallon, Dylan, and Denny. ALL DEAD PEOPLE. And guess what, they came back.. why? Because the actors came back. Now... the argument that there's no way that George can come back is dumb. Hello? Flashbacks. Fantasy scenes. Heaven. Purgatory. George can still come back.

    Now... that... is ALSO something you have hold TR accountable for. Because the dead people only come back if their actors come back to play them.

    If TR doesn't come back, that's on TR.

    He's not a victim. He made a choice.

    What's that saying? You made your bed now lie in it. Or He dug his own grave, now lie in it.

    He choice to leave.

    It wasn't personal, it wasn't vendictive. Get over yourselves. This is a business. At the end of the day, it's a business. Call it ratings-grab, call it whatever, but it's a business. He left. GA accommodated that departure, so deal with it.

  19. Sandra Oh, Chandra Wilson Nominated For Emmy Awards

    7/16/2009 11:05 AM
    Rachel,

    I think you're oversimplifying Bailey's character, to say that she hasn't changed since season 1 is a gross misrepresentation. From Season 1, we knew Bailey as the Nazi, hard as nails, tough, demanding, unyielding, we had no idea about her or her family side or if she even had a soft side. Now, she's letting her humanity show, while still maintaining the essence of the Nazi, she definitely has grown since that very first introduction mid-season of 2005.

    As she said, "Nobody better call me 'Nazi' again."

  20. Sandra Oh, Chandra Wilson Nominated For Emmy Awards

    7/16/2009 11:02 AM
    And ultimatley, I think it's very hard for a pre-nomination to get through final-nomination considering network television has to compete with cable-television.

    I'm seriously guys, cable-television programming has been awesome and that kind of competition makes it really tough. True Blood, Mad Men, Big Love, Dexter? I mean those are some QUALITY-shows. I'm a little disappointed that not GA-nods made it to the finals for support actor: I felt PD and JC really brough their A-game.

    Also, EP's performance this year has been by far the best she's brought to GA so again, I'm disappointed that she didn't make it to the finals either, but then again, look at the competition.. 4 cable-shows, and they're quite good too. Still, I think had the cable-shows not been a factor in the emmy's, I think EP would've made it.

  21. Grey's Anatomy Spoilers: How the Cliffhanger Came About

    7/16/2009 10:57 AM
    For example....

    "Shonda, I hate you"

    "Shonda, you're just making crap up to make yourself look good."

    "Shonda, you killed George, don't make it seem like you didn't."

    "Shonda, you killed George cause you hated TR.. AND George, AND you're still pissed because ABC had to fire your BFF, Isiash Washington."

    "Shonda, I'll never forgive you."

    "Oh please Shonda, you liar."

    "She's so full of it! Shonda you're horrible."

    "I'm SOOO done with GA, let it burn and fall!! Gizzie FOREVER!"


    That about cover it??

  22. Grey's Anatomy Spoilers: How the Cliffhanger Came About

    7/16/2009 10:55 AM
    And let the Anti-Shonda, let's blame Shonda, oh I hate Shonda posts begin... ugh.

    I will be thoroughly surprised if a non-anti-shonda post makes it here. Seriously, it's like a powder-keg for you people.

  23. Sandra Oh, Chandra Wilson Nominated For Emmy Awards

    7/16/2009 10:54 AM
    I think it definitely speaks of Sandra and Chandra's talents that they've been consistently nominated from the very beginning. Those two characters really require acting-chops, and Oh and Wilson definitely have it.

  24. Grey's Anatomy Spoilers: Right Where We Left Off

    7/16/2009 10:51 AM
    As far as theories go, Meredith might be the one that we've taken for granted in terms of emotional-response.

    Patra,

    They've debunked the McBaby rumor for Meredith, but I think you're right that it could serve as a exit-vehicle for Ellen to cleverly mask her pregnancy. Meredith could take some time off and lounge around in the house all depressed, covered up in pillows and eating, and Christina could come over and be like, "You're getting fat."

    They've also confirmed that Chyler will be in every episode of Season 6, so a McSteamy baby-SL is very unlikely.

  25. Grey's Anatomy Spoilers: Right Where We Left Off

    7/16/2009 10:45 AM
    Kristen,

    While you are correct in the timeline, the original five are not 1st year residents, they're 2nd year residents. A lot of medical/surgical programs considers the intern year the first year of residency: so being an first-year surgical intern is the same as being a first-year surgical resident. In hospital hiearchy though, a distinction between residents that can pratice medicine on their own and residents that require supervision to practice medicine has to be made: thus interns and residents.

    Also, canonly, the Chief, on numerous occassions, has stated that the original five are second-year residents.
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