Differences aside lise, you probably are right. But since they now have a opportunity to clean it up, we get to have that much more fun! My fun comes in trying to figure out where they might try to go in spite of the storyline. I gave up on trying to figure out why it wasn't moving in the most logical direction. I use to care about that but since I couldn't change that I got on board with how they were writing their episodes and where they might go. I am having fun exploring the shows writing style and trying to figure out things by what is not being written. Once I jumped on board with the show, I could go back and see what they were doing. When I did that, it removed a lot of the plot holes. That alone was very exciting for me. I've learned a lot just being on this site turning over this series. This is the most fun I ever had with TV. Will I ever do this again, NO! There are great minds on this site. I love the challenge. I especially love it because it's pure. We accept or not accept analysis. We combine analysis. We discuss the shows points from different views. We are all from different walks of life and backgrounds. From different educational levels. What I love is that we are able to discuss a show like this in such a methodical manner with respect. I love that for the most part we leave our egos at the door. Yes! We have had our fun and have been silly as hell. That's why I am here! This series has touched down on some of the most serious topics of the day. I love that we were able to have these discussions without argument. It doesn't get any better then this. There are a lot of sites that attack the blogger for having a opinion about the show. This is the biggest reason I'm here, I don't even read other sites. I'm glad I found this site, it has been an enlightening experience. And while I'm on the subject of this site, thank you Christine for hosting. I remember when you said we were great fans and that you would start a roundtable because of it. We've only gotten better since then. Thanks for all your efforts and inviting me to the roundtable discussions. You were right, you do have a great job! I've a blast just blogging here!
You know you're right, this could be Volker's dirty dealings. It wasn't Haibach in grace's hotel room or the Rigspelt house. Haibach's right thumb was cut off by Kirkland. There is no way he could handle that shot gun. Haibach likes little girls. Just his profile alone suggest that it wasn't him. He has never been physically aggressive and is intimidated by grown women. It wasn't Haibach. Good call, Volker could be the person. if our string puller is not female , kirkland or Stiles, it could be Volker. He did exhibit Red John qualities and he is well connected. As a matter of fact he does fit the Red John profile to a T. Remember the guy who walked in front of the bus? Remember how everyone was deathly afraid of him? Very, very, very interesting! ? ! 😨
I was thinking about the mentalist today and something occurred to me about Jisbon. Haffner told Lisbon and Van Pelt to stay away from Jane because he has angered a lot of powerful people. And that they could get hurt if they stayed around him. I was thinking either they will become the dynamic duo or they are going to have a love affair and then remain friends. I don't think Jane, if it goes this route, will or even be able to bare the idea that Lisbon could be hurt being around him, if this is not over. Something is still going on. In the episode White as the driven Snow, the man in Rigspelt house was wearing tactical gear and protective goggles. His first shot hit the diaper bag dead center. Rigsby was standing next to it and is a bigger target. It had to be an intentional miss. Also who the hell would know where the weak security point was in the house unless they had knowledge of security installations. Haibach was way to stupid for any of that. I'm believe someone offered Haibach and opportunity for revenge and set it up for him. Haibach was screaming and yelling that he wanted revenge when he was being put in the ambulance. I'm wondering now if there wasn't someone at the scene that over heard what he said.
That's why I love trying to figure out where this show might go. There is a lot of good stuff in the series! I love turning over every rock!
What you say is very interesting because it's in line with what I was saying. Jane has now opened himself up. What if this was just a game by the string puller to get Jane to a point where he could utterly destroy him. Jane has killed two people who said they we Red John. The string puller lets Jane think he's won and has his vengeance for himself and his family. AND THEN BOOM! He starts playing games again. Only the types of games Jane would notice. The kind of games that would make Jane question his sanity. How could he convince anybody of the truth without putting himself in jeopardy. The game with Jane and Red John was pretty sinister to begin with. But to return and slowly creep back into his life via a different form would be even more sinister and in keeping with the character that was presented throughout the series. Someone just waiting to get that last piece of Jane the same way they did K. Frye. Someone waiting to strike just when Jane thinks he has battled his demon and won. Allows Jane to walk into his new life with a happy heart full of intentions and then shows Jane that he has been controlled this whole time. Manipulated by a power that never had any intention of letting him go or be at peace. The game that was being played was obsessive, devious and maniacal. In the course of the game many people were brutally murdered. Why would who ever this is just stop having a obsessive compulsion such as this? They were playing a cat and mouse game. Cat's play with their prey, disorienting it and then.............!
@Rationalgal, that's what I'm talking about, where's Waldo? That was petty slick in retrospect. It means that they were always going to use someone from the series even if they hadn't made a choice. The story leaned very heavily towards Stiles and Visualize. I think it still does, why would they put Jason Cooper on a suspect board with Haibach?
Now that is really funny!
That's what I'm talking about!
I think the biggest mystery for me about you, is the fact that you're here at all. So why are you here? I know why I'm here. And why are you chasing me down so hard for a fight? If you have a point to make, well....make it. I'm busy! Busy trying to solve a mystery! Look, master class writers have their place and the mentalist has its place. I currently occupy the space in the mentalist place. Now if you can tell me how what you are talking about relates to how I can solve this mystery, then by all means, have at it! If not, I suspect you and your master class expertise can figure out the rest!
I read an article by Heller and he said he would go back to Red John if he needed to. There are lots and lots of articles floating around with the cast saying all kinds of things. The one thing I'm sure of is we are not going to get any real answers about what's going to really happen in an episode. They tease everything and most of there interviews are very ambiguous. We have seen them say they weren't going to do certain things and they did anyway. What that tells me is that anything can happen. The biggest part of the series is that it is a serialized mystery. Which means they are not going to tell you anything. What they have been very good at is doing a whole lot of talking without saying anything. The show appeased the Jisbon fans, which is something they laughed at when they first heard it. The Red John fans aren't happy and they may try and wrap this thing up by appeasing them. All I know is we have mystery quietly brewing, lurking in the background, until they decided to move it forward. Basically all any of us are doing is speculating on what will happen. We will only know what happens when we see it unfold in the episodes. There are really only three things that can happen. 1) They completely move forward with Jisbon. 2) They go after the Red John connections, such as Visualize / FBI. 3) They reopen the Red John case. Which was never really shown to be closed be any law enforcement agencies. They just made it all go away. 3)
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