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I'm for sure that the names weren't on the graves because he fully expected to die. Once he was dead all the dates were to be put on the graves. Mystery resolved. It amazes me how they expect us to know that or figure certain things out. It's either that or we've gotten good at reading between the lines.

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@HA559, I have been waiting for you to post. I hope you haven't changed your mind. Then I want to add my two cents in about K. Frye.

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Yep, that's what I think too. We can put this one to bed.

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So what it looks like is Red John went on a killing spree trying to hurt Jane, scare him and get him to make him back off. I don't really see anything else here. If you do add it in.

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Maybe all this was, was an attempt to break Jane down and nothing more. Maybe the information did come from Sophie Miller. Another game to misdirect the search and make Jane feel guilty on two levels.

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Rationalgal, I think I know what the message behind killing Lee Lee is. The killing of Lee Lee made Jane go back home. The social worker said Red John just had to have Lee Lee. The memory in Jane's head was of a proud father playing with his little girl. Daddy's little girl. Lee Lee never meant anything to Jane personally except a happy memory. Why try and kill this memory, what would be the point of it? What if this was really a message? Where is the memory? It's IN Jane's memory. What is the memory of? Daddy's happy little girl. So what if this is the message....... IN MEMORY OF DADDY'S HAPPY LITTLE GIRL. The only connection I can make here is two things; 1) this was a taunt for killing Jane's daughter or 2) it's a message from Angela's father. But I can't see why a father would kill a grandchild and his own daughter. And I don't have a connection for this to Angela's father. But the message does seem to indicate 1 or 2. Anybody want to take a guess?

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Barlow was adamant about the idea that Red John had psychic powers. The problem with Barlow is he's a con and prone to being a big liar. I thought it was interesting that he thought the Jane's were wicked people but not his people. We know for sure Barlow wasn't talking about McAllister because he'd still be alive today if he had psychic powers. I never thought Barlow was Red John. What I don't understand is why kill an innocent. Lee Lee Barlow really had nothing to do with Jane except for being a memory. Why did Red John need to kill a memory? The problem I have with this is that the killing of Lee Lee Barlow as an adult didn't really kill Jane's memory. In reality, it added a knew one. In trying to kill this memory was Red John trying to psychologically kill a little girl. We saw a happy faced baby girl and a proud father playing with her on a Sunny festive day. The only connection I can make here is that Jane got Angela killed. She may have been seen by her father as his baby girl. Mentally speaking, isn't this how most fathers see there daughters. Daddy's little girl? Is that the message?

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You know, something has just occurred to me. We are turning this thing over and over. We're making progress, I think. Now what kind of analysis would we have it we didn't explore everything. OF COURSE, I WANT TO BE RIGHT! IT WOULD BE VERY PLEASING AND IT WOULD MAKE ME TINGLE A LITTLE TOO. BUT THAT'S JUST ME AND WHAT I WANT. 😁! Me wanting that doesn't make it the truth SOOOOOOO....... We know Red Johns have acted on the behalf of someone. A string puller, a puppet master. we need to explore the notion that this string pulling puppet master is a female. It could be the reason that we have not found this person. We automatically assumed that the characteristics belonged to a man, but we did notice that certain characteristics were of a feminine nature. If the Red John's were passing along information on behalf of the string puller, there is a chance that those qualities that are indicative of a female could have been passed on in the information that Jane received. Men and women use certain patterns and pattern phrases in their speech language. It doesn't make it less effective or any less powerful but it could indicate what sex you are without having to see the individual who said it. We noticed that most of the victims are women. I went on my rant about that. I SURE IN THE HELL DID!
If we are going to hold a man to his standards, we need to hold a women to hers as well. A woman can also be as evil as any man. She can be just as powerful, wealthy, and politically connected as any man. A women can do the same thing we've seen this string puller do. So now I'm going look for clues that might indicate this type of deception.

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Barlow, like Stiles seems to know who Red John is or someone got to Barlow and made him say what he said.

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Barlow made an interesting statement. He said any punk could say here is Red John, there is Red John and you'd believe him. That's an interesting statement considering what we have discovered about the Red Johns. He also said, he will always defeat you and that Red John had powers, real psychic powers. What was Barlow trying to tell Jane and why did he look so worried at the end? What is lurking in Jane past that everyone seems to know about but won't talk about?