@Bored Now - If Snow considers Rumple worse than Cora, why *wouldn't* she have chosen the option where he died? Instead she not only chose magic (comes with a price, dearie), she chose the option where she literally cursed a mother's love (cursed Cora's heart) in retaliation for all the pain her family has felt. So, Rumple not only survives to show her and her daughter, Emma, the way down the dark path. But, she's continued the endless cycle of killing the parents of people who do us wrong while allowing the real manipulator to get off scott-free! Do these characters NEVER learn? Doing what Rumple wants always gets them MORE pain and suffering.
@San - Just rewatched that very scene. Cora & Rumple do have feelings for each other. She clearly wants love, and he cares enough to warn her that being with him could bring darkness into her life. But, that's not the point. Being the Dark One is not a "curse" that can be lifted IMO. It wasn't inflicted upon Rumple by another person. He chose that existence willingly, which may make all the difference. Also, he doesn't seem to regret being the Dark One, and has never said he wants to give it up.
What's with the Quotes section? You're missing all of Rumple's quips and funny exchanges w/Cora, like... RUMPLE: LOVE the dress!Cora: Well, brides always have to be snow white.Rumple: *giggle* When you see the future, there is irony EVERYWHERE.
On Snow's decision, we know why the plot went the way it did toward Cora's death (so this series will hopefully continue for many seasons). But, I'm puzzled as to why the writers even brought up Snow's contemplation of that other possibility - just putting Cora's heart back inside her and letting Rumple die, thus solving this eternal plot/counterplot dynamic that's been going on for lifetimes. Now that I know Snow knew there was another way, I'm kind of ticked off at her for not doing it! They should have just cut out that line in editing the episode. Rumple's comment continues to echo through the entire series, "I made a bad choice." YA THINK?!?! That's practically the theme of the series - one bad choice begetting so many bad choices.
FANTASTIC episode! I can't say enough about Rose McGowan as Young Cora. Dang, she was amazing in those scenes with Rumple, where her survival instincts morph into an overwhelming desire for power at any cost. It was fascinating to see Rumple seduced by her because it seemed to be very organic on both their parts, each mixing lust w/power and appreciating the fact that they don't have to hide their real desires anymore. They didn't seem to have an agenda during the fairy tale part. But, as their relationship grew, Rumple clearly let his guard down, while Cora's brain never let her heart take over. I think Cora did love Rumple. It's just that love wasn't as important to her as power & control. Interesting that she never tried to have both because the lady was smart. I guess she knew that as long as she was with him, she'd never be the top dog and he'd always have some kind of control over her.
@Doe-Rae - Watch the final scene between Rumple & Young Cora. She explicitly states that she will never have his children. Regina is Cora & Prince Henry's child. @TFV168 - Pay attention to the names. Snow's parents were King Leopold & Queen Eva. Bratty Princess Eva went on to marry Leopold in a different kingdom because Cora married Henry for power (although why Cora was never crowned hasn't been explained). There are different kingdoms & ruling families, and not everyone is related. Snow didn't know Charming's family at all. Did you watch the opening scenes? Cora & Eva couldn't be sisters. Eva was a princess from birth. Cora was a poor miller's daughter who was about 10 years older.
@isoron - I think NBC just lost it's collective mind. February is SWEEPS month, and they came in at the bottom of the barrel (behind Univision!) because they put their most popular shows (REVOLUTION, GRIMM, THE VOICE) on hiatus while trying to introduce new ones in that period. The two that returned were COMMUNITY & SMASH, which were never solid hits to begin with. Someone over there really dropped the ball.
Enjoyed the episode so much! While I'm not the biggest fan of Juliette, I think Bitsie Tulloch nailed her delivery of, "What now?" when she opened her front door to see both Renard & Nick on her porch. That was hilarious! I think viewers forget she's been through a LOT, and has no knowledge of the Wesen world as Hank does (plus her memories of Nick are gone). She must think she's losing her mind. That brings up the ONE plot hole they didn't plug - how did they get Juliette to agree to all this when she's doesn't remember any of Nick's Grimm backstory? It's all hocus pocus to her, and I'm surprised she isn't rejecting it outright like before. Also loved the last scenes in the shop. FINALLY everyone is together in one shot - Nick, Monroe, Rosalee, Renard, & Juliette. I don't think that has ever happened. The only one missing was Hank.
I agree with the review for the most part. What had me confused in this episode is how Julia is changing the book of BOMBSHELL. Now, it's going to be about how *men* see Marilyn and how they speak for her. How is this an improvement? I guess we'll have to see. This sounds even more shallow because it's what we've ALWAYS seen about Monroe, everybody else's fantasies projected on to her. I don't see how this viewpoint will result in a musical about a strong, independent woman.
To those who think Beckett should have been in Paris helping Rick, she wouldn't have been able to help a fly. An American detective who doesn't speak French and has no jurisdiction in a foreign country would be told by Parisian detectives to go through the proper channels before they'd give her the time of day. You think the French treat non-French speaking tourists rudely? Consider how they'd snub Kate if she tried walking into Parisian police headquarters and demanding assistance, in English. Er, no. In this case, Rick (who has probably listened to more French) had more underground connections in that country than Kate did. He had no qualms about doing things under the table, or illegal, to get Alexis back. Leaving Kate out was the best choice. But, frankly, what a waste of Dylan Walsh as the FBI agent. He didn't do anything!
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