@tyluv3 - We still don't have the whole story (and if you read all of his 2 part interview, Ryan acknowledges he said the wrong things at times -- but, yes, give him credit for his explanations for why/what he said, even if, as he said, he spoke without thinking/considering). I think his answer to a question/comment that the actors on Nip/Tuck said, with regard to the network executives, that "he was out of control." Ryan answered: "My vision was to keep pushing the boundary. And at a certain point it is the network's job to say, 'You can't do that ...'"
Anyhow, the remaining question is which one or more of the 3 doesn't think television is for them and doesn't want to do a spin-off ... and did that person intentionally peevishly start this trouble?? I love Lea and hope she's not the one, although maybe she wants to go back to Broadway, where she likely has an even better chance of getting another starring vehicle than before Glee. Or maybe it's Chris Colfer who went from high school musicals to Glee -- and maybe doesn't like TV and wants to get to the stage, which he certainly would have a good shot for now after Glee. I can't believe it's Cory Monteith because he's an actor pushing 30 and this is his first break. I sure can't see him singing or getting a starring role in a play.
This actually makes sense -- Murphy's explanation. Also I think we all need to keep in mind that there was enough extra show of the season finale to fill another 30 minutes (meaning that after Murphy and co. were allowed to turn "Born This Way" into a 90 minute episode, it seems quite likely he took it upon himself to film the finale as a 90 minute episode ... and then didn't get the network Ok.
Still, I don't see why they can't just send Rachel and Kurt to New York and follow them there (maybe the network will like it and do the spinoff later) and cover them with however much time each episode like they, for instance, covered the Warblers?
Still, they seem to be receptive to their fans. It would be nice if RM didn't talk so much without thinking first, but if things keep getting corrected ... that's certainly a lot more than a lot of shows that just go offtrack. I'm so happy Glee was created and is on! I'm so happy Lea Michele has come along (I think she's just the next one in a line from Judy Garland to Barbra Streisand to Lea Michele and can do as many plays/movies). So, I'm happy for the consideration for the fans and grateful for Murphy and company.
I really think the Moonlighting curse was really the playful-sarcastic back and forth that didn't translate into marriage. Booth and Brennan are different. She has always listened to and trusted what he's said -- besides her strong character. Like many successful longterm relationships, they're already best friends. I think it will work ... and I'd like to see it work!
It does seem that the determination of ages was rather arbitrary. In the first season the starting varsity QB was a sophomore (and the team only won one game -- meaning the 10th grader wasn't a prodigy); and the captain of the cheerleaders was a freshman (since they're not graduating Quinn)? It may be that Lea Michele and Colfer wanted to leave (or that Lea Michele wanted a raise - and, no, I've seen nothing that said she did, just don't think Murphy would go along with anyone shining as much as him).
Anyhow, that's what I think by all I've seen. To Ryan Murphy, this is his show and he's the star. I do love the show so give him credit not only for putting it together but for really bringing out so much talent in the cast (and like writing Rachel and Kurt for Michele and Colfer). So, other than having to admit I'll be far more interested in what Lea Michele is doing 2 years from now than what Ryan Murphy is doing (even though it will be on Glee), I won't give up on the show, but hope he'll still bring out that talent!
Glee is Lea Michele's show. I'll be curious to see the ratings after she's gone. In my opinion, Morrison and Lynch are expendable and wouldn't be missed if they're written off the show ... but Rachel Berry isn't. I really don't understand why Murphy thinks guest stars like Paltrow and schizophrenics like Sue are the lynchpins of the show's success??
@Sam, I, for one, am all for your idea (and I agree it would be a better show than Glee without those characters). I didn't picture them in school, though, but working on the stage as extras and understudies with maybe Rachel getting a few speaking parts (second ingenue?). There could be a lot more story as they all try to survive and pursue their dreams. Love it!
I can't see the show surviving Lea Michele leaving. If they were to do a spin-off of Rachel, Kurt, and others going to New York, I suspect it would hasten the end of Glee. I'm guessing, though, that every one of the cast has offers they might want to pursue ... and letting cast members graduate would be a way to deal with that -- but still ....
This could be Ryan Murphy's theatrical background, too. That is, it's my understanding that the playwright is present during rehearsals to rewrite the script (as well as help with the character interpretation) as they go along. And aren't Broadway musicals famous for deciding they need another/different number in one act or another and rewriting the whole play to accomodate it? Anyhow, glad that they plan to have both writers and weekly script meetings next year.
I don't even remember the songs Charice has sung -- so they didn't stand out to me (thus where I'm coming from, my bias). She is boring and blank as a character, acting-wise -- only I'm not sure it isn't the role she's been asked to play (somebody bitter about Rachel's cruel and potentially dangerous attempt to get her because she's talented). Is there anything for her to work with there? She says she's nervous and vulnerable ... but only so that she can give Rachel a lecture on proper behavior, thus not really being very vulnerable at all. If her character could be about more than that, she might have something to interpret and develop.
I hesitated to watch this episode because of the review (and still haven't watched the Cam directing children's theater because of the review, but was finally curious enough to see what all the conflict was about ...
This wasn't a very good episode. I believe in giving comedies a break week to week because there are always some laughs and an episode that's terrific really is terrific and I'm still going to turn in the following week if I don't care for one week's story, even when the show's about a dangerous bum moving into the princess house for laughs or the gay characters acting like impotent cliches over getting a restaurant reservation and hiding a spill on a carpet.
This episode, though, was pretty sick. I guess the joke of the week was sex (from pulling out the Halloween clip of Hayley in a bunny costume for Grandpa to look at and Phil trying to pass off Gloria, who treats him as a friend and family, as his wife, which is see-a-psychiatrist-and-restraining-order sick, to suggesting Gloria would have never heard of a saxophone, because--why?--she's bimbo dumb or because her husband has never spoken to her about any of his interests other than her breasts). It wasn't that this show was the worst episode of "Modern Family"--Manny and sports was funny--but it really crossed the line of poor taste like no other I can think of.
Two things from the interview I wanted to comment in to stress:
1) They cut 20 minutes out of the season finale to fit the time slot. If the show is 44 minutes (plus commercials), that's 1/3 of the episode not seen (like the Quinn subplot). Maybe those 20 minutes will be on the DVD of the show ... whenever it comes out (or they'll run it as a 90 minute episode before the start of next season.
2) They are hiring a writing staff. The more I think about it, the more I have faith a staff discussing stories and characters every week will make for more consistency from week to week than there has been!
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Quinn and Jesse together sounds perfect. He's ambitious the way Finn isn't and needs a Quinn to take charge of him just as much. Of course, she'd have to put him through school and/or support him until he gets a break on Broadway, but he will do his part (if she can keep him from forgetting about going to class, or keep track of where there are auditions, whichever! Like it ...
I liked the story more than the songs this episode. I didn't think they were good enough to win, just like the compeyiyion where Quinn had her baby. What I took from the onstage kiss was that it was awkward and didn't end, there was no turning to the audience, no transition so that the audience knew to applaud. In that sense it cost them (maybe the way a figure skater who doesn't finish as the music ends is penalized. I kind of took it like a point about performance and the personal on stage (and am cynical enough to think the Cats tickets joke possibly originated with Lea Michele or Jonathan Groff who grew up on and around Broadway and have probably gotten a kick out of the scalpers trying to sell such tickets to out-of-towners).
They probably will just forget/ignore Quinn's comment about wanting someone to love her ... but that is just the kind of character development the show could pursue. Scary Quinn causes things to happen to her -- not most of which she wants.
They've brought them together without dealing with any of the previous baggage. I kind of think this is good in that the show would work with them acting as an old married couple -- rather than a perpetual honeymoon and "cute" sparring. That would be the moonlighting curse (that they couldn't become a normal couple due to all that came before). I think it will be interesting to see how this plays out -- and I predict it will work, whether they marry or not.
They've always done bizarre things -- like episode after episode of that cop out to get him and the drug/mental rehab over and over and over. I guess the creators/producers just get bored and try anything (probably short of alien abduction, but who knows). I watch the show in spite of the unrealistic bizarro junk, not because of it.
I like the proprietary way Brennan takes and hangs on to Booth's arm -- or, too, the way she says the stuffed bunny is from Booth too. And I like how Booth is sort of pleased about it. He loves her. Brennan, though, in these last 3 episodes, how they're portraying her, reminds me of that line in the movie, "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" when the boy compliments her by saying she's not like other girls and Buffy answers, "Yes I am." And so is Bones.
I think you'd really have to hate cops to consider this murder. A man identifies himself as and proves he's a wanted serial killer, an accomplice to O'Loughlin who's just shot up a safe house, threatens a CBI consultant with a gun with hollow tip bullets, taunts said consultant by saying all the CBI agents are gone and what is the consultant going to do to stop him, and will not allow himself to be detained (which is resisting arrest). And, all of this can be easily established.
A lot of people are mentioning jail/prison. Remember when Jane was suspended (first season, first episode)? A CBI agent would be suspended with pay while Internal Affairs investigated the shooting -- so I expect next season's opener will start with Jane suspended ... and the case that draws him back in.
You know, it turns out I sort of like LaRoche and his little dog (and Hightower too). Wonder if they can all fit?
It would be as ludicrous as LOST and HEROES eventually if Red John isn't dead. I suppose it is possible the writers/producers have decided to take a show that is good for specific reasons and throw them all out so that they can turn the show into a graphic novel ("I knew that you knew that I knew that you knew that I knew that you knew! Aha!"). That way they can get the ratings for the Mentalist right down there with "The Tick".
Great season finale -- sitting down and finishing his tea after killing his Moriarty! Just enough loose ends to resolve to start next season, too. Wasn't it stunning when the phone rang and such an everyday guy answered it right there? Wow!
The way she told him about the pregnancy was exactly as her character would. Also typical that she sat on the information, evaluating the horrible little redhead in the process.
Funny show -- and likely fine for the long run. I do think there's been some growth this year, although maybe some of what they were doing initially is more regular sitcom now. Alex and Hayley as sisters have grown into being "sisters" rather than cliches of their caricatures. Jay and Gloria are much more like a married couple than their initial "Are you her father?" kind of relationship. Manny is solidified and Luke is more than the kid jumping on the trampoline. With any TV show, some episodes are better than others but I get a lot of laughs watching Modern Family!
Nobody's said it that I've noticed, but the person in the file doesn't have to be guilty. I'm overthinking and assuming the writers are completely logical to do so, but I can't see it would be Vance if they are handing him the file in front of Vance, when he could have, for instance, since they didn't tell him not to, opened the file without picking it up. I also don't think any organization would have any agent investigate another that everyone knows he's been sleeping with. I still think it's Ray (or at least that he's the bad guy of the next arc), but admit someone pointed out that he's not Navy and why then would NCIS be running the investigation of Ray (if one was needed).
It could be Ziva (her being innocent and set up by Ray)?? Tony might just sit back and think -- meaning look just like that -- if the folder was of someone he knew to be innocent.
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Anyhow, the remaining question is which one or more of the 3 doesn't think television is for them and doesn't want to do a spin-off ... and did that person intentionally peevishly start this trouble?? I love Lea and hope she's not the one, although maybe she wants to go back to Broadway, where she likely has an even better chance of getting another starring vehicle than before Glee. Or maybe it's Chris Colfer who went from high school musicals to Glee -- and maybe doesn't like TV and wants to get to the stage, which he certainly would have a good shot for now after Glee. I can't believe it's Cory Monteith because he's an actor pushing 30 and this is his first break. I sure can't see him singing or getting a starring role in a play.
Hope it comes out, though!
A Glee Spinoff? Ryan Murphy Clarifies Remarks, Explains Casting Debacle
Still, I don't see why they can't just send Rachel and Kurt to New York and follow them there (maybe the network will like it and do the spinoff later) and cover them with however much time each episode like they, for instance, covered the Warblers?
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Glee to Clean House in Season 4: Who is Out?
Anyhow, that's what I think by all I've seen. To Ryan Murphy, this is his show and he's the star. I do love the show so give him credit not only for putting it together but for really bringing out so much talent in the cast (and like writing Rachel and Kurt for Michele and Colfer). So, other than having to admit I'll be far more interested in what Lea Michele is doing 2 years from now than what Ryan Murphy is doing (even though it will be on Glee), I won't give up on the show, but hope he'll still bring out that talent!
Glee Creator Confirms: Characters WILL Graduate!
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Glee Producer Pushes for Bruce Springsteen, Talks Cast Graduation
Matthew Morrison on Glee Storylines, Scripts: Written on the Spot!
Glee Season 3 Spoilers: Sunshine, Santana and Senior Year!
Modern Family Season Finale Review: An Insult to Gloria
This wasn't a very good episode. I believe in giving comedies a break week to week because there are always some laughs and an episode that's terrific really is terrific and I'm still going to turn in the following week if I don't care for one week's story, even when the show's about a dangerous bum moving into the princess house for laughs or the gay characters acting like impotent cliches over getting a restaurant reservation and hiding a spill on a carpet.
This episode, though, was pretty sick. I guess the joke of the week was sex (from pulling out the Halloween clip of Hayley in a bunny costume for Grandpa to look at and Phil trying to pass off Gloria, who treats him as a friend and family, as his wife, which is see-a-psychiatrist-and-restraining-order sick, to suggesting Gloria would have never heard of a saxophone, because--why?--she's bimbo dumb or because her husband has never spoken to her about any of his interests other than her breasts). It wasn't that this show was the worst episode of "Modern Family"--Manny and sports was funny--but it really crossed the line of poor taste like no other I can think of.
Glee Season 3 Spoilers: Sunshine, Santana and Senior Year!
1) They cut 20 minutes out of the season finale to fit the time slot. If the show is 44 minutes (plus commercials), that's 1/3 of the episode not seen (like the Quinn subplot). Maybe those 20 minutes will be on the DVD of the show ... whenever it comes out (or they'll run it as a 90 minute episode before the start of next season.
2) They are hiring a writing staff. The more I think about it, the more I have faith a staff discussing stories and characters every week will make for more consistency from week to week than there has been!
Glee Season 3 Spoilers: Sunshine, Santana and Senior Year!
Glee Season Finale Review: Off to New York
Quinn and Jesse together sounds perfect. He's ambitious the way Finn isn't and needs a Quinn to take charge of him just as much. Of course, she'd have to put him through school and/or support him until he gets a break on Broadway, but he will do his part (if she can keep him from forgetting about going to class, or keep track of where there are auditions, whichever! Like it ...
Glee Season Finale Review: Off to New York
They probably will just forget/ignore Quinn's comment about wanting someone to love her ... but that is just the kind of character development the show could pursue. Scary Quinn causes things to happen to her -- not most of which she wants.
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Bones Season Finale Round Table: "The Change in the Game"
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So, is this a plot twist or Hollywood?
The Mentalist Season Finale Review: Tea with Red John
You know, it turns out I sort of like LaRoche and his little dog (and Hightower too). Wonder if they can all fit?
The Mentalist Season Finale Review: Tea with Red John
The Mentalist Season Finale Review: Tea with Red John
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Bravo!
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It could be Ziva (her being innocent and set up by Ray)?? Tony might just sit back and think -- meaning look just like that -- if the folder was of someone he knew to be innocent.