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NCIS Round Table: "Revenge"

If one questions whether Ziva could win a fight with Bodnar, it is probably indicative of a poorly choreographed fight. Of course it isn't automatic that a guy would always beat a girl just because each has been trained. Foreman pounded Frazier, knocking him down 6 times in 2 rounds before the fight was stopped; Foreman pounded Norton, knocking him down 3 times in the second round before the fight was stopped -- and Ali, who lost one time each to both Frazier and Norton, knocked Foreman out. If Ziva is a better fighter, Bodnar's size would make no difference. If she's a lot better, she could beat him while injured. And that's not even taking into account that Bodnar was an executive in Mossad, sitting behind a desk (picture George Smiley who always had others to do his fighting for him).

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@Dadesh64 - Thanks. I checked it out. The pictures make it easy to follow too!

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I don't want Holmes and Watson romantically involved either. Besides their relationship is already interesting. Lucy Liu's Watson isn't a typical sidekick, for one -- although I wonder if she will come to feel the loyal affection every other Watson has felt for their Holmes.

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Concerning if the question is about whether she slept with Tony ... If somebody was witch-hunting team Gibbs, a sign that the team was mislead and out-of-control would be all of the team members jumping into bed with each. And, please, I'm not saying it is a conclusion I personally would draw (if there had been a couple of pairings), but I do think that to a bureaucracy (the government) it would be ammunition and justification for just about any break up, demotions, retirements.

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Do you make a sundial out of a cut open potato? What is a potato clock?

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I didn't notice Amy's absence either until reading it here -- and didn't miss her!

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It's possible for Sherlock to outsmart Moriarty regularly by stopping a Moriarty crime without catching him. I hope they go in that direction rather than the comic book evil overload style villain (like Pelant in Bones) who controls the whole universe (mehya-ha-ha-ha-ha).

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Gil Thorpe annoys me. I just don't find him funny. Maybe it's because the humor is nasty or maybe because Phil changes when he's dealing with him. I realize that it's me -- but I hope he isn't in every episode now. I kind of think too that Phil, especially with Luke to verify, should have explained his objections by discussing Gil's comments in the car -- and suggest she go into it with her eyes open or stop whining and actually look for a job where she can get the respect she deserves!

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Of course, maybe I wouldn't look for and enjoy the senior-field-agent Tony so much if he didn't play the character the way he did. Don't know -- but from next episode previews (and Gibbs question in the basement) I do suspect that in Berlin Tony and Ziva slept together after Bodnar's brother's capture. Another hint of that might have been the hand-holding in the car. If I'm right, that will really drive the Tiva haters crazy -- but, anyhow, I thought this episode was fine between the two, even Ziva being annoyed Tony wouldn't talk to his insurance.

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I'm a Tony fan (and NOT a Ziva/Tiva hater at all). In the early episodes especially, Weatherly and the writers played Tony as frat-boy-ish, allowing him to be comic relief, but he was always good and senior-field-agent-ish -- like goofing around with Kate on Air Force One, Ducky and him being photographed behind the President's desk, or answering the phone as he's pretending to be a dead body ... but explaining techniques to Kate, even if he's using a bikini model on the cover of a magazine, or how quickly he determined who the body was (the officer who met with Kate and then died in his car) and notified Gibbs on the plane. But, sometimes these days he's not frat-boy-ish but just irresponsible (like not dealing with his insurance) and self-centered (like calling McGee McGoofUp) and not competent and Gibbs Junior (like Gibbs knew he'd need a cup of coffee because of McGee's rules).