@Douglas Wolfe -- I'm probably missing what your conversation is about, but this episode is the second time Penny said she loved Leonard. The first was in the hallway and more along the lines of, "You know I love you ..." and then was acknowledged as an important moment when she realized it. So, I apologize if you're not talking about that -- and no one answered, I think, because it was already referred to in one of the comments.
Lucy's shyness semi annoys me. She earns a living. She supports herself. She must shop (and was in the comic book store when it was packed). To me she indulges herself petulantly more than would be real. I do understand extreme shyness and intimacy issues and even resenting Raj pushing her about their relationship, but I find it surprising such an individual wouldn't riskingly have already embraced what she has/had with Raj as a super serious relationship in her own mind. Shyness is fear, but, if anything, it makes one more vulnerable by wanting so desperately for good things to happen. A non-institutionalized shy person would sometimes accept being uncomfortable and afraid in social settings and, (I think) would have gone to the bon voyage party. I think this is a touching situation that has been comedied to an unreal joke. They missed a chance so far for a new interesting character!
This wasn't much of an episode. I thought it was just advancing or wrapping up series story lines. I mean, the next episode Leonard will return, Leonard & Penny's relationship seems to have reached permanent couple, they show wrapped up a tired Raj-can't-talk characterization and still left open a relationship w/Lucy or ended it if the producers so choose, Amy's role in the group was better defined (rather than there as strictly Sheldon's appendage), and Howard and Bernadette (who seemed more wifely) are still moving toward starting a family. Sheldon could have been nasty-obnoxious, but they softened it by the old joke about him acting like Penny and Leonard's kid.
I just realized I took "Just Asking, But" as a continuation/a part of Sue Ann's message -- and should have addressed my answer to @Just Asking, But. I hope someday they allow us to edit our posts.
@Sue Ann -- I live in Ohio, farm country. My accident, I think (but could be off a year??), happened in 1989 on State Route 99. I do know that I was very fortunate, and have since paid attention to how some can be hurt bad and others uninjured in the same crash. When I was in high school, the oldest cousin I had, about to graduate from high school was killed with 2 of the 3 others (she was on a double date) in a car that was hit by a drunk who didn't have his headlights on and didn't slow up. The one who wasn't killed was hospitalized.
@Sue Ann -- I was in a car accident too where a car turned, to pull into a driveway, in front of me. I did hit the brakes hard so that, although I was doing the 55 mph speed limit, I didn't hit their car at anywhere near that speed. My car knocked theirs out of the way and went to the right off the road to a yard that was a couple of feet lower than the road. Again, this wasn't at such speed, but both mother and daughter were fine, although kind of in hysterics; and I broke two knee sized holes in the dash, bent the steering wheel over with my chest when I star-cracked the windshield with the top of my head and I was truly blessed to be perfectly fine without a cut, scratch, bruise on me, able to get out of the car and go over and check on them. Both cars were totaled. People can be fine, but with Tony knocked out and Ziva unable to lift her arm immediately, that implies they had some injuries at least(??).
Sorry, @Guest!, I didn't hit the e in Guest! hard enough when I typed it and the spell checking didn't catch it because it made a word.
@Gust! -- Yes, I _do_ get your point.
@Guest! -- What Gibbs did in Mexico was murder. I don't fault a fictional character who did what he did because as the audience (I mean me) it was satisfying without being real. I don't know how I'd feel if I knew someone who did that, even for the same reasons. Ziva didn't approach Bodnar as if her intent was to kill him. Your point is valid in real-life (should Luciano be praised for having Dutch Schultz murdered because Schultz intended to kill Dewey, U.S. Prosecutor?) There are things that happen in shows (and not necessarily killings) that rub me really wrong, but "fictional" Gibbs' actions don't.
If Ziva would have shot Bodnar, I think then she would have been in as much trouble as any cop who shoots a fleeing suspect (not automatically guilty but a lot of explaining to do and it better not happen again, or such). What a cop is expected to do, but not alone where he has no back-up, is pursue and restrain the suspect. That would be silly to do by one's self, especially pursuing a killer. What I'm thinking is that Ziva did pursue and try to restrain and, in the process, the suspect fell overboard and died. I don't think she's getting away with anything by not being charged.
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