@Sue Ann -- I was in a car accident too where a car turned, to pull into a driveway, in front of me. I did hit the brakes hard so that, although I was doing the 55 mph speed limit, I didn't hit their car at anywhere near that speed. My car knocked theirs out of the way and went to the right off the road to a yard that was a couple of feet lower than the road. Again, this wasn't at such speed, but both mother and daughter were fine, although kind of in hysterics; and I broke two knee sized holes in the dash, bent the steering wheel over with my chest when I star-cracked the windshield with the top of my head and I was truly blessed to be perfectly fine without a cut, scratch, bruise on me, able to get out of the car and go over and check on them. Both cars were totaled. People can be fine, but with Tony knocked out and Ziva unable to lift her arm immediately, that implies they had some injuries at least(??).
Sorry, @Guest!, I didn't hit the e in Guest! hard enough when I typed it and the spell checking didn't catch it because it made a word.
@Gust! -- Yes, I _do_ get your point.
@Guest! -- What Gibbs did in Mexico was murder. I don't fault a fictional character who did what he did because as the audience (I mean me) it was satisfying without being real. I don't know how I'd feel if I knew someone who did that, even for the same reasons. Ziva didn't approach Bodnar as if her intent was to kill him. Your point is valid in real-life (should Luciano be praised for having Dutch Schultz murdered because Schultz intended to kill Dewey, U.S. Prosecutor?) There are things that happen in shows (and not necessarily killings) that rub me really wrong, but "fictional" Gibbs' actions don't.
If Ziva would have shot Bodnar, I think then she would have been in as much trouble as any cop who shoots a fleeing suspect (not automatically guilty but a lot of explaining to do and it better not happen again, or such). What a cop is expected to do, but not alone where he has no back-up, is pursue and restrain the suspect. That would be silly to do by one's self, especially pursuing a killer. What I'm thinking is that Ziva did pursue and try to restrain and, in the process, the suspect fell overboard and died. I don't think she's getting away with anything by not being charged.
The car accident bothered me, too. It is quite possible, especially in a heavier car like a Cadillac to actually not be injured at all (or, of course, killed while the person next to you isn't injured) -- but Tony was knocked out, but not at all hurt (meaning, so why was he knocked out?) and Ziva was not only stunned and groggy but could hardly lift her arm, which was immediate, not some bruising and stiffness that developed after days and could be painful but possibly worked out (meaning that something was damaged/torn/broken/dislocated). Cars do have safety glass, so they wouldn't necessarily get cut up unless metal car parts were ripped -- but to be knocked out or unable to lift one's arm implies they were injured enough to have to recover.
If one questions whether Ziva could win a fight with Bodnar, it is probably indicative of a poorly choreographed fight. Of course it isn't automatic that a guy would always beat a girl just because each has been trained. Foreman pounded Frazier, knocking him down 6 times in 2 rounds before the fight was stopped; Foreman pounded Norton, knocking him down 3 times in the second round before the fight was stopped -- and Ali, who lost one time each to both Frazier and Norton, knocked Foreman out. If Ziva is a better fighter, Bodnar's size would make no difference. If she's a lot better, she could beat him while injured. And that's not even taking into account that Bodnar was an executive in Mossad, sitting behind a desk (picture George Smiley who always had others to do his fighting for him).
@Dadesh64 - Thanks. I checked it out. The pictures make it easy to follow too!
I don't want Holmes and Watson romantically involved either. Besides their relationship is already interesting. Lucy Liu's Watson isn't a typical sidekick, for one -- although I wonder if she will come to feel the loyal affection every other Watson has felt for their Holmes.
Concerning if the question is about whether she slept with Tony ... If somebody was witch-hunting team Gibbs, a sign that the team was mislead and out-of-control would be all of the team members jumping into bed with each. And, please, I'm not saying it is a conclusion I personally would draw (if there had been a couple of pairings), but I do think that to a bureaucracy (the government) it would be ammunition and justification for just about any break up, demotions, retirements.
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