Let's see.LaSalle was the mascot for Alabama,McGee was the mascot for MIT.Next we'll find out that Abby was a cheerleader for Tulane and Brody was a cheerleader for Michigan.And I agree with y'all that the lab tech needs to go as does the new "hacker".Geaux Tigers
I agree its Ralicity time. Although I feel Felicity shouldn't need any man to be romantically attached to. Clearly she and Barry are good friends and fellow geeks. Ray also shares more with Felicity than Oliver and quite frankly the Olicity freaks are really really annoying and one-note.
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I thought they would forgo the leg eating scene since in the comic, It was Dale that was getting eaten, and since he died way back. But turn out any character is switchable...
Ok I HATE Arizona. I think she is the biggest jerk in the world. First, Callie is a decent wife and person. I don't mean perfect but decent. Arizona loses her leg and treats Callie horrifically even though it wasn't her fault at all. Then Callie manages to stay with her until things are okay and Arizona cheats on her. Then Arizona acts contrite for like one week and starts sleeping with an intern. I hate to say it but between George and Arizona, Callie may not have the best taste in peeps. Girl needs to get out of this one. I mean what is Arizona bringing to the table except heartache, drama and more heartache.
Totally agree! Let's forget that moment when Arizona left Callie for Africa and she was totally heartbroken and then AZ decides to come back. She is SO selfish, even with Alex, she didn't vote for him because SHE wanted to do her fellowship, SHE wanted to save her marriage...what about other people's careers and relationships...and Callie was committed this entire time...who knows why! She deserves better and i hope she gets it!
Agreed she is the worst
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I think it will be a transformative moment for Mellie when she learns that her son was murdered. Her anger will bring her out of her misery and give a focus to her grief, finding her's son's killer. Will she launch an investigation of her own? Possibly. When she learns that Fitz detained the wrong man, Jake, will that stir up anger toward Fitz in that she will feel it might have been motivated by what's happening with LIv and Jake? It seems to me that this will be a turning point for Mellie and she will emerge as a stronger character and this will have consequences for everybody. Maybe she will walk away from Fitz, but that does not mean that he and Liv will get together. After all, he may end up killing LIv's father.
I think Liv's feelings for her father are more complex and ambivalent. She can never quite get away from him and has asked for his help in the past. As far as being able to kill her father I do not see her being able to do that. I know she said that people die, we move on. A lot of people say things like that but there are also deeper feelings that they may be suppressing. So if Fitz had her father killed it may very well taint their relationship in some way. It is kind of odd that you would say she loves her dad, but might not mind seeing him die and might even do it herself. It wouldn't be that easy for her to kill someone she loves and if she loves him, there would obviously be some grief on her part if he dies or is killed. So I do not see her relationship with her father in such terms as you do.
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I believe you are putting too much stock in Liv's love for her dad. Even when Harrison was murdered, what did Liv say..."People die, we move on" or something like that. Liv loves Fitz and it wouldn't shock me at all when she finds out that her dad, not her mother murdered his son AND HARRISON...she could be on board with taking Rowan down by any means necessary. Also Maya is still alive and yes she was a terrorist. But, Rowan ordered Fitz to shoot down a plane of innocent people out of pure jealousy. So, Liv might love her dad...but I wouldn't be shocked if she end up not caring if he dies. Heck, she might take him out herself or get Huck to finally do the job. Everybody else on the show is murderer. Just add Liv to the list.
Yeah, we do see the relationship in different terms. Because I'm looking at the history of Scandal writers where characters reactions to death is on a completely screwed up level. Although Cyrus loved James dearly, he pretty much blamed him for his own death. The Scandal writers tend to go with what's more shocking that what makes more sense. Rowan has been lying and playing Liv for awhile now. She doesn't know her father is a monster who killed a child, Harrison, and he's got her mom in a hole torturing her. Liv thinks her mother is dead and she didn't shed a tear when finding out Rowan told her she's dead for "killing" Fitz son. So when she learns the truth, she could very well have the same reaction and I do recall Liv telling Fitz to "do what you have to do. He's B613, he knows what he signed up for" when he told her he was going after Rowan to find out the truth about Remington. As far as her relationship with Fitz being tainted... Well when she thought he killed her mother on the plane he shot down along with 236 other people from Rowan's orders, she forgave him BEFORE she knew her mother was alive. Fitz pretty much has already forgiven her and he doesn't blame her for Maya killing Jerry. On other shows, sure things like death and murder of love ones linger on. On Scandal, angry first half of an episode, forgiven by the end of the same episode. Given the multitude of the level of evils Rowan has committed, I really don't see Liv having a problem with him being stopped. He might not even die. Given Joe Morton is a Shonda Rhimes favorite. He might actually be caught and tried for his crimes as Command.
Excellent point. "The history of Scandal writers where characters reaction to death is on a completely screwed up level... On other shows, sure things like death and murder of loved ones linger on. On Scandal. angry first half of episode, forgiven by the end of same episode" Except Mellie where her grief lingers on. But Cyrus, Liv, Jake,and Fitz would appear to be ambitious, self-serving, superficial, manipulative, narcissistic, psychopathic type characters. In other words, your typical Washington, D.C. pol. You would probably enjoy the book, This Town, by Mark Leibovich. But on the other hand the writers create contradictions in their characters like the Liv and Fitz love story. But then is it really love or excitement and part of the action? I think the latter.
I wonder why people are so quick to attack Mr Gold. I'm guessing all you need is to be a bad boy with a pretty face like Hook and you can get away with anything. This was the second time Hook blackmailed Gold threatening his relationship with Belle. Lets not forget Hook broke up Rumple's first marriage now he threatens to brake up his second one. Naturally Gold found a way to turn the tables on Hook and being Gold it was rather cruel. But Hook made numerous mistakes. If he knew Gold was lying he should have told Belle right away for her safety instead he used his knowledge for his own good (even though he was trying to help Elsa and Emma the first time). I am glad both men have stopped being love sick puppies and gone back to their darker selves. Gold wants the power of the hat to escape the dagger. It would be his just reward if the hat took away his powers. That would be a great way for the character to grow especially if Belle left him and he had to face all his enemies alone and powerless. Having never seen Fantasia I suppose I could be like all the anti Frozen crowd saying how much I hate this episode and how I will never watch again because I didn't see this one movie. But I liked it despite my ignorance of the film. I much prefer this Anna flashback to the last one. A naive loving Anna trying to deal with Rumple was much more like her movie self than the ridiculous scenes with her trying to teach David how to sword fight. And the Rumple make up was much less frightening than the young David wig. I cant wait till next week to see Regina and Emma go at it. I just loved hearing Regina say that Emma ruined her life considering that if it wasn't for her curse Emma would be a fairy tale princess raised by two loving parents, now thats the pot calling the kettle black.
Just gotta say, I am really growing tired of Jenna. Her lying and hypocritical behavior looking just like last season with Colin. She just slept with another guy, who she really doesn't even know, let alone has been on a date with, yet she's mad at Mattie for something he did 2 years ago. What is this, guy number 4 and still in high school? Really don't think she deserves Mattie. Hopefully Owen is found out to be a big player and the Virgin deal was just a pickup line. And what happened to the college admission story?
I read an article with one of the writers, where she stated that viewers would start to hate at times, some of the key characters. Well, right now I am not feeling Noah ,the eldest daughter, and Helens father. My dislike of Noah has nothing to do with the inevitable affair, but more to do with just his character, from both prospectives. Weirdly, I am not so invested in the affair itself, but all the other characters and story line's. They have now started a second possible criminal S/L with the whole fish cooler deal. While I enjoy the whole dual prospective of the start of the affair, the additional fact that both characters are possibly lying about their recall, made things kind of confusing for myself, last night. The time line for the death and last night party is unclear. Does make me look forward to next week. Must say that the only thing that Satisfaction and The Affair have in common, is the affair. And even that is a lot different as we are seeing the slow build up to the actual affair and more importantly, how it started and the impact of the cheating spouses on their families. Totally different show in my opinion. Thanks for the review Carissa.
So in simpler terms for someone like myself, who is not as well versed and doesn't read as much as you, except maybe here, while the end game maybe the same, it's fascinating to see the different perspectives on how they got there. That's why I love this show, because it's like watching 2 stories at once. Actually 3 if you take in the account they are giving the detective. I am jealous that you are already through episode 4 but I have to ask, do they continue with the dual perspectives S/L?Can't find the upcoming episodes, slide show.
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I've seen the next two episodes and I gobbled them up. I even used the slideshow only because you can see the different scenes. Didn't you think it was interesting that Noah recalled Helen pulling out either a modest red dress or a slinky brown number and Alison recalled her wearing a black, sexy yet modest dress? Those details don't even MATTER to the overall big picture of the crime, but it shows how much differently everything else can be recalled. Apparently there is some connection to Roshomon, a 50s Japanese film (and book) that detailed a crime from four perspectives. It even coined an "effect." -- "The Rashomon effect is contradictory interpretations of the same event by different people...A useful demonstration of this principle in scientific understanding can be found in Karl G. Heider's work on ethnography. Heider used the term to refer to the effect of the subjectivity of perception on recollection, by which observers of an event are able to produce substantially different but equally plausible accounts of it."
I agree that it's completely different. I'm most interested in how people perceive their pasts, which does relate to the other series because we have one perspective. When you have a fuller picture, you start to see just how differently individuals perceive things. That stuff that Noah said about a parallel universe? If you think about it, we all live in parallel universes because none of us -- not one -- shares the exact same experience as someone else, even if we were all in the same spot at the same time. I find that stuff ridiculously fascinating.
I agree that the dual perspectives are what makes this show riveting, and again not just for how they view each other, but also the people in their lives, but didn't get a little confusing when they added the element of possibly lying, especially to the detective, on how they remember the past . I get all of the intriguing S/L but I was left scratching my head on a few points. Almost comes across as a crime drama, with an affair thrown in as a base line. I like it.
If I remember correctly, it was called Telephone. Don't think I'd be any better at it today then I was way back then. So back to my previous question, no teaser for episodes 3 or 4 ?
That's what I don't like. Red vs Black? I could understand different styles but totally different colors?
Did you ever do that little game in elementary school, where the teacher gives one student a word at the beginning of the class and each child whispers it to the one next to them? By the end of the class, it's not even close to the original because of how memory changes it. I'm keenly aware of this because I capture quotes for every show. It might sound like an easy task. Listen to it, type it down and done. Except 9 times out of 10 I get something wrong, no matter how hard I try, with longer sentences more than short. They're recounting events from three months previous. If you were to try to do that, how would you fair? I know I'd fail tremendously.
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