I hate when am watching a vampire show feeling like yay here are the scary, allpowerful, undefeatable creatures i enjoy watching so much only to see their asses being whipped by some super duper strong witch. At this TVD,TO rate the vamps whom everyone was dead scared of will be naught but taken down to normal human weakness level. I like the actress that played Dahlia, she is one scary not to be messed with lady that took her character to heart and love how strong she is but i dont think i can stand her whipping the Originals butts for long. Hope they have a way of ridding her off most of that power soon.
One of the very best TV shows ever and the finale was absolutely perfect in every way. Everyone involved should be very proud at what they have achieved - 6 series of great stories that can be played over and over and over again. Thankyou all!!
I agree with Hege… Leonard hisself would have a hard time topping that. He had to be looking down and chuckling :)
By far the worst episode yet. This season has been a MESS to put it mildly. What really irks me is not just the nonsensical wesen or the get the suspect and arrest them no matter what police crap, but the fact that this show continually glosses over the fact that Adalind is a serial rapist and the writers see rape as a go to. She raped Hank by putting him under a spell and sleeping with him, and she most certainly raped Nick by using magic to make herself appear to be Juliette. This is mentioned by nobody. It's bothering nobody. In fact the writers and NBC are so cool with this arc that they created an entire Days of our Lives baby drama out of it and if you read upcoming show descriptions even intend to pair Nick with his rapist in an attempt to cure Adalind. We've had goat wesen put women under his spell to rape them and I can't even count all the sexually deviant wesen they've used. This show has more than lost it's way, it's producers and NBC have lost their minds. Why are people just ok with this crap? Because Adalind is a woman? What was once a fun show is increasingly more offensive by the week.
Oh, good. Someone else noticed and is bothered by the Hexenbiests-raping-men plot line. You might even put Renard on Adalind's rape-hit-list because technically, he was out of his mind at the time and not able to give consent. But clearly, the show doesn't think of these things in those terms so it's all fine. Renard was acting so out of character this last week, makes me wonder if Juliette didn't whammy him to get him to at least kiss her -- if not more. If so, wow, more Hexenbiest rapists on the loose.
I actually hope Lowell is a good guy, Liv deserves a hot zombie boyfriend :) Maybe he is connected to Blaine (one of his clients), but I hope he wasn't charged with befriending Liv. Friendship between Ravi and Liv is priceless Seems there are more zombies in Seattle running around.
I enjoyed tonight's ep but not a favourite. I like scary Tony in interrogation and McTrickster. The only thing that jarred for me was finding out Bishop had been stationed OS for 18 months with NSA. From the impression I have gotten from her character so far was that she was purely a desk jockey and didn't have any sort of field cred except for fire arms training as stated earlier in her tenure with NCIS. It just seemed strange to now find out this person had not only been stationed in Afganastan, but had lost a work colleague in action. That just made me go "huh?" And no, I am not a Bishop basher, I really like her character and interactions, but finding this out just didn't jibe with the character I have come to know.
Yeah, I didn't remember that either but here's the quote: "When Bishop first started at NSA, she was a deployed analyst assigned to the Middle East. Her mission was preemptive terror analysis... to predict and pinpoint who the up-and-coming players were. She was the first to ding Benham Parsa as a threat." They didn't say where she was deployed. From the conversation in this episode, I didn't get the impression that she was in Afghanistan. It's possible she was deployed to some place like Dubai (like Delilah) which would put her closer to things without being in the thick of it. She could have still worked closely with a translator (via video conference) and if her analysis lead to someone getting killed, I can see her taking it very hard (especially as a new analyst.)
I can't remember but I think she said she was in Pakistan and Afghanistan? I'm sure someone will put me right on that
She was a deskjockey there as well from what I could understand.
All analysts deployed to the theater get intensive training.
I would say very basic training. Usually people in Bishop's position spend 12-14 hours a day in the middle of a secure compound analysing the classified data and intelligence. The rest of their time is spent within restricted areas of the same compound because they know too much and cannot be at risk of being taken by the opposition. At least that's how it works in my country's military set ups.
I know people who were deployed and they got training in subjects such as firearms, combat driving, and hostage survival. They got weapons certification and carried a firearm at all times. Even so, as you say, they were strictly protected. Someone with that kind of knowledge is a very high risk target for abduction and torture, and would never be exposed to the enemy, especially in an undercover operation. That's insanity. You might say, she's not an analyst any more. But she was an analyst for years, and that coveted information is still in her brain. She needs to be under armed guard at all times in theater. The better the analyst, the more they need to be protected from the enemy. If she doesn't need to be protected, that means she was a very low level analyst with no clearances.
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I wonder if they ever consulted with NSA about how to portray an analyst???
It looks like they consulted with NSA in the beginning, but it looks like they haven't done that in a very long time.
A deployed analyst would have gotten extensive training before deployment. This is not the Bishop we have been given on the show for two seasons. They made it very clear she was terrible with firearms and, well, everything. And she was hiding her fluency in Arabic and Pashtu? This story is completely disconnected from the idealistic, cute, naive, bumbling agent we've seen for the last year.
So, it's okay for Ziva, a trained operative working in the USA as a spy to not be fluent in American English but gods forbid Bishop has an unknown skill... like Ziva suddenly speaking Russian perhaps.We had back story for Bishop having been in Afghanistan so her speaking the language makes sense.
I thought Mossad were famed for their discipline. Ziva seems to have skipped classes when that was taught, but that is fine because she is awesome.
Yeah, we knew about Ziva's languages in her first episode. We've never heard about Bishop's language skills in two seasons. And she had never mentioned being deployed to the middle east. She wasn't able to speak Urdu wiht Parsa, her main subject of study for six years.This isn't character development, and it's not storytelling. It's trying to fix your failures by wedging things into the past.
It was one of the skills she brought to the team at the outset. Bishop's been hiding her skills, even though they've dealt with terrorist before. This isn't bashing Bishop. This is bashing the terrible storytelling.
Everybody on the team, we got to see their skills gradually as the show went on. With Bishop, we never heard about all of her skills til this week's episode. And I agree, we're upset with the terrible storyline.
Yes, and they often mentioned how many languages Ziva spoke throughout the 8 years she was there.
The writer, Jennifer Corbett, confirmed on Twitter last night that it was mentioned in last seasons episode Monsters and Men that Bishop was a deployed analyst in the Middle East. Have to admit that I never picked up on that, and judging from the twitter posts I've seen neither did some other viewers.
Thanks, obviously I missed the bit about being deployed in earlier episodes. Thanks for the clarification.
Just about eveyrone missed her deployment. I think a lot of it is that she has never mentioned her deployment or language skills, so it feels very out of the blue. This isn't character developement, it's a dump truck approach. This is two years of development in one night.
Yeah, we learned that for the first time this week, along with her language skills.
Yeah.. keeping Iris out of the loop feels very contrived. Well have to see where they take it. What really starts to bug (-.-) me is that there is still no consistency in Barry's powers. Not even in the very same episode.
My theory is that his powers don't really "evolve". He got the whole package right away, but what he didn't get was the manual. He has powers that he understands now and can access them whenever he can, but the more complex/advanced things are only activated accidentally/unconsciously. It might be easiest to treat Barry's "speed" as a "semantic superpower" (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmw... which means he could theoretically do anything that can be considered to be connected to the concept of speed, limited only by his own imagination.
What you say sounds about right for the overall theme. I don't mind the lack of clear progression though. The problem I have is with same-episode-consistency (or the lack there of). Especially when the show suddenly takes a few steps backwards. I have lost count on how many times the writers have Barry be leisurely speeding about and sub-doing criminals in a literal jump-cut only to slow him down later in the same episode - just because the plot said so.
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I found this episode very enjoyable after the predictable Tony's new suit and dumpster thing. After that stupid thing I really enjoyed the rest of the episode. I loved Tony in interrogation, Want to see more of that Tony.Bishop was awesome we learned more about her tonight and could feel her sadness of her loss of a coworker and her hesitance to go out. I also really like when she need to shoot she shot. I put this episode in my top 25 of my favorites. it was a B+ episode for me
The suit thing was absolutely predictable but you gotta admit, that was a really fine looking suit. T is known for the suits and I find they get boring and I'd like to see the character more casual sometimes but I thought this one translated exceptionally well on my screen.
I really hope that Reese survives. While watching the last 15 minutes I couldn't stop thinking about what Reese told Finch last week about not being around forever. If Reese dies I will definitely stop watching this show. He is THE person of interest. It's bad enough that Carter is dead. Which be the way I'm still mourning and this episode didn't help that. She was my favorite character.Despite my worries this was a great episode. It finally gave us some insight into Reese's mind.
I loved the portion where he talked about everyone who died in the fire fight having a picture. That was a brilliant way to frame his shielded distance from people.
@Ahathithya, I had to laugh when you said Carter was your favourite. Both my mother and sister have stopped watching this show after they killed off Carter. Even though I told them the show is still interesting, they don't care. lol. I can't be angry with them or blame them, because when the Good Wife killed off "the person who I shall remain nameless, as I don't want any spoilers, but you Good Wife fans will know who I'm talking about", I stopped watching that show. And it was my favourite show! So I can understand. Of course, any time they kill off Reese, I'm done too! Cause to me no matter who is on or what machine is on, the show is ultimately about him.
I think that this was one of the better episodes this season. I still don't think it was a great episode but I didn't have an uncontrollable desire to go wash dishes or unload the dryer like most of this season's episodes have inspired me to do.. I would give it a C+ or maybe a B-
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