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First season was more a guilty pleasure bc I thought the show was more of a cheesy stereotypical gangster show but the show has def made a huge leap in my opinion throughout season 2. The way they were able to carry that insane level of tension through this last ep was pretty impressive. Even the sex scene w Tasha and Sean served the story by showing the changing of her character's mindset from victim to someone trying to take control of their situation. Tommy was great and true to character in his reaction and looking forward to rest of season.
There really was so much tension, right? I agree that this season has been an improvement over season 1. They've just elevated everything to a ridiculous level this season and it's been captivating.
I wish the writers keep the sex scenes with Tasha and Sean clean, because the reunion with Ghost should be matrimonially sacred. However, he whoring. AND ANOTHER CHARACTER BIGGER AND BETTER THAN GHOST HAS TO BE DEVELOPED FOR A LOVE INTEREST FOR TASHA - YOU ALWAYS UPGRADE.
I'm just in awe! LOL I can't wait until Saturday! He should have been knocked off Angela. He let her get too far and now if anyone kills her he and Tommy are tied to it because Greg is onto Angela and is documenting and snapping pics of her with Ghost. I think Angela wants to secretly be in Tasha's shoes...of course and I love Tasha's character. She is playing her part and she wants Ghost to pay for what he did to her but she knows they will be back together...and from the look she gave him standing in the door way as he packed...she wants that rather sooner than later..however she has to secure her family before she allows his a** to come home. She knows Ghost is buddy in her hands and Ghost knows that Tasha is an asset. So she is telling him to keep screwing her until she says stop because she is actually the brains behind Ghost but he has shut her out over the years and even more that Angela is in the picture....But trust Tasha is about to reclaim her family and save Ghost's a**....AGAIN..because obviously she was the mastermind behind taking Kanan down back in the day....kind of like Holly wants to do Ghost....Ha! I'm addicted to this show....I write too and theses writers have crazy skills and killer plots! I think Kanan could possibly be gone. His character won't last long....obviously...He is scared to get found out by Ghost.
Hmm, you really think Ghost and Tasha will get back together? The way she looked at him while he was in the bathroom showed that she still loved him, but could they ever truly rebuild their marriage?
Ruth, you sound like an idiot. Do you know Black Love, not lust, not just being there. But a real husband-wife situation. No body can tell what is between the two except. And this is entertainment, but since you're personal, massage yourself. The storyline is the same, and if it is written that it can't be successful unless it's illegit then it's no more than the occupation Ghost and Tommy have chosen. Don't get so caught - HOLLYWOOD.
Of course. Stop hating on BLACK LOVE. We weather storms. I hope the writers ARE better than that. Ethics should win in the end - WIFE TRUMPS WHORE. - Team Tasha w/Ghost & Fam
TeamTasha take your black love BS to the exit! How desperate & pathetic you championing a marriage that's dead. Ghost told Tasha hes never got over his first love and Tasha knew well enough that he settled for her. She even saw & said the two are in love. #haveseveralseats
Ur taking this way too serious
It will only be temporary. Ghost is going away for 25 to life at the end of the show. Angela is scorned and she's going to take him down.
OH he will be back! He wants his business back and Ghost & Tasha gone. I think Tommy has the politics to swing like a gate in a scenario where Ghost is gone & Kanan is back in charge. He sucks up to Kanan...butters his bread on both sides.
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Of course Angie wants to be in Tasha's shoes - it's called STATUS. TASHA'S THE WIFE!!!!!! The writers should write Tasha victorious for so many reasons, and Ghost knows what's real. Hurry and run that nostalgic mode out. New characters, new story lines.
Did I see Chiyo in the trailer for Batman v Superman or was that someone else?
Why did they have to show us another scene of two women naked in bed together again? Can't they just stop with the homosexuality on this show?
The Bible IS fact. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=...
That's a statement of faith, not fact. If you're going to complain about something you don't want to see, I recommend taking Terrie's advice below. Treat it like a commercial and tune it out, or don't watch. Peace out.
Terrie, you're saying that Ryan is trying to force what he believes on people. Isn't that what the gay organisation, writers and supporters of the gay lifestyle are trying to do with people who do not support the lifestyle? They keep integrating gay story lines into every show possible so that we who do not agree with the lifestyle are forced to watch it every time. So why is it okay for them to force what they believe as acceptable on us, yet we are wrong to "force" what we believe is acceptable on "them". Seems to be a double standard here.
My question is, are those scenes actually in the book, or did the producers use license and put them in for "politically correct" reasons? I would like any book reader to answer that question for me. If it's in the book then the writers are being true to the book so I can't and won't complain. But if they added it in just for shock effect, then I will be annoyed.
in the book Margot's preference is female companionship, I would say that the TV Show is being true to the book vice exploiting or sensationalizing gay relationships.
Thank you Ted for your information and kind response.
Yes Margo was gay in the Hannibal novel (which this sequence is based on). Alana is subbing for Margo's lover from the book. The womb removal was added but not the forced sperm sample. She was going to use it on herself since her lover was not a good choice due to steroid use.
Thank you rarpsl for your kind response. In the book was the foetus also in a pig? And was it dead as well?
Who said he wasn't repulsed by the eel in the man's mouth or the baby being inside a pig? I was repulsed by all three events. I respected Dr Bloom and remember when she was with Hannibal and I was hoping she was going to be with Will. All of a sudden she is into women now, like it's the norm for her? hmmm
An eel swam into a man's mouth. A baby was inside a pig. Yet you were repulsed by two women being in bed together?
I know. It's actually quite funny.
Yes because as I've said before those things are supposed to be looked at with disgust yet we're supposed to look at homosexuality as being perfectly fine.
It may be looked upon in disgust by you but not everyone thinks as you do and, quite frankly, they don't have to think like you. Stop trying to force what you believe on people! If you don't like it don't watch!
No, you have it backwards. All that anyone that is gay wants is to be accepted for who they are. You can't control who you develop those kinds of feelings for. It's fine and it's absolutely your right that you don't like or support gay people. But what they don't need is someone like yourselves telling them they are wrong and trying to force what you believe on them or making them feel inferior with your hate filled rhetoric. As for it being on TV, as I already said, you have the option of changing the channel and not watching but obviously neither of you do that or you wouldn't be here complaining about it.
People DO choose to be attracted to people of the same gender. They just use the lie that they can't help it because it makes it easier for them. I have said before that if I changed the channel how would I know that I didn't miss any important plot details.
If you're that invested in the plot details then learn to overlook what you don't like or either don't watch...........it's that simple............
TV shows are supposed to be accommodating to me, the viewer, not the other way around.
When did you choose to be attracted to the opposite sex?
I didn't need to. I don't want to voluntarily sin against God. And stop using that stupid "heterosexuals can't choose who they love so that must mean homosexuals can't choose who they love" argument.
You didn't need to? You just validated the argument you called stupid. I pity you.
God created everyone. He never makes anyone who can't help being a sinner. Therefore, homosexuals are choosing to sin.
I'm not here complaining about it. I'm here discussing it based on a post that was initially made. And yes I have a right to change the channel if I want. But it seems there will come a time that we might have to turn the TV completely off, because that is all that is being shown these days. EVERY SHOW, whether it's about a nun, a priest, a criminal, a saint, it doesn't matter, the writers/producers manage to get in a gay storyline. It could be a gruesome murder, and either the killer or victim or their brother or cousin or dog or something is gay; it's like they MUST put someone in as gay. And most times I don't say anything, I watch the show if I'm inclined. But then I see where, if someone mentions that it's not their lifestyle, they get bullied on, saying they're homophobic, being called names because they don't support the lifestyle. So they (we) are the ones being forced now to believe what they believe, and to stop believing in what we believe. The world has surely turned around. Anyhow, on with the show. I just commented based on an initial post and I'm glad I can get to share my comments without it being deleted or without being browbeaten. I do like the show Hannibal and will continue to watch it, and hopefully someone else takes up the show.
Not to forget that most of the shows are based on current lifestyle...and the homosexual population is increasing rapidly today...so they just try to put as much reality in the show as they can...there is always a probability that you may find atleast one person in your life that is homosexual.
No, I don't. And if I did meet someone who was homosexual I would make it a point to never have ANYTHING to do with them.
I didn't see the gay sex in this episode, there's nothing wrong with it, I've seen it in movies sometimes, but the WAY they did it in the last episode seemed creepy. It had a very dark tone to it. The thing that REALLY was creepy was the eal into the man's mouth. Now THAT had sexual overtones and was WAY over the top. Mason in his entirety is a sexually deviant monster. That's what is disgusting to me.
Margot was canonically a lesbian in Thomas Harris' books. And they've shown graphic sex between men and women so who cares if they show two women in bed together? It's the nicest thing that happened in the episode.
I don't care if canonically she's a lesbian or not in the books. I don't want to see people of the same gender having sex or have it implied that they had sex or show them just after they've finished having sex.
Well you're going to have a difficult time watching television because that happens and it's going to be shown. Good luck with the homophobia.
I loved the Lucy bit where she opened the door when Dutch said John was in trouble. Classic! I'm watching Dark Matter as well and I think the problem with Dark Matter is we don't know what's real and because of that we can't commit to liking a character. Because we don't know much about them we can't relate to them as much as we do with Killjoys since from the first episode we were keyed in straight away on the premise. Dark Matters has way more people and more complex characters so it's still trying to explain itself which is why people are preferring Killjoys. Not that I'm saying Dark Matter is rubbish, its yet to establish itself in a way we can relate to, just like the crew, we don't know what's going on.
That's a very fair assessment of Dark Matter. I never meant to imply it's a terrible show, only that I'm not as invested in the characters. You're right though, the Killjoys might have secrets but at least we know who they are. These days an audience has so many television show options, if a series doesn't hook us in 3 or 4 episodes it's on to the next. I plan to finish up Dark Matter by binge-watching the second half. That's how I watched last season of Walking Dead, which bored me week to week.
That's what I was thinking like why would she save Angela's number on her phone?
That really bothered me for some reason.
Agree completely with the review! Very well put. It was also nice to not have any artistic, but exhausting camera pictures. As much as I usually like the cinematography, it was getting tiresome and confusing during the last episodes. Having (almost) every important character in one place was great, too. Kudos to everyone involved. I actually laughed out loud in the end. While Will was all "I'm going to be a better man, I cut Hannibal out of my life, not interested in him anymore" .... Hannibal, cunning as he is, made sure Will would not get him out of his system that easily. The expression on Will's face was priceless.
Thank you very much, San! I agree - they scaled back on the artistic scenes this episode, because it really didn't needed it. The scenes were visceral and gross enough without being surreal. I laughed at that scene too. One of my friends sent me this message when it happened: "Will: I never want to see you again. I don't even want to know where you are."Hannibal: Hmph. Oh yeah? Boom!! I surrender MFs!!!Will:........sh*t...."
Man, Why is this show SO damn underrated? Ever since getting a new showrunner and switching the focus to the building of the railroad in season 3 it has been one of the most solid shows on TV, Yet you can hardly find a single review or anything for it now. I think most critics just wrote it off after the first season and now won't give it a chance, if they did they would see a completely different show, One with confidence and direction, and excellent focused writing.
Agree to disagree I guess. The show is much worse since the changeover, and the writing is to blame. If its more consistent, which is debatable in my view, it is also a lot less ambitious. The reason critics have written it off is that it is completely pedestrian and has no further reason to exist. The first season or so was flawed TV with big, beautiful ideas on its mind. An admirable failure that could have gone onto greatness. Season 3 onward is a plodding, boring, unconvincing farce. If this show is remembered by anyone at all it will be as an enormous missed opportunity.
Totally agree. This desperate clinging on to the Swede has become an embarrassment. Clearly the writers were terrified that they could not write something original of their own. The rest of the show has been a meandering aimless mess. And they turned a show about a gunslinger into a show about an uncertain pacifist last season. Why in gods name would they do that? And why have a relationship with no chemistry and not even put any effort into the character of Naomi. All wasted screen time. Three episodes on hanging Ruth? Pointless.
I binge watched the entire season. The first 2 or 3 episodes were pretty disjointed, but I am a David Duckovney fan and continued on. The show got better and better, the characters settled in and it did become much more cohesive. Can't say I'd watch it without David, but it eventually became a good show.
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