It was a refreshingly good episode ,kinda gave me the feel of old supernatural episodes. The moment when the darkness infected zombies did not hurt Sam i knew he too was infected.The twist that Amara was darkness was a good one.Nice review .Liked the reference to "Jus in Bello" which is one of my favorite episodes. Agree that Cass and Crowley need better storylines than last season.Liked dean's reference to 28 days later situation.It was a promising start.Looking forward to the next episodes and hope this season is spectacular.
"Jus in Bello" is a great ep! Definitely a very promising start, and I'm hoping the season stays strong as we move along.
All throughout the episode I kept saying in my mind I have a feeling Lance is going to bite the dust this season.So im pretty sure that headstone will indeed be his.
A great solid start but god damn did I roll my eyes towards the end when Dean asked Sam how everything was.... couldn't Sam just say something like "damm bro i just got some blood from these darkness goons all up on my face!!" lol.here we go with more keeping secrets and lying to each other crap.If sam starts to wear turtlenecks I'll riot ! And yes please! I hope Lucifer is outta that stupid cage already
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Yeah, I was hoping Sam would say something too. I just hope that's a secret revealed in next episode. And yeah, it would be cool to see Lucifer return!
This wasn't the worst but certainly not the best. An average episode. There were a few things that annoyed me. McGee got annoyed that Tony didn't divulge his relationship woes with him didn't go anywhere. I was expecting a conversation between them where Tim told him that he was hurt because he thought they were close and that would have tied in with the Tony story of not "belonging" anywhere. I don't know if the resolve was cut for time or they never bothered to write it but it left McGee looking like a whining child. Also on the subject of Tony, I felt these writers made him take a step back into the jerk area again. The whole wanting to be related to royalty etc just made him look superficial and annoying and I think he has evolved a bit since then. The scene where he was discussing his family was good and I would have looked a little more from Gibbs than stone cold silence. Just a comment like "you belong here" or something is all that was needed. And lastly, I like Bishop, I think she is fun and lovely, but the writers did her a disservice this episode. As soon as I saw her go to the house and leave her phone on the desk I through to myself "well the Bishop haters are going to have a field day". If she sneezes they come out and complain about how badly she does it, but to make an error like this ... she might as well have had the scissors plunged in her back. In relation to the idea of Jeanne coming back, I like her until the episode where they were rock climbing and she said "If it win you have to tell me you love me" ... this sort of thing makes my skin crawl. If you have to force someone to I love you when they are not ready then you just look needy and weak (IMO). I like the relationship and I liked Tony with her as I think it was the only real love he has experienced (I think he never really found out if he "loved" Ziva because they never managed to have a real relationship as lovers). I hope that when she comes back she has realised that Tony was doing his job and they can either move forward as a couple, or it can be the catalyst for Tony to move forward with someone else in his life be it Zoe or a new lover.
That 4some with my gal gaga was the hottest thing I've seen on tv since all the great nudity in Spartacus!! .
Charlie followed the van to the FBI building. And I have to say I found this episode a little boring. I have been a huge fan of the show but I must admit the magic is gone.
Thanks for the explanation. I missed that.
I am happy that Arrow is finally back. I enjoyed the season premiere, but I wasn't wowed. It was strange seeing Oliver and Felicity living in Suburbia, and Oliver being a master of omelettes. It is a good thing that Thea and Laurel went to Oliver to ask him to come back and help save Star City, it really needs him. It seems it never really lost Felicity, as she was always partly there. I was a little surprised to find out that was the one that couldn't let go. Even if Oliver does ask Felicity to marry him I am pretty sure that she is going to say no. Damien Darhk is a great villain, and I think Neal McDonough was the right casting choice. I never read the comics, so I don't know how he is able to have those mystical powers. I am looking forward to seeing how the story unfolds though. I am not completely sold on Thea as Speedy, maybe she will grow on me. I never suspected that Lance would be helping Damien Darhk, that was a shock. I seriously doubt that Felicity died. Her character is so popular, I just don't see it happening. I think Laurel would be more likely than Felicity, but I guess time will tell. I did miss seeing Malcolm, and I know that I wasn't the only one. Hopefully we will see him next week.
Amy, Considering Arrow's track record, this first episode did get off to a good start. Lance being the mole working for the lead villain is a good twist and will put him in direct conflict with Laurel. A lighter tone? I agree with Carrisa here. Arrow is the type of show that can't have a lighter tone, especially considering the forces of evil they must fight. Likes: The Green Arrow is Born! Glad they didn't make uswait for that. Armed with a new suit and a new sense of purpose, Oliver Queen now understands that the crusade he originally started on will never end. Damien Darkh. Great casting choice and great to see his no nonsense approach to things. But don't know his endgame though. Glad to see the writers are being serious and having some real fight scenes with Red Arrow/Speedy. That was a major plus. And Thea going really dark and out of control I rather like. Malcolm did warn Oliver that the Thea they would get back from the Lazarus Pit would not be the same Thea they originally lost. Although the first episode didn't overwhelm you, (and no Malcolm Merlyn was a major minus) I thought it was a good one overall. I believe Malcolm (and Nyssa) appear in episode 3 the Restoration. Can't wait!
Neal McDonough was really owning the "for the evulz" aspect of the role of Damien Darhk, wasn't he? He was fantastic. Darhk and HIVE present an interesting contrast to R'as Al Ghul and the League of Assassins. Darhk and HIVE seem far more interested in evil for evil's sake, while the LoA, surprisingly enough, isn't. While the LoA has a definitely place for honor and a code of behavior, Darhk really couldn't be bothered by anything so childish as that. Or petty things like morality. Regarding Ollie and Felicity in Suburbia: why do TV writers seem to have this really weird view of suburban life? It skews towards downright creepy sometimes! Suburbanites are not Stepford Wives! Honestly, it's really rather funny. I still think the owner of the gravestone will probably be Quentin Lance, given how things are shaping up in the premiere and the fact that on TV and in movies, redemption equals death.
FINALLY, Teddy gets some credit! Season after season we see Rayna walk all over him without showing ANY appreciation for the fact that he always did right by her and his daughters (well daughter). it brought tears to my eyes FINALLY seeing her stan up for him and let him know what a good husband and father he was/is. don't get me wrong, Teddy is not perfect an he's done some shady stuff but the dude always took care of his family. always! at this point, i'm just tired of juliette. she's just exhausting. no one can save her from herself. she's a hopeless case. she has zero redeemable qualities. but who else was surprised that LUKE of all persons was used to TRY and show her the errs in her ways. i thought for sure they would end up sleeping together. i feel like for deacon and scarlett has to understand it would be tough for him to accept, they grew up together and she saved his life and because of that, through no fault of his, she is now going to die. that's a tough pill to swallow.
Completely agree about the show's treatment of Teddy. Was also surprised a couple of episodes ago when Rayna was taking a superior tone to Luke because she felt he wasn't sufficiently mindful of Juliette's psychological state. Okay, Luke could have been more thoughtful, but his primary focus these days is getting his new label off the ground, not second-guessing his artists' personal lives. And for Rayna to lecture him after she dumped him on the day of their wedding??
It was a good episode . Damien darkh seams like a good villian. His association with lance came as a surprise.Wonder how laurel will react on finding about her father and darkh.Just hoping felicity does not get axed. Liked how she could not leave behind her friends and helping people.
Well, I started in season 3 and just prior to today's episode, I watched the first two season on Netflix. I thought they were the best by far! He has to have an edge and I believe it was when he was fighting Deathstroke and he told Oliver he knew what he was fighting for and Oliver did not. It was as if he was drug back into being on the team and he has no purpose, no reason other than to fight for his city. So the death at the end of the show, which as much as I hate to see any of the main characters get axed, was brilliant cause now we are all going to be wondering who it is going to be and when. Of course they will save it for the end of the season I suspect. But Oliver has got to get his edge back because if this first episode is what we are in for this season, then we might as well watch Days of Our Lives. The Flash definitely has the edge so far to start the season. And of course Ray will be back around as will Sara for Legends of Tomorrow. Speedy/Red Arrow just wasn't too believable. She was better off as spoiled Thea whining all the time in my opinion. And I agree with what someone else wrote that Barry was there at the grave for support so I highly doubt it was Felicity. Besides, she brings something the show needs and I think it would be devastating to the show to drop her or Laurel.
Brian,This episode was good and solid, considering Arrow's track record in previous season premieres. Felicity can and must go. Olicity never worked in the long term in the beginning and it won't work long term now. Felicity's character is not central to the show, but Laurel's and Thea's are. And while we are on the subject, if they continue to make Diggle a whiny woman type, then he can go as well and he won't be missed. Considering what we saw of Diggle last night makes me miss the times when Sara would put down his army training and punk him out. Sara owned Diggle and Diggle was actually afraid of Sara. Arrow won't have a lighter tone this season or the next, and in total, I like what the writers have done thus far with introducing Damien Darkh and H.I.V.E. early. Arrow S4 can be great if the following are done: 1. Kill Olicity one and for all 2. Develop Damien Darkh and H.I.V.E. 3. Continue the dark tone of the show 4. Give a good dose of Malcolm Merlyn and the League of Assassins the way they were meant to be. The League and H.I.V.E. are natural enemies and Team Arrow is currently outmanned, outgunned, and outclassed and no match for Damien Darkh's mysticism or his GHOST warriors. So at some point Oliver will need Malcolm's help (AGAIN) if he is to defeat the dark (pun intended) forces of Damien Darkh and H.I.V.E.
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