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I meant you COULD* convert a fan. haha
As much as it pains me to say, I agree with the others in that Finn and Quinn need to happen. Their break-up was so abrupt that everything was kind of left up in the air. I think they should be together in order to play out the rest of their relationship and deal with all the feelings they clearly still have for one another.
BUT hopefully Finn and Quinn break-up soon enough so that he can be with Rachel. However if Finn and Rachel do get back together, I really want him to work for it this time. It seems like Rachel always puts in more of an effort where Finn is involved. Granted thats how here character is, an over-achiever, but nonetheless, i really want her to sit back and have finn chase her for once. Yes I do realize that he sort of chased her when she was with Jesse back in season 1, and it culminated in him singing Jesse's girl, but that was pretty much it. This time I would want to actually see him put in more of an effort.
Anyways since this is a Fuinn thread, i should get back to what I was sating earlier. It sucks for all us Finchel shippers, but Finn and Quinn need to happen.
As for people saying that Quinn brings out the worst in Finn. I don't think that is the case. Both girls bring out something different. Since he is the quarterback of the football team and she was head cheerleader, sterotypes would dictate that they should be together and it seems to make sense for everyone else. thats not to say that she is a bad person/a bitch. Obviously Quinn has been through a lot and as such she wants to have the normal teenage experiences. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that.
I agree with others in that Rachel represents the inner loser that finn does not want to become. lets face it no one really wants to admit it, but being popular matters to some degree to a majority of poeople. Finn just needs to be able to get over caring what others think. Although we have seen him overcome this a few times in the past, he never really sticks with it. In order to be with Rachel he needs to get over this fear.
However in the mean time, like I said before, It kills me to say but Fuinn is definitely on.
Aly, thanks for that. It's nice to see a "finchel" fan be so open-minded about Fuinn. I am the same with Finchel, I don't mind them, and I was happy to see them together. But, at the end, I believe Finn has more chemistry with Quinn than Rachel. ANd I ultimately believe, for many reasons(I have expressed before) that they belong together. I feel as though Rachel did change Finn in a way. He began to feel that "inner loser" and not care so much about his popularity at one point. And, I think that he will eventually get into Quinns head about how popularity shouldn't matter. And like you said, there is nothing wrong with wanting to be popular, everyone wants to feel popular at times. But, like I said..I think Finn will change that about Quinn in the upcoming episodes..
(watched tonights episode)
I guess Ryan Murphy isn't giving up on the love triangle after all.. :/ I don't understand why the producers can just let go of it for a little. I would love to see the extent of Fuinn with out the interruption of Rachel! Is having a serious relationship boring with out having another love interest on the side?
Many people might look at Quinn in this episode as a total bitch. But I saw something way more in depth then that. The girl is hurting, and I can't quite point out what it is, but it was obvious when she was talking to Rachel during rehearsal. Quinn is a very insecure girl, and it was obvious in this episode. I think the girl is afraid of something. Is she afraid of ultimately loosing Finn? Well, that was kind of obvious, because of her not-so nice self in tonights episode.
.. I was going to finish, until I read this, and basically it just sums up what I have to say about what I was going to attempt(haha)
Okay so here are my thoughts on this episode. I may reiterate a lot of what MartinusMiracula posted, so just bear with me. Also, this will probably end up being really long. I'm going to start off with the Faberry scene at the piano, because honestly that is probably where the most happened, and what everyone is focusing on at the moment. Was Quinn being harsh with Rachel tonight? Definitely, there is no denying that. However, it wasn't Quinn being her usual catty self. Everything about that scene stemmed from fear. Quinn's insecurities were in full display tonight, more so than ever before. Some may see Quinn's speech about her future with Finn as sweet, for those who like Fuinn anyway, because it shows that she truly loves him and thinks about a future with him. Others see it as her being delusional, and another moment that they can use to show that she's just using Finn. That she really doesn't love him, she just loves the idea of him and what he can give her. I for one don't see it in either of those ways.When she was talking I didn't see happiness or her being vindictive. To be completely honest I saw sadness, desperation, and fear. Not the most pleasant of thoughts, but that's what I saw. To refer back to that tumblr post, she did indeed lose everything faster than she gained it. She lost the Cheerios, she got pregnant, gave up her baby, lost her perfect family, as fake as it may have been, and she lost Finn. One of the things that I'll always remember about "Preggers" is what she said to Finn. "I really thought I had a shot at getting out of here." It sounded like someone who already knew just how much she would lose. I also think that is why she turned down Puck so fiercely because he represented the inevitable to her. She saw herself becoming a Lima Loser, and with Finn she saw something good from her "old" life that would always be there for her, even after she lost it all. Again that's why I think we saw such relief when he came up to her at the end of that episode and told her he was gonna do everything he could to be a good father. I don't excuse her lies, and I never will, but I truly think that she didn't know what else to do at the time. She didn't know a way that would realistically end with her keeping Finn after he found out the truth. However, that is a story for another day.Back to my original point. The line tonight that really cemented everything for me was after Rachel said I'm not giving up, it's not over between us. Quinn said, "Yes it is! You're so frustrating!" Again, she didn't say it with a snarl or malice, she sounded scared and frustrated like she said. We saw such a contrast from the girl who truly thought she was going to get out of Lima, maybe go to a school out of state on a scholarship, have lots of friends, and make something of herself, to a girl who sees a future where she becomes a real estate agent in her hometown, and a husband who owns a tire shop. What teenager thinks of her future that way? In such realistic terms? When she told Rachel this is reality, not a bubble of fantasy, she just sounded so hard and jaded, completely devoid of emotion. She doesn't believe she can be what she wants to be anymore, and that is what is truly heartbreaking. Quinn is scared of Rachel. There is no other way to put that. Rachel went after Finn once before when they were together, and in the simplest terms, she ultimately "won". Now, she's standing in front of Quinn basically telling her that she's going to do the exact same thing again. Quinn got back Finn after everything that happened between them. She got back someone who was a good part of her life, someone that she's happy with, someone that she, YES even loves. However, she is also aware of the very real possibility that Finn will leave her for Rachel once more because he does still love Rachel. I'm not a blind shipper who won't recognize these things. He loved Rachel, and feelings don't go away that fast, and the perfect case in point is Finn and Quinn. Now when I say that Quinn is scared of losing Finn, I don't mean she's scared of losing her Prom King, or her ticket to popularity, or any of the other things that people accuse Quinn of wanting Finn for. I mean that she is scared of losing someone she loves, again. Now I will admit that even as a Fuinn shipper, I was still skeptical of whether or not she loves him, but tonight showed me that she does, and I'm happy for that, if nothing else. I also think that that is why she confronted Finn and straight out asked him if he wanted to be in this relationship or not. I think she was silently begging him to reassure her that he's in this with her. She wanted someone to reassure her to herself. Also, as much as people want to deny it, I think Quinn was also helping Rachel. Again she was harsh with her, there is no denying that, but she was basically telling her that she's better than Lima. She has an actual shot of achieving her dream, as big as it may be. Now for Quinn, I don't think she has big dreams anymore. I could argue that her only dream right now is to be Prom Queen. Something that nobody cares about once their out of high school. So again as harsh as it was, I think Quinn snapped some sense into her. Emphasis on some. As for the rest of the Finn and Quinn scenes from tonight's episode. I was a bit disappointed that the hand holding only occurred after she saw Rachel looking at them, but again I think it was Quinn begging Rachel to please back off. It wasn't her parading it around, like "Look at what I have Rachel!" I just think all of Quinn's actions tonight were done for another reason than she has ever done things before. That's where all the looks came from when she saw Finn staring at Rachel during her solo, or saw them hugging and smiling after their performance. She's seeing history repeat itself so to speak, only without the pregnancy this time.I just don't understand how people can fault Quinn for fighting for Finn so to speak. When Rachel fights for Finn it's because well she truly loves him, and they're supposed to be together, Quinn is just in the way, etc., etc., etc. Well Quinn is fighting for Finn to, and not because she sees him as a status symbol, but because she truly loves him too. I just think people don't want to admit that or are unwilling to see it because it invalidates their ship somehow, and that, I will never get.It looks like the triangle has been firmly put forth again even though I was hoping it wouldn't be. I guess all we can do now is see what happens. I realize that this has been extremely long, I just think that tonight's episode gave more depth to the character of Quinn than we have been getting in the past, which is surprising to me because it is a Ryan Murphy penned episode. I realize that I may be giving the show too much credit, thinking that they are giving a story with this much depth to Quinn, but I hope I'm not giving them too much credit, and that they actually are setting up a good story for her. There is so much potential with this character, and if I'm being completely honest I see her heading for a breakdown of epic proportions. Whether Finn is there for her after everything is said and done shall remain to be seen.If you made it through all this I applaud you. Hehe
that post was perfect
when she was crying
i was just like "adklajdlaj my bb"
and you can tell that the pregnancy did actually affect her and omg there are no words
i still hate fuinn tho
I LOVE FUINN, SO GLAD THEY ARE BACK. THEY CLEARLY STILL HAVE FEELING FOR EACHOTHER. IM ON FUINN HIGH LOL TO THE PEOPLE SAYING SHE'S USING FINN TO BE PROM QUEEN IS JUST EXCUSES - HATERS.
FINCHEL *YAWNS* IS SOOO BORING.
I WANT A FUINN ENDGAME
Rachel is so deseperate like jeez ease up off Finn, if they are meant to be (which I dont think) then it will happen. Quinn had every right to voice her opinion, Rachel was doing it too she just got upset lol.
Quinn and Finn needed to resurface becuase there was no kind of closure in season one, they barely spoke to eachother but always gave "hi" looks at eachother which showed they still had feelings for one another. I like Fuinn I hope the writers give them a chance like Finchel. If they do I would be happy and if Finchel happens again atleast I can say Fuinn had their try.
this is my favorite moment from last night:
lol he loves rachel tho
FUINN WILL DIE