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I don't think that GGFan76 was comparing the two acts of villainy. Only that the writers say one thing and seem to show us another.  I have observed that how some shippers interpret those scenes or if they choose to believe the writers in a particular instance seems to reflect who they ship. 

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Tinatrina

Because the show itself didn't show Dan trying to keep Chuck and Blair apart but shippers were making up imaginary tales to fit their fantasies. 

Blair knew that Chuck didn't send that video on the day of her wedding and that wasn't the reason she didn't leave with him. That alone is proof that Dan didn't keep Chuck and Blair apart or that the video came between them. On the day of the wedding, Dan left Chuck, Blair & Serena alone in the hotel room. And I don't remember a scene of him mentioning Chuck ever again.

Let's not forget that he was the one to freaking bring them together in episode 10. Not only that, he brought Chuck up first in their conversation then literally put them together. And in episode 11, he kept telling Blair not to marry Louis knowing that Chuck would be the default choice otherwise, 

In episode 12 he thought Chuck was behind her arrest seeing as Chuck was at the scene of the crime and wasn't even trying to intervene plus Chuck had threatened him in the previous episode. But even when he jumped into conclusions and accused Chuck (who was scheming with the priest, by the way), Beatrice immediately cleared things up with Blair so she knew Chuck wasn't behind it.

In episode 13, when Georgina first accused Chuck of being behind the video, Dan immediately came to his defense, saying that it wasn't in Chuck's nature to do something like that. But it wasn't till they all agreed that it waw Chuck that he appeared to go along with it (even if he used debatable language like, "I can't believe Chuck did that" that could have two different meanings). He was wrong there and should have fessed up. 

Dan isn't a perfect angel who never does wrong but he wasn't trying to keep CB apart regardless of what some shippers think. 

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Tinatrina

I'm not even one to go on and on about abuse in the Chair relationship but he forcibly grabbed her, yelled "you're mine" and punched a window that left a cut on her face. Say what you will but that's one very ugly scene and it's no surprise that some will interpret that as abuse. 

 

And about the video, GGFan76 once argued that Dan had failed Blair as a friend by not trying to stop the wedding. So I really hope you're not now saying that sending the video was an act of villainy.

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Tinatrina

One last thing, I can't even fathom some people trying to villainize Dan's acts while supporting someone who gleefully acted to keep Blair trapped in a loveless marriage. Makes no sense. As they say, take the log out of your eye before removing the speck from another's. 

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Tinatrina

One last thing, I'm not saying you can't criticize other characters just because the one you love is a villain but trying to claim another character is this horrible, evil, machiavellian character who deserves to die because you don't like him while supporting and loving the character who's the real villain of the show is off. It's okay not to like Dan, blow up all his faults and criticize him but it's not cool to twist everything he does just to bring him down to Chuck's level or worse, make him out to be someone he is not (like saying he switched the paternity results lol) just because it fits your shipper preferences. 

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Aint-born-typical

TinaTrina, but Dan did say that Chuck was right about wanting to keep Chuck and Blair apart.   Whatever.  I don't care. I'd rather rewatch Chuck, something that Josh Schwartz has actually gotten right for the most part, rather than debate which fanbase is driven crazier by the inconsistent GG writing and totally contradicting statements from the writers trying to clarify their own writing. 

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Tinatrina

No. I don't take that as an admission because the first thing he said was, "That's not how it happened and you know it." But Chuck kept insisting and I took that as him not wanting to engage in the CB drama and leaving the scene like, "I give up! You're right." 

 

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Ggfan76

Guys- I am not comparing the two in anyway. I was making the point that some people take on board that the writers have said that D wasn't intentionally trying to keep CB apart. If that's truth because the writers said it then the writers also said Chuck wasn't being abusive to Blair. Either you believe the writers and believe ALL that they say or don't believe them at all. I think it's hypocritical to take them at their word for their comment about Dan and not about Chuck - it's one or the other

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Aint-born-typical

So, GGFAN76, which one is it for you?  Do you believe them?

I don't frankly because in both cases I think they flatly contradicted what they wrote.   Despite this fact however, I think we are not changing our preferences: you still ship Chair and I sort of still don't. 

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Dairisflawless
Who says I have to make a choice and believe either one or the other side? Erm not sure, since one thing that comes from the writers can be more believable than some other. So who says I have to believe everything they say just because I bought the "more believable" one?
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