Julie Plec called Damon "Buffy"
You wouldn't call Buffy a hero at certain points? I mean she did put her life on the line to help and save the innocent. Yes it's her job but she could of chose to say screw being a slayer and try to live a normal life. The case with killing dawn to save the world wasn't the best case scenario in Buffy's mind. She was trying to come up with a plan that they all survived. But when that didn't happen she gave up her own life for her sisters. And even though it was hard for her to kill angelus. She did eventually make the tough choice after he became normal again and sacrificed him & her love for him for the fate of the world. I'm not saying all of actions were heroic but out of all the good she did. She would have to be regarded as a hero in some aspect.Posted 6/13/2012 1:55:50 PM #
You wouldn't call Buffy a hero at certain points? I mean she did put her life on the line to help and save the innocent
In a sense that was a selfish.
Yes it's her job but she could of chose to say screw being a slayer and try to live a normal life.
let's see what we know:
- From the episode where she is hospitalized we know that she used roleplay superheroes as a kid.
- WE know that she has a trauma of failing to save her childhood friend.
- We know that her parents divorced around the time she became a slayer.
- We know that she is deeply scarred by her parent divorce and her biggest fear was that she was the one at fault for that.
put two and two together and you have hero complex. For Buffy, the whole "chosen one, the awesome righteous slayer of all things bad" was comfort. She built up a circle of friends who would "appreciate and agree with her" as that shrink said in Season three and her reasoning for that most likely is very similar to why Cordelia surrounded herself with people - "its better to be alone with someone than to be alone by yourself" as Cordy said in "invisible girL". So she built up the whole "Superhero persona" and a group of people that she wanted it to be appreciated by.
But the real reasons beyond slaying was that it was an escape. As shown in "Ted" And various episodes, the thrill of it is used by Buffy to relieve her stress and inner turmoil. Slayers do not just "slay because its their duty". They do because its like a drug for them. The thrill of hunting, dancing with death, etc.
We have seen that Buffy had quite a lot of VERY selfish and egoistic reasons behind her actions and how she used the whole "well i am righteous and infallible" mantra to justify her actions.
Thats why Faith unnerved Buffy so much. Faith was everything Buffy did not want agree being in her(and vice-versa for Faith). All the traits and things that clashed with her "I am the hero" thing. We even saw the parallels on how Faith went on the whole "i am evil villain" route to ALSO comfort from past experiences, guilt and turmoil, which paralleled buffy's route. The whole second half of S3 is them both being destructive against each other in trying to prove each other wrong - Faith trying to prove that Buffy is just a mask and Buffy trying to prove that Faith is just a mask.
And in the end they sort of were proved right BOTH, since Buffy, even if she does not agree with that back then, has all the "dark side" that is displayed by Faith and Faith, even if it hurts her, had all the "good" that is displayed by Buffy.
Season Five and Onward, however, Buffy is self-conscious of how she is and by the seventh season she has completely adapted to authoritarian "needs of many outweigh the needs of few" view where power means authority.
That clash of who Buffy is and who she pretends to be is the main source of the struggle between her and everyone. Its the source of why she is essentially rejected by them - Buffy that is is very far away from "Buffy that appeared to be". No one in the group are how they want to be or how they pretended to be. They can't deal with who they are themselves , let alone with how Buffy is.
thus instead of more "friends-like" approach, you have more allies-like approach.
The case with killing dawn to save the world wasn't the best case scenario in Buffy's mind. She was trying to come up with a plan that they all survived. But when that didn't happen she gave up her own life for her sisters.
Ouch this is the WORST possible argument one can pick up since that whole situation was essentially Buffy's suicide. It was on some level about Dawn, but essentially it was all about Buffy.
Dawn represents her the Buffy that did not get broken and torn by tragedies and her own destiny. She is similar in behavior to Season One-Buffy and pre-season-one Buffy. Buffy sees herself in Dawn.
In fact the final episodes of that season directly portray her as not giving two shits of who else survives in the world as long as Dawn does(she goes as far as threatening her friends to kill anyone who tries to harm dawn)
We see Buffy growing increasingly more depressed and hysterical. As foreshadowed by Spike's monologue in "fool for love", buffy does NOT want to live. She wants it all to end. So she choses "that buffy" that she sees in Dawn to live on, while she decides to escape it all by death.
Thats why she is so incredibly angry at everything and at herself when she is back. She does not want to be back. And everyone keeps acting like its the best thing ever, yet for her its despicable. its not where she wants to be. And she never "goes back" from that state. Instead we see it being overcome by her own ego as we have an outright "i am superior to all of you because I am more powerful" Buffy of season seven.
And even though it was hard for her to kill angelus. She did eventually make the tough choice after he became normal again and sacrificed him & her love for him for the fate of the world.
That was heroic. And it set up the whole plotline exploring her own selfishness in S3. Also it was a reason why she outright refused to do the same in S5. And it was also in line with her "needs of many outweigh needs of feww, ends justify means" philosophy she ended up adapting once her superiority complex grew over her insecurities.
I'm not saying all of actions were heroic but out of all the good she did. She would have to be regarded as a hero in some aspect.
Her actions, some of them are INCREDIBLY heroic. She is a flawed, selfish, likeable, relatable realistic human being who did some of incredibly heroic shit.
But she is not a "hero", because that outright limits her character range and everything she has done.Posted 6/13/2012 3:24:16 PM #
Like Julie Plec knows what sarcas#m means, and why the fuck are you here?
This site needs cleansing again,Posted 6/14/2012 9:15:15 PM #