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Alphas HAD to start somehow, right? Who would first alpha kill if it was all just killing? Who would SECONd alpha kill? If it was only killing there would only be one alpha TOTAL.

 

You see, here i would tend to agree because its logical. But this show is TERRIBLE with explaining ANYTHING, much less the origins of the werewolf race and HOW exactly one can supposedly evolve or devolve from one state to the other 3. My understanding of the omega situation as Gerard put it was you could choose to leave your pack and be omega's or your pack could have been killed off. That is all we have ever gotten on the inner working of a pack. Making theroies based on what we DON'T know is a waste of time so for me this is the perfect scenario. There are 5 alphas in the Alpha pack, that we know of, Scott is going to kill one and take their powers. If Scott is gonna shift from alpha to beta any other way there better be a damn good explanation

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Redoktober

*from beta to alpha that should be. OOPS

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Redoktober

YOu are assuming that for Scott to become alpha, someone has to GIVE Up alpha powers? 

I'm sure you did not read that anywhere in my posts. Don't put words in my mouth. Obv no one in their right mind would give up being an alpha. If Dereck is gonna be striped of his powers for referring to another or because some members of his pack reffer to Scott's opinions then what exactly is the binding thread that holds the Alpha as the leader? 

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Redoktober

he is Joffrey

If you mean the thing born of incest from GOT then the only thing he has in common with that mole rat is that he is waaaaay too full of himself. After that the comparisons end. From all accounts his pack fear and respect him. No one fears the rat. 

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Floralovesgurlplz
But this show is TERRIBLE with explaining ANYTHING     Yeah I'm still really annoyed at how secretive the show is about Harris. I don't mind them dragging out who Deaton and Marin are (vet and guidance counsellor), or Lydia, since I figured they'll get to that eventually, but gosh Harris is shady as fuck and they kill him right before we learn why he always popped up into things, from helping the fire to having the same tire tracks, or why he was only nice to Jackson, and he clearly helped the Druid with something 
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gical. But this show is TERRIBLE with explaining ANYTHING, much less the origins of the werewolf race and HOW exactly one can supposedly evolve or devolve from one state to the other 3.That's a horrible assumption.

For one its quite obvious that werewolves STARTED with druid shifters - certain cults of druids were said to be able to shift into animals, bears, wolves, etc, ala indian shamans.

Its quite clear that htey are going to explore and explain how wolves started soon considering we have druids now. 

Second of all - we KNOW its psychological - that's why Kanima became kanima and not a wolf. and why Kanima became wolf once psychological issues were solved. Everything so far hints towards a PSYCHIC nature of werewolf power manifestation. 

 

 

There are 5 alphas in the Alpha pack, that we know of, Scott is going to kill one and take their powers. If Scott is gonna shift from alpha to beta any other way there better be a damn good explanationSorry, but no. Scott killing someone is AGAINST who he is as a person. And there was already explanation. It just needs to be expanded upon, which it will. 

 

I'm sure you did not read that anywhere in my posts. Don't put words in my mouth. Obv no one in their right mind would give up being an alpha. If Dereck is gonna be striped of his powers for referring to another or because some members of his pack reffer to Scott's opinions then what exactly is the binding thread that holds the Alpha as the leader?

You said its an election. You said the previous leader won't just step down because of pack choosing someone else, because its silly

Truly we do not know what keeps Alpha an alpha, but you don't have to take away someone's pack to BE an alpha and you can be alpha without pack too somewhat as Peter proved. So yeah, its not surprising that certain level of charisma and personality could be seen as psychological trigger of turning into an alpha. The girl in first ep who got racist-death already refered to him as ALpha. ANd deaton reacted to the dog-guy calling Scott an alpha too, as if something clicked in his head.

Most likely natural alpha is something you have to be BORN to be(I am still waiting for scott's father to come into play), to have inborn qualities to become one

 

 

 

If you mean the thing born of incest from GOT then the only thing he has in common with that mole rat is that he is waaaaay too full of himself. After that the comparisons end. From all accounts his pack fear and respect him. No one fears the rat. 

congrats on paraphrasing THE EXACT SAME SHIT that I already said after the part you quoted. 

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Redoktober

For one its quite obvious that werewolves STARTED with druid shifters - certain cults of druids were said to be able to shift into animals, bears, wolves, etc, ala indian shamans.

Its quite clear that htey are going to explore and explain how wolves started soon considering we have druids now. 

Boy don't test me. How in the HELL is it "quite obvious" when the word druid was just mentioned LAST EPISODE in the THIRD SEASON??? You need to realize that no one takes quite the large leaps in logic that you do because we don't have all the information. Its a good theory BUT it is far from obvious. 

Second of all - we KNOW its psychological - that's why Kanima became kanima and not a wolf. and why Kanima became wolf once psychological issues were solved. Everything so far hints towards a PSYCHIC nature of werewolf power manifestation. 

Fair enough, but you seem to forget that this show is also about MAGIC not just about psychology and i refuse to believe that simply THINKING about something can produce results in this world. And another thing, its moot to use one COMPLETELY DIFFERENT scenario to justify your argumant for another. We don't know how much magic or psychology is mixed up in Scott's prophecy futute alpha shit. So stop stating that things are obviously. If you're gonna do that, say its obvious to YOU. Cause i am not gonna pull a Dereck and jump in and assume shit when all the pieces have yet to enter the chess board.

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You said the previous leader won't just step down because of pack choosing someone else, because its silly

I said that the alpha won't suddenly LOSE his powers to someone because his pack trusted the opinions of another more. No where did i say Dereck you step down. And i said an emotional election not a practical actual voting one. 

The girl in first ep who got racist-death already refered to him as ALpha

OMFG. You cannot possible use this to justify your psychology argument. SHE HAS NEVER MET HIM BEFORE. She knows he'll be the alpha through some kind of prophecy shit. She doesn't know HOW (and neither do we) he's gonna become alpha or if she did she never said. She just knows that he WILL be alpha. Alpha in this show means LITERAL alpha with glowy eyes right? Cause i am not talking about emotional alpha. When she said she had to warn the alpha she was obviously talking about the alpha he would become in the future NOT present beta  but emotional "alpha" him. 

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Redoktober

congrats on paraphrasing THE EXACT SAME SHIT that I already said after the part you quoted. 

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You must be slipping. How in God's name can you say i paraphrased you when you clearly wrote "he is Joffery" and i'm saying he is so NOT! You shouldn't have made that specific comparison then if its so easily denouced that anything thats even remotely counters it can be seem as a paraphrase. The "he is Joffery" is completely out of nowhere.

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Floralovesgurlplz
The girl in first ep who got racist-death    

Your backwards racism (and sexism) is ridiculous, Get out. If Derek was a brother then you would have been off the wall about his impalement. Red is black, I'm half, and we don't notice half the stuff you come up with. (inb4thatsyourownignorance), I can't wait till you find stuff to complain about Deaton and Marin

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