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Caroline's struggle for her mother's approval int he whole Tyler stuff would have been fascinating.

More natural and organic progression between forwood that retained the supportive friendship elements of S2 would have been great.

Her school struggle, etc. Frankly at best they could have turned Elena in the end of S2 and have the whole clash with caroline and elena instead of one of the most boring and annoying characters this show ever invented(after bonnie and elena) , Becky. 

It would have been nice contrast to get between vamp-elena's birthday and vamp-caroline's too.

 

Sadly the show went way too much on "saint elena" role  of elena chasing after steffie's golden dick, forgetting one of th ebest and most interesting and best developed characters in the show 

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It's in Atlanta. Once I save up, I will buy my plane ticket. Tickets for the convention go on sale tomorrow. I'm fan girl flailing because Jodice will be there. Did you hear that JoMo's dating Persia White? I'm crying right now, 

And Kol/Caroline/Klaus would be epic. I imagine Kol flirting up a storm at the Grill and Klaus gets all jealous because no one talks to his girl. He'll be like "Say that again and I will tear out your liver." And all Bonnie fans will be up in arms because Caroline gets Kol, too. hahahaha. 

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Kitty, I believe that pre s1 and s2 she was (unproffesionally) indifferent and rude toward Carolines character, but NOW all you ever see her say on Twitter is how awesome she is. I was just reading on fanforum and the stelena thread here that apparently she's repeated how C is her favorite character. Now fans are calling C a Mary sue lately, but if it weren't for the repetitive torturing and kidnapping, I'd agree with them.
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I want a vamp fight between Elena and Caroline. Elena will be like "I know you're jealous of me, Caroline. You've always." And Caroline will be like "WTF did you just say. Oh hell no. It's on." And Caroline will kick Elena's ass and Damon/Stefan will come pull them apart. 

And at bored now, they have been showing Caroline human/normal side for the last half of season 3. What do you call throwing parties, setting up dances, attending dances, cheerleading? If anything JP has been focusing too much on her being human and a teenager. The show is called Vampire Diaries not One Tree Hill or Glee or Gilmore Girls. 

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Oh and holy shit I don't want her as dark as the level Buffy and Willow went. Jeez

Not to mention that it would not be possible with her cahracter buildup.

 

her build up is the opposite of Buffy and Willow

 

both buffy and willow were someone who pretended to be who they are not for comfort and used hypocritical justifications for most selfish urges. thus as the show went on and tragedies were thrown at them one after the other, their masks slowly fell and the "who they actually are" versus "who they pretend to be" clashed with their friend circles.

 

Caroline is the opposite. She started in dark place and got better, overcoming her flaws and insecurities.

What I would like is for her to get a bit too overconfident in stuff from time to time, but I really can't see any sort of dark side in her development. Her past is her dark side.  

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Kitty, I believe that pre s1 and s2 she was (unproffesionally) indifferent and rude toward Carolines character, but NOW all you ever see her say on Twitter is how awesome she is.

Thats because caroline sells, thus Plec clenches her jaws and lies through her teeth while neglecting her.

 

Now fans are calling C a Mary sue lately, but if it weren't for the repetitive torturing and kidnapping, I'd agree with them. 

Sorry not feeling that.

There are certain mary sue traits that need to be there for character to be mary sue. Caroline is not "special in any way" unlike(elena). She does not attract every character ever and she makes mistakes, has flaws and insecurities and has real emotional struggle with herself.

 

I do agree that torture aspect GOT FUCKING ANNOYING because Plec could not think any other plotlines and did not want to.  

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What do you call throwing parties, setting up dances, attending dances, cheerleading? If anything JP has been focusing too much on her being human and a teenager. The show is called Vampire Diaries not One Tree Hill or Glee or Gilmore Girls. 

There's a difference between character conflict and character setting.

 

Those things are "setting",with lame becky plotline being a half-assed try at "conflict". the only character conflict plotlines caroline has been getting was getting tortured and kdinapped.

Plec neglected her character development and normalcy search from S2 in S3.  

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Lying through her teeth, lmfao.
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lol what lies she openly admit she's a fucking admit she's a ripoff. except for lying about developing elena. now, that's what I call bullshit

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lol what lies she openly admit she's a fucking admit she's a ripoff. 

And at the same time she pretty much used derogatory terms towards btvs pretty mcuh implying it was "shallow" and "lighthearted".

 

half of stuff plec says is lies and the other half is her own delusions.  

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