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Sorry, just popping in to comment on the Blair losing herself after being traded for a hotel commment. I know that there's a lot of anger about it, as it sounds like she's blaming Chuck yet again - but I read it more as a comment on herself, especially since it's followed by 'selling out for a tiara' (something she and no one else did). So many people were so shocked and furious with Chuck's actions post-3x17 that not many focused on the fact that Blair was willing to do it. Blair was willing to trade herself for a hotel, which IMO is a sacrifice too far. She was disgusted with Chuck in 3x18, but she was also disgusted with herself. She says to Chuck that she hadn't thought, before that, that it was possible to love someone too much. I'd say that one of Blair's defining characteritsics has always how much she loves the people she loves, which then turned around and bit her in the ass 3x17, and ended up making her go too far. I think the point she's trying to make is that SHE - not Chuck - started devaluing herself from that point, in between considering letting herself be traded for a hotel, and trading her happiness for a tiara. She was talking about herself in that conversation, not Chuck. I think the implication is more that she started losing herself after everything that made her Blair Waldorf - fierce loyalty, love, the need to help the people she loves - was used completely against her in the IP. It's not about whether or not she forgives Chuck for it (though honestly, I think it's clear that she has) - the fact is, that is what started making her lose her way. It's what terrified and ashamed her enough to start wanting a 'pure and simple' love, regardless of how boring she'd find it. I think that even if Chuck HADN'T orchestrated the whole thing, her being fully prepared to go through with it is what would have ended up affecting her the most. Could you seriously imagine her staying with Chuck, even if he didn't knowm and acting like everything was fine after she did something that destroyed her own self-worth that much? The Jack and Blair scenes that episode are so heartbreaking because it's hard to know if she's more disgusted with herself or the man she's about to sleep with. The fact that Chuck did know, betrayed her and used her love for him against her, was just what made her stop trusting him. But in this episode (5x21), she's talking about herself, not Chuck's actions.
It's poorly written, of course, because the whole 'traded for a hotel' seems to have become some kind of Gossip Girl catch-phrase now (even though, as someone pointed out, technically it never actually happened) - but I honestly didn't read any anger at Chuck into the way Leighton Meester delivered it. It seemed aimed all at herself (or rather, Blair).
Sorry for the essay - 5x21 annoyed me for plenty of reasons, but that wasn't one of them!
Hi, I'm just popping in as a fellow Chair shipper (who loves this thread, BTW) because I recently noticed something very depressing on Fanfic. Not only do the number of Dair fics rival the number of Chair fics (which I'm sure you've seen), but, even worse, the Dair fics are the ones with all the reviews. Seriously, compare any Dair fic to any Chair fic and the former reach into the 100s. So...is there any chance that you could take the time to review some of the Chair fics that you've enjoyed? 'Stay or Leave' is an awesome story and rightly deserves the number of reviews it has - if not more - but there are some other pretty good ones out at the moment that are slipping through the cracks :( I just think that Chair writers need as much motivation as possible at the moment? Sorry for butting in!
Sorry, I am totally lurking on this thread...I just saw the mentions of Jacob on TWOP and I wanted to say, he's not a 'shipper' of any kind, he just likes the most interesting story. For him that was Chair season 1-4 (and even now, really: any time he mentions Chair he still takes the time to describe them beautifully - just read his recap of that brief scene where Blair tells Chuck she's pregnant, or even their phone call 5x11). But I think that he, like everyone else, feels the Chair issues lately have been ridiculous and repetitive so isn't as much a fan of the story at the moment. He also made a point in his last recap, which is that he feels like the story the writers have been telling for the whole of this season is the build-up to Dair. Which, while unbelievably depressing as a Chair fan, is the only way to make sense of Blair's random changes - if you go at it from the angle that the writers have been using Chuck and Louis as a distraction for how Blair really feels about Dan. Don't get me wrong, I wish that wasn't the case, but I think it's a fair point in understanding the writers' thinking. Also, while Jacob has commented that he's enjoyed some of the Dair scenes, he is equally critical of Dan. He points out in his recaps that Dan's agreeing to go along with the whole 'pact with God' was a pretty sleazy move on his part, as was the video thing, hiding Blair after her wedding, and getting all involved in the paternity of Blair's baby. Sorry, I will butt out now! Just that I'm a huge fan of Jacob, and I know he gets alot of hatemail from both Dair and Chair shippers who call him biased, when really all he cares about is the storyline. I don't want people to get the wrong ideas about his recaps!