Once Upon a Time Round Table: "Think Lovely Thoughts"

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Not everyone was ready to "Think Lovely Thoughts" on Once Upon a Time Season 3 Episode 8, especially where Peter Pan was concerned.

Below, TV Fanatics, Michelle Carlbert, Jim Garner and Christine Orlando are joined by Gareth from Once Upon a Fan to debate the show's most shocking scene and who should finally destroy Peter Pan.

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What was your favorite scene from this Once Upon a Time Season 3 episode?

Gareth: Loved the reveal with Rumple’s dad. Was totally unexpected and really shocked me. I did not see it coming at all. I also loved the showdown between Peter Pan and Rumple. It was just a really great episode. One of the best so far this season.

Michelle: Rumpel's father choosing to give him up so that he could stay on the island and then transforming into Peter Pan. It started out as completely heartbreaking and then turned into a complete shock. I don't think any moment on the show has ever affected me quite like that one did.

Jim: I really enjoyed Neil standing up to Rumpel and stating he would save David because it was the right thing to do. If Rumpel really wants to be better, he needs the nudge that way and between Belle and Neil, he might just get it.

Christine: Definitely Rumpel's father turning into Peter Pan. It was a stunning revelation made all the more heartbreaking by the fact that he took the name from the doll he'd given his son.

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On a scale of 1 to 10, how shocked were you to find out that Peter Pan is actually Rumpelstiltskin's father?

Gareth: 10. I have tried really hard to avoid spoilers this season so the reveal was a huge surprise to me. I had seen people theorize about the possibility but dismissed it as unlikely. I should have learned by now, anything is possible on this show.

Michelle: 10. I hate to say it, because I'm sure it makes me sound dense, but I never once had a thought that Pan could be Rumpel's father. So that was a huge reveal for me, and a really fun moment. There's nothing quite like screaming at your TV set to get the blood going.

Jim: I was pretty shocked, something about a 8. But it kind of makes sense. As Pan said, he traded his son for youth, and Rumpel traded his son for power.  

Christine: 10. I never saw it coming and it was such an awesome twist. It makes me want to go back and look at every scene between Rumpel and Peter Pan to catch the breadcrumbs I'm sure were left that I never saw.

Henry giving Peter Pan his heart. Understandable or undeniably stupid?

Gareth: Really stupid. Like I have said before, they seem to have regressed Henry’s character this year to fit the plot. He was the smartest character on the show in season one and picked up on the things that most adults missed. His stupidity this season just seems like it has come out of left field.

Michelle: Undeniably stupid. I couldn't believe Henry stood there and faced his entire family telling him it was a bad idea, with only Pan (a person Henry barely knew and had, let's not forget, kidnapped him) telling him it was a good idea - and he did it anyway. I lost a lot of respect for Henry in that moment. I know he's a kid but up until now, I thought he was a pretty smart kid.

Jim: Seriously stupid! Henry should have picked up on the fact that ALL three parental figures were in agreement, and that never happens. He could have tested Pan once and Pan would have lost it on him.

Christine: Beyond stupid and I agree with you Jim. How often do ALL of Henry's parents agree on anything. NEVER! Why didn't he pick up on that? I think Henry wanted to play the hero so badly that he blocked all common sense out.

If Rumpel ever gets out of Pandora's Box, do you think he'll share that Peter Pan is his father with the rest of the gang?

Gareth: I don’t think it will come out directly through Rumple but I think the gang will find out somehow, maybe when they confront each other again. Rumple isn’t done with Pan yet!

Michelle: Good question. I don't think he would unless he felt there would be some benefit in doing so. Information like that could be very powerful and I doubt Rumpel would give that up. The only exception I could see is maybe in a quiet moment between he and Neal, he might just tell the truth to his son as a way to get closer to him.

Jim: I honestly think it will come to light that Pan is Rumpel's father before he gets out. It might be the only reason the gang lets him out.

Christine: I don't know how it's going to come out, I just hope that it does. It has the potential to affect Rumpel's relationships with everyone and that could be a lot of fun.

If you could chose one person to take Peter Pan down, who would it be?

Gareth: I wanted it to be Henry so bad. I really thought he would outsmart Pan. As it stands now, I think it has to be Rumple. They have unfinished business to settle.

Michelle: Rumpel. I feel like he would need to do that in order to get past the awful thing that his father did to him and perhaps get past what he himself did to his own son.

Jim: Rumpel really needs to take him down for closure. However, I suspect that Wendy will be the one to actually take him down as he's not on guard for her.

Christine: If I could choose? I'd want to see Regina rip the little brat's heart out but I'll agree that Rumpel or even Jim's theory about Wendy are the more likely options.

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Once Upon a Time Season 3 Episode 8 Quotes

Emma: We need to talk.
Hook: I've found that when a woman says that I'm rarely in for a pleasant conversation.

If you save magic you'll save us all but to do it you have to truly believe.

Peter Pan