Grimm Round Table: Juliette's Sweet Revenge

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Juliette took sweet revenge on Portland's least-favorite Hexenbiest during Grimm Season 4 Episode 13's epic showdown – and it was certainly sweet for a vast majority of viewers, too!

TV Fanatic Round Table Panelists Doug Wolfe, Robin Harry, Allison Nichols, and Kathleen Wiedel discuss this and other issues brought up in "Trial By Fire," including cultural feuding and Nick's less-than-happy revelation of Juliette's new nature. Join in the discussion by adding your own thoughts in the comments section below!

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The Blutbad-Bauerschwein feud is cultural, but for Monroe and Orson it's also personal. What do you think about their handshake at the end?

Doug: I think the only way Monroe was able to shake his hand was with the understanding that Orson was going to continue paying for his crime. It's hard to imagine him having any tolerance for him otherwise. Orson helped for sure, but Monroe can't and won't forget.

Robin: Interesting perspective, Doug. I saw it as an nod to the good work that they both did in the case. Also, it was an acknowledgement of the idea that they actually worked together, so maybe Blutbaden and Bauerschwein in general aren't completely bad after all. However, as Doug said, they can't forgive each other for their personal crimes against each other.

Allison: I think it was a great step for Monroe, even if it was just a handshake saying "thanks for the help but I still hate your guts." He has experienced so much old world Wesen hatred. Rosalee called him out on it, and it was glorious. The entire storyline was a good reminder that the old world views don't always have to mean Wesenrein and tribunals. It is harder to escape the hatred than it seems, especially when it has grown deep roots in everyone's lives.

Kathleen: One might call it "one small step for a Bauerschwein and a Blutbad, one giant leap for Wesen-kind." Monroe and Orson managed to look past their history and animosity (which isn't exactly insignificant) in order to work together for the greater good. I think Allison summed it up pretty well.

Sam Damerov, whom Renard is employing to search for Kelly Burkhardt and the baby, is apparently also giving the information to Prince Viktor as well, thanks to "back-channel diplomacy." Is Damerov playing both sides, or is there something else going on?

Doug: I imagine that Damerov is firmly in Viktor's pocket, and is operating as a double agent. What better way to ramp up the tension for Renard?

Robin: I love how all things Renard tend to be mysterious. I have no idea what's going on with Damerov, but I'm sure he's playing someone.

Allison: You never really know someone's true loyalties when it comes to the royals and this baby. Damerov could just be doing it for the cash, not really having favorites. He could also be giving partial information to Viktor while giving everything to Renard or vice versa.

Kathleen: I don't trust the guy as far as I could throw him (which isn't very far at all). I wouldn't be surprised if Damerov had his own plans cooking quietly in the background.

Juliette Lying in Wait - Grimm Season 4 Episode 13

What are your thoughts on the long-awaited Juliette/Adalind showdown?

Doug: I thought that was a thing of beauty. It was so ...nice... to see Adalind's horror at finding someone stronger than her.

Robin: (sigh) It was everything I dreamed it would be. I'm so glad there was a clear winner of that fight, and I'm even happier that it was Juliette. Man, she wiped the floor – and the roof – with Adalind. I loved Adalind's surprise and horror. My only disappointment with that was that she let Adalind run out in one piece, and that it wasn't longer.

Allison: I was disappointed. The preview caught the gist of the fight, and I spent like 56 minutes waiting for this fight to happen. I would have preferred it kicked off the episode, and that maybe there was a round two. I found it interesting that Adalind wasn't immediately in shock or thrown off. They fight for a bit before Adalind has her look of shock.

Kathleen: I sort of agree with Allison in that I was surprised that Adalind wasn't immediately thrown by Juliette's completely unexpected (and to Adalind, unexplained) woge. That said, the look of shock on her face before she ran away was absolutely priceless. I'm also with Robin: why let Adalind flee at all?! Overall, however, it was sweet, sweet revenge on Adalind.

Juliette has finally revealed her "biest"-ly transformation to Nick. How do you think he will handle this?

Doug: I can only put myself in Nick's place. I would be horrified and nervous knowing there was a woman sleeping next to me who was capable of... that.

Robin: I think it will be a combination of horror, anger and guilt. He'll be mad she didn't tell him and a unsure how to accept it. I think, though, he'll mostly feel guilty, since this only happened to her because of what she did to restore his Grimmness.

Allison: I loved Nick's immediate reaction because he stumbles back and looks like he might need to defend himself for about a split second. I feel like Nick is going to go on the "we have to fix this" route, and not even consider the option that this might be permanent.

Kathleen: Poor Nick. The hits just keep coming, don't they? I can't imagine his immediate reaction will be anything good, especially since Juliette's been keeping this a secret for so long. Betrayal, anger, and the real kicker: guilt. Yep, as Robin said, he will doubtless end up blaming himself for this. Though Juliette seems to be appreciating her, ah, condition more and more.

What scene or quote stood out for you, for better or worse?

Doug: I really enjoyed the fight scene between Juliette and Adalind. Up until Juliette got her powers she's been just a weak sidekick to Nick and therefore the odd person out. It's great to see her confidence just brimming as she becomes a force to be reckoned with, much like Trubel.

Robin: Absolutely the final fight scene. it was all fantastic, but I especially loved the sequence when they took the fight through the kitchen, and Juliette nailed punch after punch...before that crazy knife move! Soooo good. Again, it was everything I dreamed it would be.

Allison: I really enjoyed Rosalee telling off Monroe in the spice shop. She made great points, and showed Monroe that helping Nick with his duties as a Grimm comes before any petty Wesen feud.

Kathleen: That fight was epic, but I also agree with Allison that Rosalee's lecture to Monroe was awesome. Rosalee was right on the money, and Monroe admitted it after he'd cooled off.

Grimm returns with Season 4 Episode 14, "Bad Luck," on Friday, March 20, at 8 p.m. on NBC!

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Grimm Season 4 Episode 13 Quotes

Juliette: So what happens when Adalind finds out you're a Grimm again?
Nick: One less Hexenbiest wouldn't be a bad thing, would it?
Juliette: No, I guess not.

Hank: You're a Bauerschwein. Nick's a Grimm. Yeah, we know.
Peter Orson: Wow. I've been away too long.