Shonda Rhimes Discusses Erica and Callie

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For Grey's Anatomy fans who began the season wondering if Dr. ­Erica Hahn (Brooke Smith) was gay, last week's season finale offered an answer - she might just be, after Dr. Callie Torres (Sara Ramirez) made her move.

The two-hour episode - which culminated with Callie planting a kiss on Erica outside of Seattle Grace - had people asking: For the love of The L Word, could EriCal eclipse MerDer as the Grey's Anatomy "It" couple?

Creator Shonda Rhimes tells Entertainment Weekly that we may not have seen the last of this budding (and much buzzed-about) Seattle Grace romance.

Erica and Callie Work It

Is there a future for Callie (Sara Ramirez) and Erica (Brooke Smith)?

"Callie and Erica have an undeniable chemistry," says Shonda Rhimes.

"Watching the story unfold is something the writers are looking forward to. I wanted to illuminate their relationship in the same way we try to do all relationships on the show - ­funny, sweet, honest, and a little bit dirty."

As for Brooke Smith, she doesn't think Dr. Hahn was coming out of the closet in the last few weeks leading up to the finale.

In fact, she and Shonda specifically talked about Dr. Hahn not being gay when Smith first joined the show last fall.

"Earlier this season, we felt it was too obvious that a strong, powerful woman would be a lesbian," says Smith.

"In fact, Dr. Hahn decided she wasn't going to have a relationship at work, though clearly she came to the wrong hospital."

Like the fans, Smith said she and Ramirez were kept guessing about their relationship until days before taping of the final episode.

Even fellow Grey's Anatomy cast members like Patrick Dempsey (Derek Shepherd) were caught off guard by the surprise kiss; Smith remembers him gasping at the table read for "Freedom," saying, "Are you two getting together?"

"Sara Ramirez is not a bad choice. She's pretty hot!" says Smith.

"Why not? I'm game."

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What a brilliantly crafted piece of television! The writing has a coherence and layering that is pretty damn rare in television, and the acting was, at times, breathtaking. Special thanks to the writers for not chickening out on the Callie / Erica relationship developing. For those of us who know what we're talking about, it's spot on. Thanks to the writers for removing our invisibility, and to the actors for bringing it to us.


I loved the season finale of Grey's!!! I watched it last night, so I am two weeks behind. I am straight, but also support gays. I think Callie and Hahn will be great together. I think Callie may have always been gay because her love for George actually seemed more forced than Hahn's. Callie was the man in relationship with George, but the roles have switched with her and Hahn. I think next season will be great and I love the new romances and stories that will unfold. Does anyone think Rose is pregnant? I have a feeling that Der won't come back to Mer because Rose will be expecting!!!


To sarah: What you are saying is entirely ignant!!!! I understand that everyone has their views but who are you to talk down on people like that. The show is great, and if you really hate gay people that much maybe you should have stopped watching grey's a long time ago because TR knight (George) he's gay in real life in fact thats the reason why Burke got fired in the first place because he called him a faggot. I loved Burke's character but he screwed up and he deserved to be fired. You also keep saying Erica hahn is ugly in case you never knew not everyone is going to be up to your standard of pretty, she is pretty fine to alot of people. Views like that make people hate the way they look and go through dramatic extremes to change. You have no right to coment or judge anyone you need to take along look at yourself and who you are inside, because you certainly must have some deep issues within or outward to be that malicious


Callie/Erica wasn't expecting them to make callie be interesting in Hahn but any fool could realize they were gonna do that from addison came back..Personally I don't have a problem with it, I think it makes the show interested I'm tired of only hoping on Merder relationship, it was time for something new. For those who oppose you are all being ignorant this is 2008 gay people are apart of our society and since grey's is a revolutionary show that touches on every aspect of reality it only made sense to include a story line like this. I'm so looking forward to this story line in season 5.


omg! Izzie and Bailey would be amazing! I've personally have wanted it since day one. Go back to the first season and see how loving Bailey is with Izzie. She's always loved Izzie more than any of the other interns. Make it happen, Shonda.


To Tee: Totally agree with you, i hope we will see much more Callie/Erica in next season!


We have one good, whole, and true friendship on Grey's Anatomy. Cristina and Meredith. That friendship is sometimes what makes the episodes. Why can you not leave Callie and Hahn with a true friendship? Why ruin it by forcing these characters to be lesbians? I wasn't aware that ABC would even allow homosexual action like has been in the past few episodes. I have to say that I am extremely dissapointed as I expected more from this show. There are so many other things you can do with these two characters than grossing your audience out with lesbian kissing. I trust that you will fix this so that I and many others can continue watching the show and keep our supper down at the same time.


Thank you Doc and Nicole. Sarah should get a life, we are no longer living in the 1920's. Erica is certaingly not ugly, her assertivness is very attractive and I think that her and Callie make a great couple. It is not often that we see gay women on tv, other then programmes that have homosexuality as there central theme (L word), it is refreshing. Sheperd and Meredith are stale and its time for something, or someone new to revive the show to its former glory. Well done to Shonda and the team. I hope that the obviously passion filled kiss exchanged between Erica and Callie will develop into something. I eagerly await the season 5.


To Sarah: GET A LIFE!!


I think that it is someones personality that people fall in love with.
I think its cute that erica and callie are together. I also think its great to put on for people who are qustioning their sexualty. For the people who don't like erica(brook smith) I really just don't understand why. She's a charatear who tells the truth stright out to someone. And she is not ugly! For the record I would like to tell you people that I'm stright. I just support gays. And those of you who will not watch grey's anthomy because of gays then you should of stoped wathing grey's anthomy a long time ago because T.R knight is gay. Nicole


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Did you say it? 'I love you. I don't ever want to live without you. You changed my life.' Did you say it? Make a plan. Set a goal. Work toward it, but every now and then, look around; Drink it in 'cause this is it. It might all be gone tomorrow."

Meredith (closing voiceover)

There's a reason I said I'd be happy alone. It wasn't 'cause I thought I'd be happy alone. It was because I thought if I loved someone and then it fell apart, I might not make it. It's easier to be alone, because what if you learn that you need love and you don't have it? What if you like it and lean on it? What if you shape your life around it and then it falls apart? Can you even survive that kind of pain? Losing love is like organ damage. It's like dying. The only difference is death ends. This? It could go on forever.