Callie is immature because she wasn't being honest with Arizona when they were leaving for Africa. Callie should've being honest instead of acting passing agressive torward Arizona. Also Arizona was selfish and immature because she also waited until the last minute to deal with Callie's immatureness
Sildokuz
December 25th, 2010 12:42 PM
I think they where BOTH selfish. I think they both need to sit down and talk. Now that Callie /might/ be prego its just going to make matters worse. Callie and Ari BOTH have some growing up to do. I am a HUGE fan of both and can see it from both sides. Hell I just want my two favorite characters back together again. Even if it is going to be a rough ride, they have to go through it together, not alone. If they go through it alone they will both be shred apart. And personally, I don't want to see that happen. In a relationship everyone must give and everyone must take. Its not just one sided. Communication is the key. Not only that but they also have to understand where each one is coming from. I wish my two favs a good luck in the episodes to come.
I agree with K 100%. Arizona isn't the selfish one here, cause I think that's Callie. What changes has she ever made for Arizona?
zla2
December 24th, 2010 10:41 PM
Why is Arizona selfish for wanting to Cristina to move out. Callie ask her to move in, she just wanted to start building a home with Callie. It was no different to when Dereck sent Alex and Izzie who was recovering for cancer by the way to live in the woods becuase he wanted to spent time alone with Meredith. At least Cristina could had gone to live in Owens place and no in a trailer in the middle of the woods. Just saying. I think both Callie and Arizona responsable for the situation they are in. First Callie didnt want to go to Africa and she made it really clear acting all passive aggresive and bitchy, and the she slept with Mark of all the people in Seatle she could have sex with she picked Mark. And Arizona was wrong to dumb Callie in the middle of the airport. They biggets issue is that they need to learn how to communicate what they are feeling.
K
December 24th, 2010 10:10 PM
Callie is the selfish one because she has given up nothing. She can't even give up sex with Mark. ick. If she loves AZ so much, Mark would be the last person she would sleep with. In fact, a mature, in love person, wouldn't want to sleep with anyone else,
She made no real effort to even go to Africa. No matter what AZ said at the airport, there was nothing stopping Callie from getting on that plane if she really wanted AZ. Callie was only thinking of herself and her own needs.
Lucas
December 24th, 2010 6:27 PM
I used to like Arizona but lately, she has been showing her true colors. No more so than when she was trying to force Cristina out of the apartment, even though Cristina was traumatized. Worse yet, it was Cristina who had invited Callie to become her roommate. Cristina even had to pay the rent, when Callie couldn't because her dad cut off her trust fund. Arizona expects Callie to take her back with open arms. Callie deserves better.
Greysfan1000
December 24th, 2010 5:48 PM
I don't see how Callie is acting immature here just because she doesn't want to reconcile. She told Arizona that if she left without her, they would be over, and Arizona knew that when she made the decision to leave her at the Airport. No one wants to pick up their lives and move to another country for someone else's job. She worked hard to build the position she is at right now and, in another place, she would have to start over. The point was, Callie was willing to make a sacrifice for Arizona, even though she was not happy about it. For Arizona to dump her because she wasn't leaving her life behind happily, to me, was immature.
Also, I think Arizona is the selfish one in the relationship and Callie is the one that always has to change to fit what she wants. She lied about having the chicken pox, so that she wouldn't have to take care of her, she pressured her to kick out her roommate, she pressured her to change her apartment around and she always brings up past relationshi
psyisnotcrap
December 24th, 2010 3:22 PM
Both Arizona acted like a child when she dump Callie at the airport, but Callie was also acting like a child before they almost left for Africa.
Now Callie is acting so immature, she is not taking responsibility for her part on the whole thing.
1) I think it's ok, because arizona was mean too, she broke up in the airpot with callie.
2) I find teddy not special and there are many people without insurance so what will she do? marry everyone?
3) VERY happy that chris is back BUT why the hell is she at that place? coincidence?
K
December 24th, 2010 11:12 AM
I think these comments suggesting that Arizona is the selfish one or the only one in the relationship acting selfishly are a little shortsighted. I think it was Callie who decided her need to have kids was a relationship breaker. It was Callie who decides where they live and how it was decorated. It was Callie who seems to put her friendships before her relationship..ie, originally keeping Yang's ped's motivation from AZ, constantly putting Mark in between them....
It was Callie who couldn't be happy for AZ's grant win, when she constantly put her own feelings first. I think both of them need to compromise, but if we are keeping score, it is AZ who is always doing the changing for Callie.
Cinders
December 24th, 2010 9:14 AM
With regards to the videos
(1) I am glad that Callie is standing up for herself. Arizona is a little selfish in terms of this relationship.
(2) Teddy gets married in Denhny 2.0. Never liked Teddy, will never like Teddy. To me, she should just be a recurring character.
(3) So glad that Cristina is getting her mojo back. As for her being there, maybe she just signed up for a couple of classes to occupy her time. After all, she is a brainiac. By the way, did you notice that Owen asked Bailey, "where is that?"
Caitlyn Rank: Regular Character
December 24th, 2010 7:12 AM
So exciting to see that we're gonna get a good MerDer scene!!
mcmerder21
December 24th, 2010 5:33 AM
I read there the thing about the best merder scene ever: go to the middle of the page, it was one of Krista Vernoff Tweets:
http://www.meredith-and-derek.co.cc/html/news-Oct10.html
@Grey Area, In the promo at 0:06, it really looks like mer is on the catwalk. I'm not a 100% sure but but almost :)
I am soo excited about iiiiiiiiiiiit!!!!!!!! OMG OMG OMG
User
December 24th, 2010 1:09 AM
@mcmerder21
Reallyyy?? Are you very sure? Cause I'm totally really excited by what you said. Hahaha! Omg
Caitlyn Rank: Regular Character
December 23rd, 2010 11:32 PM
Did someone say best MerDer scene ever is coming in January?? Okay, now that's making me even more excited!! And as for Calzona, both of them were wrong but it's about them working through it. I think Callie's reaction is right that she can't just welcome her openly because she's been hurt a lot. But at the same time, she can't do it to the point that it drives Arizona away. She's eventually gonna have to allow herself to be vulnerable so her and Arizona can talk things out.
Callie and Arizona were both wrong, but I'm Team Arizona right now. Why does she always have to be the one who changes for Callie? The airport break up was bad, but Arizona came back for her. That should count for something.
Grey Area
December 23rd, 2010 6:03 PM
@MCMERDER21- where did you hear that episode is going to be the best merder scene ever? :D When she's on the catwalk. :'O
Grey Area
December 23rd, 2010 5:57 PM
The last one with Yang and the shooting totally gave me chills!! This gives me hope that GA will be back more than ever! :'D
jb4uiwill
December 23rd, 2010 4:14 PM
Just like everyone else I am UBER excited!!!! I couldnt wait to get a look at the sneak peek of Calzona!!! Callie was harsh but she also didnt mean it. A soon as the words left her mouth she looked down and away from Arizona. I feel like it's taking alot out Callie to be so mean. She still loves Arizona. She admitted how much she missed her in the last epi. That feeling didnt just evaporate into thin air. But she has to hurt Arizona in some way to show her that before she makes any sudden decisions, Arizona needs to think them through. However, Callie better be careful. Arizona is only going let her beat her down for so long before she's had enough. I'm really interested in hearing what Arizona has to say about everthing that has happened. Arizona looked so pretty when she was sitting down look up at Callie with sorrow in her eyes. And Callie (my heart) looks so stunning. She's rocking that short hair cut!! They will make it thorugh this!!! CALZONA FOREVER!!
mcmerder21
December 23rd, 2010 3:42 PM
ahww, i really can't wait to see it!!!!!! This wait is KILLING ME!!!!
Why is cristina near the shooting?? Seriously! But it's cute to see that she can't help herself to be a doctor :)
Your gonna find me weird but i really want mer to snap! In the promo she is on the catwalk, probably where derek got shot and i read that in this episode, there is one of the best merder scene ever. I hope derek will be there for her and that they are finally gonna deal with their trauma together. Because, seriously, they are acting like nothing ever happened. But come on people, Meredith saw her husband get shot, watched him almost die, found out that she was pregnant, had a miscarriage, all at once, something has to happen!
For callie and arizona, i think arizona deserved it a little, but callie is being a little harsh there! They should make up, they are meant to be with eachother.
Ps: I loooove this season! This sneak peeks make me want january to come faaaaaasteeeerrrrr!!! I am so a junkie!!
akeelah
December 23rd, 2010 3:30 PM
im so hype right now it looks like christina is gettin back to her old self
OMG
December 23rd, 2010 2:58 PM
@ Aries93
Yes, she dumped Callie in an airport BUT she's not a saint either: she spent the day being all mean and passive-agressive towards Arizona and after the break-up she slept with the one person Arizona feels more insecure...
Yes, Callie was ready to go to Africa just because she loves Arizona BUT Arizona gave up her dream and came back all the way from Africa just because she also loves Callie.
Sooo... both of them did pretty bad things but i think the less Callie can do now is let Arizona talk and not act so harsh!
Jarrod Mitchell Rank: Leading Character
December 23rd, 2010 1:29 PM
It's true what Caitlyn said.
I think it will continue straight on from Cristina and her fishing trip and Teddy and that guy (forgot his name) - It did show it in the videos - But I mean in the sense of just picking up the day after, getting through with those story lines and possibly jumping. However, we never know where it will go. After all, the first 3 seasons were one year.
Actually, what year did the actual timeline begin in this show? When Izzie had cancer, she was asked what year it was by Derek after her surgery and she said '2009'.
I know it's not relevant, but now I have timelines in my head.
Caitlyn Rank: Regular Character
December 23rd, 2010 1:19 PM
I think that the scene happened between them actually follows right after where the last one ended. Simply because Callie asks if she was there all night which leads to it possibly just being the next day. And Arizona said she just came back from Africa so that's another way to tell that this is possibly right after the last episode.
K
December 23rd, 2010 1:13 PM
I wish we knew the timeframe here. Callie still being so mad the next day or week later, understandable. But if months have passed? You'd think she'd be more regretful of the situation and just want her gf back.
She is totally ticked. I could see telling AZ to leave her alone, you left, I warned you if you got on that plane that it was over...etc. But to want her totally out of the country? Callie knew AZ had no place to go and left her out in a cold hallway. little harsh.
If I was AZ, I'd have responded with..'okay, fine! now you know why nobody ever came back for you!" lol
December 25th, 2010 1:19 PM
Callie is immature because she wasn't being honest with Arizona when they were leaving for Africa. Callie should've being honest instead of acting passing agressive torward Arizona. Also Arizona was selfish and immature because she also waited until the last minute to deal with Callie's immatureness
December 25th, 2010 12:42 PM
I think they where BOTH selfish. I think they both need to sit down and talk. Now that Callie /might/ be prego its just going to make matters worse. Callie and Ari BOTH have some growing up to do. I am a HUGE fan of both and can see it from both sides. Hell I just want my two favorite characters back together again. Even if it is going to be a rough ride, they have to go through it together, not alone. If they go through it alone they will both be shred apart. And personally, I don't want to see that happen. In a relationship everyone must give and everyone must take. Its not just one sided. Communication is the key. Not only that but they also have to understand where each one is coming from. I wish my two favs a good luck in the episodes to come.
Rank: Extra
December 25th, 2010 7:07 AM
I agree with K 100%. Arizona isn't the selfish one here, cause I think that's Callie. What changes has she ever made for Arizona?
December 24th, 2010 10:41 PM
Why is Arizona selfish for wanting to Cristina to move out. Callie ask her to move in, she just wanted to start building a home with Callie. It was no different to when Dereck sent Alex and Izzie who was recovering for cancer by the way to live in the woods becuase he wanted to spent time alone with Meredith. At least Cristina could had gone to live in Owens place and no in a trailer in the middle of the woods. Just saying. I think both Callie and Arizona responsable for the situation they are in. First Callie didnt want to go to Africa and she made it really clear acting all passive aggresive and bitchy, and the she slept with Mark of all the people in Seatle she could have sex with she picked Mark. And Arizona was wrong to dumb Callie in the middle of the airport. They biggets issue is that they need to learn how to communicate what they are feeling.
December 24th, 2010 10:10 PM
Callie is the selfish one because she has given up nothing. She can't even give up sex with Mark. ick. If she loves AZ so much, Mark would be the last person she would sleep with. In fact, a mature, in love person, wouldn't want to sleep with anyone else,
She made no real effort to even go to Africa. No matter what AZ said at the airport, there was nothing stopping Callie from getting on that plane if she really wanted AZ. Callie was only thinking of herself and her own needs.
December 24th, 2010 6:27 PM
I used to like Arizona but lately, she has been showing her true colors. No more so than when she was trying to force Cristina out of the apartment, even though Cristina was traumatized. Worse yet, it was Cristina who had invited Callie to become her roommate. Cristina even had to pay the rent, when Callie couldn't because her dad cut off her trust fund. Arizona expects Callie to take her back with open arms. Callie deserves better.
December 24th, 2010 5:48 PM
I don't see how Callie is acting immature here just because she doesn't want to reconcile. She told Arizona that if she left without her, they would be over, and Arizona knew that when she made the decision to leave her at the Airport. No one wants to pick up their lives and move to another country for someone else's job. She worked hard to build the position she is at right now and, in another place, she would have to start over. The point was, Callie was willing to make a sacrifice for Arizona, even though she was not happy about it. For Arizona to dump her because she wasn't leaving her life behind happily, to me, was immature.
Also, I think Arizona is the selfish one in the relationship and Callie is the one that always has to change to fit what she wants. She lied about having the chicken pox, so that she wouldn't have to take care of her, she pressured her to kick out her roommate, she pressured her to change her apartment around and she always brings up past relationshi
December 24th, 2010 3:22 PM
Both Arizona acted like a child when she dump Callie at the airport, but Callie was also acting like a child before they almost left for Africa.
Now Callie is acting so immature, she is not taking responsibility for her part on the whole thing.
Rank: Extra
December 24th, 2010 1:07 PM
1) I think it's ok, because arizona was mean too, she broke up in the airpot with callie.
2) I find teddy not special and there are many people without insurance so what will she do? marry everyone?
3) VERY happy that chris is back BUT why the hell is she at that place? coincidence?
December 24th, 2010 11:12 AM
I think these comments suggesting that Arizona is the selfish one or the only one in the relationship acting selfishly are a little shortsighted. I think it was Callie who decided her need to have kids was a relationship breaker. It was Callie who decides where they live and how it was decorated. It was Callie who seems to put her friendships before her relationship..ie, originally keeping Yang's ped's motivation from AZ, constantly putting Mark in between them....
It was Callie who couldn't be happy for AZ's grant win, when she constantly put her own feelings first. I think both of them need to compromise, but if we are keeping score, it is AZ who is always doing the changing for Callie.
December 24th, 2010 9:14 AM
With regards to the videos
(1) I am glad that Callie is standing up for herself. Arizona is a little selfish in terms of this relationship.
(2) Teddy gets married in Denhny 2.0. Never liked Teddy, will never like Teddy. To me, she should just be a recurring character.
(3) So glad that Cristina is getting her mojo back. As for her being there, maybe she just signed up for a couple of classes to occupy her time. After all, she is a brainiac. By the way, did you notice that Owen asked Bailey, "where is that?"
Rank: Regular Character
December 24th, 2010 7:12 AM
So exciting to see that we're gonna get a good MerDer scene!!
December 24th, 2010 5:33 AM
I read there the thing about the best merder scene ever: go to the middle of the page, it was one of Krista Vernoff Tweets:
http://www.meredith-and-derek.co.cc/html/news-Oct10.html
@Grey Area, In the promo at 0:06, it really looks like mer is on the catwalk. I'm not a 100% sure but but almost :)
I am soo excited about iiiiiiiiiiiit!!!!!!!! OMG OMG OMG
December 24th, 2010 1:09 AM
@mcmerder21
Reallyyy?? Are you very sure? Cause I'm totally really excited by what you said. Hahaha! Omg
Rank: Regular Character
December 23rd, 2010 11:32 PM
Did someone say best MerDer scene ever is coming in January?? Okay, now that's making me even more excited!! And as for Calzona, both of them were wrong but it's about them working through it. I think Callie's reaction is right that she can't just welcome her openly because she's been hurt a lot. But at the same time, she can't do it to the point that it drives Arizona away. She's eventually gonna have to allow herself to be vulnerable so her and Arizona can talk things out.
Rank: Extra
December 23rd, 2010 9:23 PM
Callie and Arizona were both wrong, but I'm Team Arizona right now. Why does she always have to be the one who changes for Callie? The airport break up was bad, but Arizona came back for her. That should count for something.
December 23rd, 2010 6:03 PM
@MCMERDER21- where did you hear that episode is going to be the best merder scene ever? :D When she's on the catwalk. :'O
December 23rd, 2010 5:57 PM
The last one with Yang and the shooting totally gave me chills!! This gives me hope that GA will be back more than ever! :'D
December 23rd, 2010 4:14 PM
Just like everyone else I am UBER excited!!!! I couldnt wait to get a look at the sneak peek of Calzona!!! Callie was harsh but she also didnt mean it. A soon as the words left her mouth she looked down and away from Arizona. I feel like it's taking alot out Callie to be so mean. She still loves Arizona. She admitted how much she missed her in the last epi. That feeling didnt just evaporate into thin air. But she has to hurt Arizona in some way to show her that before she makes any sudden decisions, Arizona needs to think them through. However, Callie better be careful. Arizona is only going let her beat her down for so long before she's had enough. I'm really interested in hearing what Arizona has to say about everthing that has happened. Arizona looked so pretty when she was sitting down look up at Callie with sorrow in her eyes. And Callie (my heart) looks so stunning. She's rocking that short hair cut!! They will make it thorugh this!!! CALZONA FOREVER!!
December 23rd, 2010 3:42 PM
ahww, i really can't wait to see it!!!!!! This wait is KILLING ME!!!!
Why is cristina near the shooting?? Seriously! But it's cute to see that she can't help herself to be a doctor :)
Your gonna find me weird but i really want mer to snap! In the promo she is on the catwalk, probably where derek got shot and i read that in this episode, there is one of the best merder scene ever. I hope derek will be there for her and that they are finally gonna deal with their trauma together. Because, seriously, they are acting like nothing ever happened. But come on people, Meredith saw her husband get shot, watched him almost die, found out that she was pregnant, had a miscarriage, all at once, something has to happen!
For callie and arizona, i think arizona deserved it a little, but callie is being a little harsh there! They should make up, they are meant to be with eachother.
Ps: I loooove this season! This sneak peeks make me want january to come faaaaaasteeeerrrrr!!! I am so a junkie!!
December 23rd, 2010 3:30 PM
im so hype right now it looks like christina is gettin back to her old self
December 23rd, 2010 2:58 PM
@ Aries93
Yes, she dumped Callie in an airport BUT she's not a saint either: she spent the day being all mean and passive-agressive towards Arizona and after the break-up she slept with the one person Arizona feels more insecure...
Yes, Callie was ready to go to Africa just because she loves Arizona BUT Arizona gave up her dream and came back all the way from Africa just because she also loves Callie.
Sooo... both of them did pretty bad things but i think the less Callie can do now is let Arizona talk and not act so harsh!
Rank: Leading Character
December 23rd, 2010 1:29 PM
It's true what Caitlyn said.
I think it will continue straight on from Cristina and her fishing trip and Teddy and that guy (forgot his name) - It did show it in the videos - But I mean in the sense of just picking up the day after, getting through with those story lines and possibly jumping. However, we never know where it will go. After all, the first 3 seasons were one year.
Actually, what year did the actual timeline begin in this show? When Izzie had cancer, she was asked what year it was by Derek after her surgery and she said '2009'.
I know it's not relevant, but now I have timelines in my head.
Rank: Regular Character
December 23rd, 2010 1:19 PM
I think that the scene happened between them actually follows right after where the last one ended. Simply because Callie asks if she was there all night which leads to it possibly just being the next day. And Arizona said she just came back from Africa so that's another way to tell that this is possibly right after the last episode.
December 23rd, 2010 1:13 PM
I wish we knew the timeframe here. Callie still being so mad the next day or week later, understandable. But if months have passed? You'd think she'd be more regretful of the situation and just want her gf back.
She is totally ticked. I could see telling AZ to leave her alone, you left, I warned you if you got on that plane that it was over...etc. But to want her totally out of the country? Callie knew AZ had no place to go and left her out in a cold hallway. little harsh.
If I was AZ, I'd have responded with..'okay, fine! now you know why nobody ever came back for you!" lol