Gossip Girl Round Table: Season Five Premiere

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Welcome to the first TV Fanatic Gossip Girl Round Table of the season! Below, our panel breaks down the previous night's episode (see our review from earlier this morning) from all angles.

Below, TVF shot-caller Eric Hochberger (a.k.a. Gossip Guy) and editor Steve Marsi (Mister Meester) are joined by staff writers Courtney Morrison, Christina Tran and Leigh Raines to discuss "Yes, Then Zero."

Weigh in with your take on the following topics after reading ours!

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What was your favorite quote from the episode?

Courtney: "People like me don't write books, they're written about." Absolute perfection by Chuck Bass.

Christina: Chuck: "Serena, you accepted responsibility without hesitation for maybe the first time in your life. And Nate, you had more fun not being you than you've ever had actually being you. Which means you now know you need to change." Dead on. Finally, a bit of realism on Gossip Girl.

Leigh: Marshall to Chuck: "Who are you?" Serena and Nate: "He's Chuck Bass." Had to go with the classic on this one.

Steve: Courtney and Eric's choice was clearly the best, but to mix it up, I'll go with Nate's musings on weed and life. I love being reminded of what a stoner he is at heart.

Eric: "People like me don't write books, they're written about." Glad the "yes man" Chuck is still a cocky bastard.

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What did you like and dislike most about the premiere?

Courtney: I liked that everyone seemed to be having fun again, a back to basics premiere showing why we all fell in love with this show in the first place. Blair was on her game, Serena looked pretty, Chuck was being hot... felt like old times. I am loving the Blair pregnancy storyline... hopefully they don't bail out of it in some way. There wasn't much I disliked... I don't see the need for Charlie/Ivy to come back and I am not so sold on the adult stories playing a huge part (looking at you, Elizabeth Hurley). Hopefully her arc works out better than Russell Thorpe's last season.

Christina: Sometimes a change of scenery can be nice. LA served as a great spot for Chuck, Nate and Serena to have a simpler than usual summer. I disliked that Blair seemed more whiny and irritating than usual.

Leigh: I loved seeing Nate, Serena, and Chuck hanging out and having some good old-fashioned fun. Unfortunately I still really dislike the Louis storyline. Blair is not her usual snarky, wonderful self around him.

Steve: I only had minor complaints, such as Marshall's lame plot to oust Serena and too much of Louis' mom. Other than that, it was a fun episode with a lot of heart and a major twist. Vintage Gossip Girl.

Eric: I loved the light-hearted feeling of the LA scenes. I disliked Chace Craword's terrible acting. Maybe it was because I haven't seen the show in months, but was he always this terrible and I was just distracted by his beauty?

Prince Louis: Boring and naive, or devoted and principled?

Courtney: Boring and naive. I want to like him, I really do. But I find myself hardly listening when he talks. He may be the sweetest guy, and he is even a prince... but that still holds no competition against Chuck Bass or even Dan Humphrey. Time for the Prince and his bossy mother to go.

Christina: How about utterly boring and naive? Prince Louis didn’t once question Dan why he would write a story about HIS fiancé. 

Leigh: See above. Snoozefest.

Steve: Christina makes a great point above - On the heels of her liaison with Chuck last season, too. The fact that we're debating between THREE guys as the father of Baby Waldorf proves Louis' naivete.

Eric: Are we comparing him to the yacht-owning, building-jumping, motorcycle-riding Chuck? Then obviously boring and naive. But if we're comparing him to other princes, he's as exciting as Blair could ask for and seems ridiculously devoted to her. Shut up and take your fairytale ending, even if it is Monaco. Not everyone can be Kate Middleton and land England.

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Hardest to believe: Serena showing actual work ethic, Dan's book getting published immediately and anonymously, or Nate having a moment of self-reflection?

Courtney: This is such a difficult choice because they are all so hard to believe! I'm going to take Serena showing actual work ethic because Dan has been published before and Nate is old enough he should be able to do some self-reflection. There's no way the UES princess would be that devoted to getting coffee.

Christina: Serena and work ethic just don’t belong in the same sentence. I’m so used to seeing Serena as the damsel in distress or chasing boys that it’s hard to believe she’d actually succumb to the working world.

Leigh: Nate doing anything besides attracting cougars.

Steve: Dan has an awfully easy time getting published by elite magazines, but at least that's been consistent from the show's inception. Ditto for Nate being a bit of a lost soul. Serena showing real ambition, not motivated by her love interest du jour? Or deterred by setbacks? Now that caught me off guard.

Eric: First off, I just finished reading The Help, and let me tell you, they love publishing anonymous books and those things catch like wildfire. That check will be first of many. Just watch out for those tempting chocolate cakes. Now, let's be honest, Nate having a moment of any kind of thinking, even if it is marijuana-induced, is beyond comprehensible. Can we please just get him to sit in the corner and stop talking?

Did you miss Jenny, Eric and Vanessa?

Courtney: Honestly... no. Jenny and Eric had been so MIA over the past season, I hardly noticed they were gone. The only reason I noticed Vanessa wasn't around was because no one was wearing any ridiculous outfits. These three haven't had a really good story since the beginning of the series, if at all (Vanessa...). No loss coming from me.

Christina: How about none of the above? Jenny always ruined everything, Eric is kind of boring, and I’m sure I don’t need to explain my reasoning for Vanessa.

Leigh: I don't really miss any of them. If I had to pick, I'd say Eric, but I like Connor Paolo over at Revenge.

Steve: Jenny always stirred up drama. Eric was (usually) the show's moral compass. Both played key roles, felt like family and will be missed. As for she-who-must-not-be-named, my colleague will handle that:

Eric:
J: I think she just went a little heavy on the eye shadow and disappeared into the shadows. Not convinced she's gone.
E: Of course! But I know he's just on vacation in the Hamptons. Luckily we can still catch his adventures out there on Revenge. Not sure why they changed his name though. It's confusing.
V: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Good one, Steve.

Who is the father of Blair's baby?!

Courtney: Tough call. It can't be the Prince because that would just make to much sense since they are going to be getting married and all. Of course who wouldn't want it to be Chuck? Daddy Bass would be extremely hot. But I'm going with Humphrey. I'm thinking some things went on between these two that we haven't learned about yet. And hey, he probably is the most suited considering his short lived daddy to Georgina's kid.

Christina: I'm going with Chuck because I still believe in happy endings - even for our Upper Eastsiders.

Leigh: I'm gonna go with Chuck on this one. She took the pregnancy test before Monaco, and there was mention of how she and Louis spent all summer in bed. I think she knows it's Chuck's and had tons of sex with Louis to try and pass it off as his.

Steve: Dan, if only because that revelation would be the ultimate OMFG moment.

Eric: Dan. That guy is so potent even his kiss can impregnate a woman. Just ask G.

What do you think? Sound off in the comments!

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just to contradict a lot of you. I DID miss jenny, and eric. Vanessa not so much and I enjoyed the DAIR scenes and I love prince louis, but the baby cannot be dan's as much as i wish - because that would have been way too fast to hook up dan & blair and not show it. so it has to be chuck's... looking forward to see what they do with blair's pregnancy. hope she keeps the baby.

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I've decided to watch the episode more as a casual viewer, and I enjoyed very much CSN in LA. It was refreshing and fun. And yes, Blair looks miserable - prince has to go. The baby has to be Chuck's. How awesome can the offspring of Chuck and Blair can be! Who cares if they're both evil, at least it'll be worth-watching television.

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What was your favorite quote from the episode? So many Chuck Bass one-liners to choose from but I will go for "I'll stay here, alone with my genius." I fully intend to use it twice a week. What did you like and dislike most about the premiere? I loved seeing Serena, Nate and Chuck having fun in LA. It was light and enjoyable and the show certainly needs more bonding time between its main cast. I hated everything everything else. Prince Louis: Boring and naive, or devoted and principled? I'll play nice and say boring and naive even thought suffering through his scenes made me come up with a very interesting choice of words that are just not so nice. Hardest to believe: Serena showing actual work ethic, Dan's book getting published immediately and anonymously, or Nate having a moment of self-reflection? Dan's stories always get published for some reason or another and said reasons are always outside the realm of reality. But hey, we should all be used to it by now. So I'll go with Serena showing actual work ethic. Hard to believe but I still approve of this change. I hope it sticks. Did you miss Jenny, Eric and Vanessa? None of the above. But if I were at the point of a gun and needed to choose, then it would Jenny. The least self-righteous Humphrey and the only one I could actually put up with. Who is the father of Blair's baby?! Josh Safran. If he can't get people's attention long enough for them to know that he confirmed the father is either Chuck or Louis, then he can at least get a baby.
But since what I just said is contradictory, then Chuck's got to be the father. It was bound to happen sometime. And there is something about Chuck Bass fathering a baby that I find very appealing.

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Chuck Bass and his one-liners certainly owned the episode. That being said, I really do think the baby is Chuck's. It's the most obvious choice, but it's also the most dramatic for both Chuck and Blair's stories. Having it be Humphrey's would be shocking, yes, but it would also be REALLY hard for Serena and Blair to ever recover from that. That would be a heck of a lot of lies Blair told her best friend just to get knocked up by the love of S' life. Plus, I think it would be wonderful to see how potential fatherhood changes a man like Chuck Bass. We already know Louis and the Humpster would be upstanding models of fatherhood, so it's not really that interesting to me.

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Loved the round table! Chuck Bass quotes ftw :) I think it's pretty obvious the baby is Chuck's, and though I agree Blair was a little off her game this episode, I blame it on pregnancy hormones and Louis's tedious presence. I see your "boring and naive" and raise you a "completely and utterly useless". The idea of the baby potentially being Dan's does make me throw up in my own mouth a little, but fortunately Dan cannot actually impregnate women with the power of his mind, so... Anyway, I did enjoy some parts of the premiere, but GG just won't feel like GG against until we get everyone back in the same city.

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You know, any one of the 3 suiters for Blair would be an utterly romantic choice. I'm going to stop being so close-minded.
1. Louis is the prince of Monoco and we all know how hard it is to nab a prince! He will forfill Blairs lifelong dream. Plus he's pretty damn cute and romantically loves Blair unconditionally.
2. Chuck is CRAZY for Blair. The resident bad boy with stunningly good looks and can only be tamed by Blair. Their love story is epic.
3. Dan and Blair were certainly not love at first sight, in fact they used to downright HATE each other. But as Dan got to know the real Blair (a part of her that even WE haven't seen) in fell into a deep love for her. As Blair was forced to get to know the real Dan, she saw another side of him that she liked. Now the once "poor" (by UES standards) lonely boy will now be striking it rich from a book he wrote about his secret unrequited love for Blair. I can't wait to see who the daddy is :)

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What was your favorite quote from the episode?
Serena and Nate in unison, "He's Chuck Bass!" What did you like and dislike most about the premiere?
I like how they picture Serena, Chuck and Nate having fun together. I dislike this storyline about princes and fairytale. Louis just seem phony. Prince Louis: Boring and naive, or devoted and principled?
Boring and naive, and also, look above, phony. Hardest to believe: Serena showing actual work ethic, Dan's book getting published immediately and anonymously, or Nate having a moment of self-reflection?
Serena showing actual work ethic! Who knows she's such a good assistant. I'm loving Blake Lively...I mean, the new Serena. Did you miss Jenny, Eric and Vanessa?
Eric, yes. Jenny, a bit. Just because I miss my raccoon. And Vanessa? Wait, who's Vanessa? Who is the father of Blair's baby?!
Prince Louis'. Just because it's so obvious it's Chuck's.

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@ Manu: Though I agree Blair or the rest of the characters are too young for this type of storyline, we are obviously not watching the same show. And while I wouldn't have chosen this storyline for this show, I don't want a misscarriage or stillbirth, that's too heavy for any show and for this one even more.

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the best season for me of GG3 , wherein serena-nate teamup sizzled and has more balanced storyline for chuck, dan, serena, blair, nate and the rest of the cast. but GG 4( especially the 2nd half) revolves more on blair and if you will notice, the followers are less happy. why don't you give blake lively a more beefy role? let's face it, she can carry the show with a lot more weight

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Gossip Girl is not as exciting as it used to be. Theres no drama no good scandals, no OMFG moments like before. Im losing my interest.
Chuck should end up at Hospital, father should be Dan, Serenate would be nice, and i so so so miss Jenny-Blair conflicts, the high-school drama, the balls, the openings, actually i miss the first two seasons.