The Good Wife Review: Red Cups Runneth Over Comments (Page 2)
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Blu Rank: Regular Character
November 1st, 2011 10:57 AM
I wasn't all that invested this time around.
I'm at the age to know what a stoplight party is and I didn't. I don't care for Caitlin at all, what was the purpose of adding her? That crushing on Will thing is stale and below TGW standards to me.
I have a love/hate relationship with Cary, I didn't understand why he got so much unnecessary focus.Didn't care for his strained phonecall with Kalinda. I like Monica Raymund but what was the purpose of her this episode? While I was mildly amused at Cary liking ethnic women...shocker...not. Seriously, kudos to him...but I'm a bit biased so I'd say that anyways : ) I thought the entire aspect of that was stupid. Are ethnic women that interchangeable over there? What happened to his colleague that used to be his second chair? They stopped showing her, the black one, and upped showing him and Kalinda, the Indian one, and then brought in Rev's grandaughter, the other black one, and then went to Monica Raymund's character, the black/latina one.
I don't like Will and Alicia together. I think they don't really have chemistry and I do not trust Will. he seems to "young" for Alicia who actually needs someone who is grounded and knows what he wants from life. Will has not really decided what he wants and as his ex-girlfriend said he will probably disappoint Alicia. I do not care much for this office-romance and it's too soapy for my taste. I have nothing against soaps, but when I watch TGW I expect something different. Too much Caitlin and her crushing on Will was ridiculous. I hope they do not continue with this. I wasn't really bothered by the Rape App (it's a really good idea actually!), I found it ridiculous that Eli's ex-wife slept with an Osama-Bin-Laden cousin and the case was just confused. If the Taiwanese guy has lived in the States for some amount of time then why wouldn't he get accustomed to some things like doing his signature differently. Europeans write dates differently (DD.MM.YY) or the time with 24 hours instead
Ann
November 1st, 2011 4:11 AM
I really do not like them to repeat the same plot, the plot often does not work. Such as Will's women, Alicia's naive. They really can not compile a better story? This time, they made a mistake of the Chinese' last name and first name. I was a little disappointed. I know the writer is not easy. But I really do not want, they have lost us, the original audience.
anna Rank: Recurring Character
October 31st, 2011 8:41 PM
yay I love Cary! I'm so happy he got a big office and a promotion!
farsia2010 Rank: Recurring Character
October 31st, 2011 6:32 PM
i love the good wife, i love this show but this time i don't know what to say, i truly don't. i don't even know if i liked the ep if i didn't.
ros
October 31st, 2011 5:22 PM
To add to my last post. I think it's fantastic that CBS have been brave enough to make a woman in her 40s the central character. We have been obsessed with youth for so long, so to see a woman who is sexy, sassy and intelligent beyond the youth years is really good.I hope she doesn't become a victim and I hope Alicia and Will have a good outcome.
ros
October 31st, 2011 4:42 PM
I was disappointed in the overall plot but liked some bits. I have teenage children the same age as those in the series and whilst largely self-obsessed they do occasionally think beyond their own world, see me as an individual rather than just their mother and show genuine concern for my well being. So I would like to see Zach and Grace use their already demonstrated detective skills to work out that something is making their Mum happy and I think it would be brilliant if they decided to interrogate Kalinda believing that she is still their mother's friend. Kalinda should tell them that Will is good for their mother and they should surprise her with an endorsement of her relationship as they are getting in the lift to spend a weekend with their father.Will's kack handiness with Zach was hilarious. Don't like the implications of the new Kirstie character. It's too predictable. Subtlety has been the beauty of this show so far and would hate to see it descend into well trodden format. Al
marie.d Rank: Guest Star
October 31st, 2011 3:49 PM
I thought this episode was sub-par by TGW standards because of how it attempted to base its story-lines on headlines without any subtlety.Making the smarmy Dutch boy look like the murderer(as in that Bahamian murder),then it turning out to be the Taiwanese was pretty shabby writing.It had been pointed out that there was only a single hair of the victim found on the Asian boy,so how did he manage to rape and murder a girl on a crowded boat without leaving or getting any more trace evidence on him than anyone who walked by that girl?That receipt proves he doesn't have an alibi, but not that its an open and shut case that he's guilty and I was surprised that Alicia would take such flimsy evidence as gospel truth.This show hasn't been in the habit of this kind of sloppiness and I hope they don't start.The legal cases are not the main reason why I watch but their handling by both the writers and the characters are a good part of what attracted me to the show.
Mary
October 31st, 2011 3:31 PM
Alicia is confusing in her 'yes/no' attitude toward Will. Perhaps she is finding out that her husband is not the only man who will let her down, big time.
The scene with Will & Zach was hysterical and very realistic. Zach has heard 'things' about Will & his mom so his monosyllabic response were spot on.
Eli's expression when Vanessa touched him in the park broke my heart. Their fight in the office snapped me back to reality regarding this divorced pair and was very good indeed. Hope Parker Posey comes back.
Kalinda being hesitant with facts regarding Eli's ex-wife were not out of character. She didn't want to tell this proud and difficult man that he had been cuckolded in his marriage and with whom. Ouch! Loved Eli's dismissal by picking up the folder to read through.
This is a great show & this growth spurt may not make everyone comfortable, but this episode certainly was not as bad as this columnist makes it out.
Straight Out
October 31st, 2011 3:24 PM
As usual Alicia pulled the big lie card on the kids again about what she does when they are away, the look on Graces face told it all she know mom was lying. The Will meeting Zach part was just as I had hoped for, he didn't like the way Will tried to pussy foot around (Zach and Grace both know about the college thing).
When are the writers going to put a show together that makes sense of where this office BS is going and put it to an end. It is getting sickening every week watching a soap opera on who is with who. Put Peter in more episodes and spice it up where alot of people get very nervous.
GA Viewer
October 31st, 2011 2:11 PM
I was floored to realize that Will has never met (or even seen) Alicia's children. As long as she has worked there and as close as her family has been to her job, it's unimaginable that there would have been NO event where the kids weren't at least introduced to co-workers, especially the managing partners. All the scenes involving the kids in this episode seemed forced and unnatural - especially the way they were grilling their mother about what she does with her time (and with whom) when they aren't around. For one thing, teenagers don't really think about their parents having a personal life and, for another, well-bred kids would never pry that way. The writers tried to cover by implying they were concerned that she was lonely, but that doesn't fly. My first thought was they had been prompted by their father or grandmother to tell what they knew about Alicia's life - after all there is a divorce settlement and custody agreement waiting in the wings - and that made me think less of t
bigheadgirl Rank: Extra
October 31st, 2011 1:42 PM
I liked the focus on Cary and Matan. I've always liked Carey (really wanted him to hook up with Kalinda.)
I think a good show has many stories and not just teh one, Alica and Will.
Correct observation about Carey and 'ethnic' women. (Just good taste?)
I was a nervous for Alicia though when her children start questioning what she did when they were away. I think she was too. And also when Will and Zack met and he hesitated about their meeting, only to say he really wanted a car.
I could see the relief in her face.
Allison
October 31st, 2011 1:02 PM
This is the first episode that I was rooting for Cary. Usually I am suspicious of his motives but here he was being a good soldier and getting dumped on at every turn. Then when he achieved the Name on the Door I couldn't help but grin for him.
Agree with the general reaction on this site that this was the show's lamest episode. It didn't really advance the long-term story or provide much suspense.
Melissa
October 31st, 2011 12:46 PM
This wasn't my favorite episode but I don't agree with the review that is was horrible either. I like seeing what makes the other characters tick so it doesn't bother me to see them focus more on the others.
I love Parker Posey and was delighted with her turn although I agree the whole Bin Laden thing was a stretch. Hopefully she will recur.
I thought the Will and Zack conversation was painfully hilarious. I keep getting mixed signals from Alicia in regards to how serious she is with Will. She didn't want him to meet her kids but I definitely got the sense when Caitlin was talking to Will, she steered her away quickly with a sort of "Get away from my man" demeanor about her. Did anyone else think that? It is clear that Will wants more from her than she is giving, but I agree the
reason is unclear. I don't think (or don't want to think:) it is about lack of love, but more fear of acknowledging the relationship. I hope they address this soon cause, for me at least, the lack of cla
sarah
October 31st, 2011 12:41 PM
This was one of the worst episodes of this show yet. Poor Matt Czuchry can't carry the hour, so to speak. The only high point of his scenes were Monica Raymund, who would actually be a much better fit for the show. Her character actually seemed to have some intelligence and the wherewithal to be a prosecutor.
A
October 31st, 2011 12:20 PM
"How many times have you seen even a third generation Chinese American guy with a white woman on a date"
What rock do you live under? I know couples that did better than just date, they got married...
Leigh
October 31st, 2011 11:46 AM
It's a stoplight party, not a spotlight party. The cup are the colors and meaning of the colors on a stoplight.
Too much time was spent this week on characters we didn't know very well. Caitlin. Dana. Matan. I didn't feel invested in most of the hour's developments.
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Totally agree!Do they have no story yet compiled?
Dawn
October 31st, 2011 9:43 AM
Just watched the Zach & Will scene - so awkward! Loved it!
DW
October 31st, 2011 9:25 AM
@Luc..agree completely. It was the best episode so far. It was terrific. Cary is an outstanding character and a plesure to watch. Realy like Dana and seeing Matan jealous of Cary. This review is the worst I've ever read for TGW. It should be applauded that they are developing the other characters instead of the usual "Saint Alicia" somehow wins weekly story. The review missed everyting about the episode. This is surprising since this site normally is on target. You missed badly this week. This was the best episode yet and thoroughly enjoyable. Bad, very bad review.
Priscila
October 31st, 2011 9:23 AM
I really liked some points of the episode. The scene with Zach and Will, for example. For me, Alicia don't wanna they to meet for obvious reasons: she is married with the District Attorney, if even it's a bad marriage. Let's not forget that Zach and Grace are like Alicia, very 'wright or wrong'.
The case this week was not my focus. Why? Because the writers didn't make it to be. I prefer thinking of the Will-Alicia or in the Eli-Vanessa story line. The promotion of Cary was deserved, but the whole story with Dana seemed out of nowhere.
HOWEVER, in three seasons this is the first bad episode I see. Not entirely bad, but bad for the series. It happens.
Gary
October 31st, 2011 9:16 AM
Isn't this the type of episode a show does in Season 7 when the original main cast on made cameos and third rate faceless young actors fill in key scenes?
The Worst episode, ever of the Good Wife!
The only saving grace was guest star Parker Posey, and can we say that Joe Morton was absolutely wasted in he's few minutes of talk about nothing in the kitchen. I have never seen the show Lie To Me, so I have zero knowledge about Monica Raymund. Sorry, but she didn't leave much of an impression on me. The car scenes with Cary was cringe worthy.
Rarely does the Good Wife fail, but this was a C episode. Too much Cary and sour-puss Maton Brody.
George
October 31st, 2011 8:40 AM
How many times have you seen even a third generation Chinese American guy with a white woman on a date, let alone a foreign Chinese being a murder suspect in the death of a white woman? Either the writers are trying to get a false new stereotype of a murderer going regarding a male of another non-white group (this time an Asian) or they are deluded or on drugs. In the entire history of the US, there has been no diplomatic incident involving Asian diplomats other than suspected spying...which means no shoplifting, no armed robbery or attempted rape, let alone murder of a white American female! Hence this episode was devoid of reality and therefore I agree with Lilli that this is the worst episode so far!
I love the tensed look Alicia get, when Zach stop on his way out from Alicia´s office after telling about Will stopping by. She is probably afraid of Zach asking if Alicia is dating Will :-)
Veronica: Do you love my daughter? Will: I'm sorry? Veronica: Because if you do it's time to stop being polite about it, You have a window, but it's closing....
Rank: Regular Character
November 1st, 2011 10:57 AM
I wasn't all that invested this time around.
I'm at the age to know what a stoplight party is and I didn't. I don't care for Caitlin at all, what was the purpose of adding her? That crushing on Will thing is stale and below TGW standards to me.
I have a love/hate relationship with Cary, I didn't understand why he got so much unnecessary focus.Didn't care for his strained phonecall with Kalinda. I like Monica Raymund but what was the purpose of her this episode? While I was mildly amused at Cary liking ethnic women...shocker...not. Seriously, kudos to him...but I'm a bit biased so I'd say that anyways : ) I thought the entire aspect of that was stupid. Are ethnic women that interchangeable over there? What happened to his colleague that used to be his second chair? They stopped showing her, the black one, and upped showing him and Kalinda, the Indian one, and then brought in Rev's grandaughter, the other black one, and then went to Monica Raymund's character, the black/latina one.
Rank: Leading Character
November 1st, 2011 9:39 AM
I don't like Will and Alicia together. I think they don't really have chemistry and I do not trust Will. he seems to "young" for Alicia who actually needs someone who is grounded and knows what he wants from life. Will has not really decided what he wants and as his ex-girlfriend said he will probably disappoint Alicia. I do not care much for this office-romance and it's too soapy for my taste. I have nothing against soaps, but when I watch TGW I expect something different. Too much Caitlin and her crushing on Will was ridiculous. I hope they do not continue with this. I wasn't really bothered by the Rape App (it's a really good idea actually!), I found it ridiculous that Eli's ex-wife slept with an Osama-Bin-Laden cousin and the case was just confused. If the Taiwanese guy has lived in the States for some amount of time then why wouldn't he get accustomed to some things like doing his signature differently. Europeans write dates differently (DD.MM.YY) or the time with 24 hours instead
November 1st, 2011 4:11 AM
I really do not like them to repeat the same plot, the plot often does not work. Such as Will's women, Alicia's naive. They really can not compile a better story? This time, they made a mistake of the Chinese' last name and first name. I was a little disappointed. I know the writer is not easy. But I really do not want, they have lost us, the original audience.
Rank: Recurring Character
October 31st, 2011 8:41 PM
yay I love Cary! I'm so happy he got a big office and a promotion!
Rank: Recurring Character
October 31st, 2011 6:32 PM
i love the good wife, i love this show but this time i don't know what to say, i truly don't. i don't even know if i liked the ep if i didn't.
October 31st, 2011 5:22 PM
To add to my last post. I think it's fantastic that CBS have been brave enough to make a woman in her 40s the central character. We have been obsessed with youth for so long, so to see a woman who is sexy, sassy and intelligent beyond the youth years is really good.I hope she doesn't become a victim and I hope Alicia and Will have a good outcome.
October 31st, 2011 4:42 PM
I was disappointed in the overall plot but liked some bits. I have teenage children the same age as those in the series and whilst largely self-obsessed they do occasionally think beyond their own world, see me as an individual rather than just their mother and show genuine concern for my well being. So I would like to see Zach and Grace use their already demonstrated detective skills to work out that something is making their Mum happy and I think it would be brilliant if they decided to interrogate Kalinda believing that she is still their mother's friend. Kalinda should tell them that Will is good for their mother and they should surprise her with an endorsement of her relationship as they are getting in the lift to spend a weekend with their father.Will's kack handiness with Zach was hilarious. Don't like the implications of the new Kirstie character. It's too predictable. Subtlety has been the beauty of this show so far and would hate to see it descend into well trodden format. Al
Rank: Guest Star
October 31st, 2011 3:49 PM
I thought this episode was sub-par by TGW standards because of how it attempted to base its story-lines on headlines without any subtlety.Making the smarmy Dutch boy look like the murderer(as in that Bahamian murder),then it turning out to be the Taiwanese was pretty shabby writing.It had been pointed out that there was only a single hair of the victim found on the Asian boy,so how did he manage to rape and murder a girl on a crowded boat without leaving or getting any more trace evidence on him than anyone who walked by that girl?That receipt proves he doesn't have an alibi, but not that its an open and shut case that he's guilty and I was surprised that Alicia would take such flimsy evidence as gospel truth.This show hasn't been in the habit of this kind of sloppiness and I hope they don't start.The legal cases are not the main reason why I watch but their handling by both the writers and the characters are a good part of what attracted me to the show.
October 31st, 2011 3:31 PM
Alicia is confusing in her 'yes/no' attitude toward Will. Perhaps she is finding out that her husband is not the only man who will let her down, big time.
The scene with Will & Zach was hysterical and very realistic. Zach has heard 'things' about Will & his mom so his monosyllabic response were spot on.
Eli's expression when Vanessa touched him in the park broke my heart. Their fight in the office snapped me back to reality regarding this divorced pair and was very good indeed. Hope Parker Posey comes back.
Kalinda being hesitant with facts regarding Eli's ex-wife were not out of character. She didn't want to tell this proud and difficult man that he had been cuckolded in his marriage and with whom. Ouch! Loved Eli's dismissal by picking up the folder to read through.
This is a great show & this growth spurt may not make everyone comfortable, but this episode certainly was not as bad as this columnist makes it out.
October 31st, 2011 3:24 PM
As usual Alicia pulled the big lie card on the kids again about what she does when they are away, the look on Graces face told it all she know mom was lying. The Will meeting Zach part was just as I had hoped for, he didn't like the way Will tried to pussy foot around (Zach and Grace both know about the college thing).
When are the writers going to put a show together that makes sense of where this office BS is going and put it to an end. It is getting sickening every week watching a soap opera on who is with who. Put Peter in more episodes and spice it up where alot of people get very nervous.
October 31st, 2011 2:11 PM
I was floored to realize that Will has never met (or even seen) Alicia's children. As long as she has worked there and as close as her family has been to her job, it's unimaginable that there would have been NO event where the kids weren't at least introduced to co-workers, especially the managing partners. All the scenes involving the kids in this episode seemed forced and unnatural - especially the way they were grilling their mother about what she does with her time (and with whom) when they aren't around. For one thing, teenagers don't really think about their parents having a personal life and, for another, well-bred kids would never pry that way. The writers tried to cover by implying they were concerned that she was lonely, but that doesn't fly. My first thought was they had been prompted by their father or grandmother to tell what they knew about Alicia's life - after all there is a divorce settlement and custody agreement waiting in the wings - and that made me think less of t
Rank: Extra
October 31st, 2011 1:42 PM
I liked the focus on Cary and Matan. I've always liked Carey (really wanted him to hook up with Kalinda.)
I think a good show has many stories and not just teh one, Alica and Will.
Correct observation about Carey and 'ethnic' women. (Just good taste?)
I was a nervous for Alicia though when her children start questioning what she did when they were away. I think she was too. And also when Will and Zack met and he hesitated about their meeting, only to say he really wanted a car.
I could see the relief in her face.
October 31st, 2011 1:02 PM
This is the first episode that I was rooting for Cary. Usually I am suspicious of his motives but here he was being a good soldier and getting dumped on at every turn. Then when he achieved the Name on the Door I couldn't help but grin for him.
Agree with the general reaction on this site that this was the show's lamest episode. It didn't really advance the long-term story or provide much suspense.
October 31st, 2011 12:46 PM
This wasn't my favorite episode but I don't agree with the review that is was horrible either. I like seeing what makes the other characters tick so it doesn't bother me to see them focus more on the others.
I love Parker Posey and was delighted with her turn although I agree the whole Bin Laden thing was a stretch. Hopefully she will recur.
I thought the Will and Zack conversation was painfully hilarious. I keep getting mixed signals from Alicia in regards to how serious she is with Will. She didn't want him to meet her kids but I definitely got the sense when Caitlin was talking to Will, she steered her away quickly with a sort of "Get away from my man" demeanor about her. Did anyone else think that? It is clear that Will wants more from her than she is giving, but I agree the
reason is unclear. I don't think (or don't want to think:) it is about lack of love, but more fear of acknowledging the relationship. I hope they address this soon cause, for me at least, the lack of cla
October 31st, 2011 12:41 PM
This was one of the worst episodes of this show yet. Poor Matt Czuchry can't carry the hour, so to speak. The only high point of his scenes were Monica Raymund, who would actually be a much better fit for the show. Her character actually seemed to have some intelligence and the wherewithal to be a prosecutor.
October 31st, 2011 12:20 PM
"How many times have you seen even a third generation Chinese American guy with a white woman on a date"
What rock do you live under? I know couples that did better than just date, they got married...
October 31st, 2011 11:46 AM
It's a stoplight party, not a spotlight party. The cup are the colors and meaning of the colors on a stoplight.
Rank: New User
October 31st, 2011 11:44 AM
Do not like A Good Wife anyway--overrated!!
October 31st, 2011 9:59 AM
Too much time was spent this week on characters we didn't know very well. Caitlin. Dana. Matan. I didn't feel invested in most of the hour's developments.
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Totally agree!Do they have no story yet compiled?
October 31st, 2011 9:43 AM
Just watched the Zach & Will scene - so awkward! Loved it!
October 31st, 2011 9:25 AM
@Luc..agree completely. It was the best episode so far. It was terrific. Cary is an outstanding character and a plesure to watch. Realy like Dana and seeing Matan jealous of Cary. This review is the worst I've ever read for TGW. It should be applauded that they are developing the other characters instead of the usual "Saint Alicia" somehow wins weekly story. The review missed everyting about the episode. This is surprising since this site normally is on target. You missed badly this week. This was the best episode yet and thoroughly enjoyable. Bad, very bad review.
October 31st, 2011 9:23 AM
I really liked some points of the episode. The scene with Zach and Will, for example. For me, Alicia don't wanna they to meet for obvious reasons: she is married with the District Attorney, if even it's a bad marriage. Let's not forget that Zach and Grace are like Alicia, very 'wright or wrong'.
The case this week was not my focus. Why? Because the writers didn't make it to be. I prefer thinking of the Will-Alicia or in the Eli-Vanessa story line. The promotion of Cary was deserved, but the whole story with Dana seemed out of nowhere.
HOWEVER, in three seasons this is the first bad episode I see. Not entirely bad, but bad for the series. It happens.
October 31st, 2011 9:16 AM
Isn't this the type of episode a show does in Season 7 when the original main cast on made cameos and third rate faceless young actors fill in key scenes?
The Worst episode, ever of the Good Wife!
The only saving grace was guest star Parker Posey, and can we say that Joe Morton was absolutely wasted in he's few minutes of talk about nothing in the kitchen. I have never seen the show Lie To Me, so I have zero knowledge about Monica Raymund. Sorry, but she didn't leave much of an impression on me. The car scenes with Cary was cringe worthy.
Rarely does the Good Wife fail, but this was a C episode. Too much Cary and sour-puss Maton Brody.
October 31st, 2011 8:40 AM
How many times have you seen even a third generation Chinese American guy with a white woman on a date, let alone a foreign Chinese being a murder suspect in the death of a white woman? Either the writers are trying to get a false new stereotype of a murderer going regarding a male of another non-white group (this time an Asian) or they are deluded or on drugs. In the entire history of the US, there has been no diplomatic incident involving Asian diplomats other than suspected spying...which means no shoplifting, no armed robbery or attempted rape, let alone murder of a white American female! Hence this episode was devoid of reality and therefore I agree with Lilli that this is the worst episode so far!
Rank: New User
October 31st, 2011 8:11 AM
I love the tensed look Alicia get, when Zach stop on his way out from Alicia´s office after telling about Will stopping by. She is probably afraid of Zach asking if Alicia is dating Will :-)