Sons of Anarchy Review: Playing Jax Comments (Page 2)
44 Comments
Kyles
December 7th, 2011 10:54 PM
Yes the similarities are interesting between "lincoln Potter" and john teller. If you go back to season 1, Gemma states to Jax that Tellers don't give up easily. That his father was dragged 168 yards and live two whole days before dying. Then you have to think about his life being threatened before he died, his story and with knowing his life would be on the line, he could have signed a deal and faked his death. "Lincoln Potter" knows the ins and outs of the club. And Otto actually asking him, "who are you?" to be told he is just district attorney Lincoln potter and Otto just nods and smiles. But the comment as he walks out the door,,,hmmm yes its interesting.
svetlana
December 1st, 2011 8:32 AM
Donnie- your comment made me laugh! I still can't look at "Aceveda" the same. I've seen him on a few shows and always fast forward his scenes. That was truly the most disturbing thing ive ever seen.
chili
December 1st, 2011 7:50 AM
why does everybody think potter is john teller?! gemma *talked* to him face to face. don't you think she'd remember what her ex-husband looks like?? i mean yeah he has a similar look going but there is no way potter IS jt. maybe he knew him, maybe he's... i don't know a far cousin or something if we're gonna stick with that idea but there's no way the guy *is* jt. that's bullshit. that would change the *entire* story of the series, i mean come on!
and as for sutter saying there won't be any cliffhangers, i'm honestly curious how he's gonna tie up ALL those loose ends in one 45 minute episode. seriously, there's so much left, there's juice's dilemma, bobby's incarceration, otto's ratting or not, romeo's deceit, the deal with the irish, the whole clay thing, the rest of the club finding out about piney and possibly the letters, wendy's threat, the niner's retaliation, the club finding out about opie shooting clay, jax killing clay OR NOT, and isn't romeo's hatchet man still after tara
Donnie
December 1st, 2011 7:40 AM
Tara - I think that aspect about medical expertise is an interesting angle. The syringe probably has Tara's fingerprints, but definitely has Jax's. We could see Tara in some serious trouble with the law due to attempted murder charges.
Clay - Following the Tara point above, I don't see how he can be killed off. He's the guy we love to hate. I think Tara will be charged with attempted murder and Clay will be moved into WITSEC; the manhunt is on to find Clay's safe house next season before the trial.
Potter - No way Potter is JT, that would be nonsense. I could see some connection being made that Potter and JT served together or are distant relatives, but definitely not JT. I'd really love to see Potter and Happy in a room together though. Man, I loved that line "He's gotta die...like a lot". Happy is stone cold.
Romeo - I don't think he's the rat. My money has always been on Torres (Formerly known as "The Mouth Raped Aceveda"" - craziest scene on cable). I just kind of
Tacracso
December 1st, 2011 12:33 AM
Tara doesn't need to die for Jax to stay. "I'm smarter than you and I know Jax better than you do. He's mine." Gemma does not like to be stepped on or to lose. I think Jax will hesitate at killing Cliff but Gemma will inject Cliff and conveniently leave the evidence in the room which she can tell Jax that she dropped it because someone walked in on her as she was doing it and couldn't recover it before it was found and she is really, really sorry (right,sarcasm here, it's Gemma, you know!). They will determine that one would need the special knowledge that only a doctor would know and it is traced back to Tara. This keeps Jax in Charming so he is near Tara through the legal proceedings. Sets the stage for more turmoil for Jax with his ex around and a set of new circumstances for child custody battle. Gemma remains the Queen Bee.
Lori Weeks Rank: New User
November 30th, 2011 11:52 PM
I thought Romeo was a rat from the first episode where Jax and Opie are ambushed. He shows up, guns blazing, when they literally had only been being held for a very short time....at that point I said he's a rat...not saying he's a cop but he's a rat. I think that Potter is related to JT and Jax, and is out for Clay. I dont think we will have any idea though until next season, but we will see! I love how Tara's character has evolved and I think wont die...she will probably play an even bigger role in the series next season. I think Niners will be postponed until next season, Wendy too.
dawn dobler
November 30th, 2011 10:54 PM
nice touch with sonny barger in this episode that was real.this is gonna be some last episode I can`t wait a whole week!
JonGurn
November 30th, 2011 6:58 PM
No way potter is John teller. JT wouldn't put a young member like juice in such danger. Plus they have a photo of JT at the clubhouse, juice would recognize him.
Karla
November 30th, 2011 5:35 PM
First off I loved Tara's tell me that you love me that she used to gauge how truthful she thought they were. As far as Romeo goes he did not make the call to Stockton himself and I cannot help but think that who we thought was the rat at the beginning of the Season was not and that Romeo got bad intel or else he gave Jax bad intel because he is dirty/not sure which yet.
Worried that Tara will get it either still through Clay's hit or the 9er's eye for an eye thing in retaliation. Gemma overplayed her hand and not sure why as she is usually smarter than that.....
I also read more into things than I should I think at times but cannot help myself as Sutter is good with those subliminal messages like the homeless lady who pops up from time to time
Finally who was Jax talking to(himself)when he walked away from Tig??? Also Sutter Tweeted last night that there would be no cliff hanger per se and I do not see this all tied up in a bow next week
Lastly best line of the night goes to
Kamarra
November 30th, 2011 4:34 PM
Romeo obviously lied to Jax...it's his way of making sure his deal with Samcro is secure. Unfortunately, despite what Jax says and hopes, he won't leave Samcro. I'm not sure exactly what will keep him there (Tara dying, the club falling apart with missing members and attacks from all sides), but he'll find a way to prolong his stay and somehow I don't see Tara staying with him (if she doesn't die).
diana
November 30th, 2011 4:17 PM
Be nice to see more HAMC
Donna
November 30th, 2011 4:11 PM
Just have to add...... Otto met him but he can't see and Juice met him too but Juice is not the original 9. I do not think the new members knows what John Teller looks like and when Gemma was looking at the pictures, I swear that was Lincoln Potter.
donna
November 30th, 2011 4:02 PM
Does anyone think Lincoln Potter is John Teller. Gemma was the only one to meet him outside the florist and " " Don't I know you or have we met before? I think John Teller faked his death, as we all know, no one gets out but by death. perfect plan on his part, if that is the case. now he is back to clean up the club and get Charming back to the way it was before they tried to kill him!!!!!
Jason
November 30th, 2011 3:29 PM
No no no no no sir, Tara does NOT have to die… they just made her 4 times more interesting between Wendy coming back, the fate of her hand being up in the air, her becoming essentially a younger Gemma, and she still has two sons to raise and her man to look after or else he will be overrun by the club’s messes.
Gemma had to become Gemma somewhere along the line folks she wasn’t always the Gemma we know and love.. hence Sutter bringing out that picture and reminding Gemma of a time before all this, and reminding us people aren't just born into Gemma's kind of mindset. Gemma’s event that made her cross over was JT cheating on her, and this is Tara’s event. Personally I am loving watching the descent of Tara… or some could argue, the ascent of Tara. I believe something happens where Tara realizes they can't leave, at least not right away... and that most likely will be Jax getting arrested at the meet next week.
Sablja
November 30th, 2011 1:51 PM
songs in this episode To be:act1
Terrible Tommy by Ryan Horne
Starts after jax gets the letter, dies out for a bit, then picks up again in the end
Burn It Down by AWOLNATION
The scene where tigs is going rogue against the niners
Crimson and Clover by Tommy James & The Shondells
Tig waits in the car to approach Leroy
Zombie1369
November 30th, 2011 1:33 PM
Wow!! This season is awesome! We knew or hoped that it would come down to Jax vs Clay and it finally has. Watching Tara manipulate and out play Gemma at her own game...amazing!! And to see Gemma sit there stunned was amazing. Not too upset that Opie wasn't in this part of the finale, he had to get the hell out of town so that the Niner attack story would seem credible. Really worried as to what is gonna happen to Bobby and Juice and the fallout of Otto ratting on the club. I got the same feeling as some of you - that Romeo is playing a game as well by lying to Jax.
I don't feel like Tara has to be killed off for Jax to stay, I think Jax is starting to realize a few important things:
that something is going on in terms of Otto and the possible ramifications that could come into play IF he did rat - the realization that Clay killed his old man/Piney/Donna and his attempt on Tara - the possibility of his mom knowing more than she let on about this whole thing - the leadership ability
i really like Phil...he brings balance and sweet humor to the show. Unlike Rat, Phil pulled the trigger on himself without hesitation (even though he did throw up after). i am a fan of Phil.
i just don't see any way Jax stays in Charming unless his reason for leaving is dead. i just don't see any way around Tara being killed in the final episode.
About Romeo being an informant...a few episodes ago Romeo killed 3 or 4 Mexican guards playing cards in cold blood and in front of the Sons. Do informants or agents have that much leeway?
Jax saved Leroy's life, and it wasn't Jax who killed Leroy's girlfriend...there will be retaliation on the Sons but i don't think it will be on Tara.
There is no way Jax is going to kill Clay. Why, i think Jax feels more rage toward his Mother.
As for Gemma, i will give her credit for trying to salvage what she "worked 20 years for" BUT, using her own Son to murder for her? The better plan is if Jax makes Gemma have to live with Cla
James Mller
November 30th, 2011 12:08 PM
Gemma took out some of the papers before she gave them to Jax and told him about Clay, and why did she put the picture of her and J.T. on the floor in the storage unit? She is hiding something, The imvolvement in J.T's death? And lets not forget that Tera has read (all) the papers so she knows about Gemmas imvolvement in Jax's dads death. Also the hit on Tera is still on remember, so does she get killed for Jax to stay in Charming and take the helm as president of S.O.A.cause you know he isn't going anywhere. Will Jax get back with Wendy after Tera's death now that she is straight again to keep his son? and the lawyers of of him.
Tony
November 30th, 2011 12:07 PM
My prediction, sad as it is: Tara has to die. If Tara is still alive, Jax and Tara leave town, and that doesn't leave the show as much to work with next season. If Tara's dead, Jax stays because he needs Gemma's help to raise the boys. Also, don't we have the cartel still after Tara? With Clay in the hospital, they're going to think they have to take care of Tara themselves. It also sets up some nice story lines re: custody of Abel for next season. My bet isn't the Niners killing Tara. It's the cartel.
Diana
November 30th, 2011 11:46 AM
I gotta say, the first 5 minutes almost lost me. I thought it was kind of a cop out - not only did Clay survive with 2 bullets in him, but as he's lying there he's masterminding yet another cover up about how he got shot. That's pretty much all that's happened this seasons - lies, cover-ups, back-stabbing...it just goes in circles.
But I was sucked back in by the end. Tara was awesome. I missed Opie too - way under-utilized.
tim
November 30th, 2011 11:39 AM
i have no idea how Kurt will rap this up in one episode. cartel, potter, niners, juice, clay, wendy, tara and the irish. what a show. now hoping justified can keep up.
Tanya
November 30th, 2011 11:31 AM
Great episode. I can't wait until next week. Tara outplaying (at least temporarily) Gemma was priceless. She certainly learned from the past, but Gemma is the Queen for a reason; I definitely wouldn't count her out. I don't think Romeo is a Fed, but he may be setting up SAMCRO to take the fall for him and the IRA. I can see him taking out the middle man (SAMCRO) and work directly with the IRA. I think he realizes that all the SAMCRO crap endangers his organization. I can't wait to see how it all turns out!
Suzie
November 30th, 2011 10:22 AM
OK, people, we're now down to the wire. The acting last night was great for Jax, Gemma and Tara. Didn't expect Tara to go "Gemma" on Gemma. She turned the tables on her and the look on Gemma's face was priceless. Don't count 'mama' out yet- she's a better player at the game of deceit. At first, when Tara kept asking people "Do you love me?", I thought she was gonna commit suicide. Glad that didn't happen! Romeo is either a fed or a liar to get the guns from the Irish. And don't even get me started about DA Potter- creepy. I have a feeling he has a personal agenda against the Sons. Watch out for the Sheriff- he seems to have had enough from Potter. And may be the one to turn next. Can't wait till next week!
Sally
November 30th, 2011 9:26 AM
I don't think it's fair to see some of the character's questionable actions or hesitations as holes in the plot/story, simply because, yes, if you look at it from a "we are watching a show that writers sat and thought about for weeks/months - why would they let the character's do [whatever]". But, the truth of the matter is, they are suppose to be real people making on-spot decisions, and people will do things that don't make sense all the time. I think Sutter wants us to believe these are real people and their decisions and dialog weren't planned out. Just my thought - I don't agree or understand everything that everyone does on the show, but I don't agree or understand what people do in real life sometimes either.
Gemma: How's the ass? Lyla: How's it look? Gemma: Like a snack.
December 7th, 2011 10:54 PM
Yes the similarities are interesting between "lincoln Potter" and john teller. If you go back to season 1, Gemma states to Jax that Tellers don't give up easily. That his father was dragged 168 yards and live two whole days before dying. Then you have to think about his life being threatened before he died, his story and with knowing his life would be on the line, he could have signed a deal and faked his death. "Lincoln Potter" knows the ins and outs of the club. And Otto actually asking him, "who are you?" to be told he is just district attorney Lincoln potter and Otto just nods and smiles. But the comment as he walks out the door,,,hmmm yes its interesting.
December 1st, 2011 8:32 AM
Donnie- your comment made me laugh! I still can't look at "Aceveda" the same. I've seen him on a few shows and always fast forward his scenes. That was truly the most disturbing thing ive ever seen.
December 1st, 2011 7:50 AM
why does everybody think potter is john teller?! gemma *talked* to him face to face. don't you think she'd remember what her ex-husband looks like?? i mean yeah he has a similar look going but there is no way potter IS jt. maybe he knew him, maybe he's... i don't know a far cousin or something if we're gonna stick with that idea but there's no way the guy *is* jt. that's bullshit. that would change the *entire* story of the series, i mean come on!
and as for sutter saying there won't be any cliffhangers, i'm honestly curious how he's gonna tie up ALL those loose ends in one 45 minute episode. seriously, there's so much left, there's juice's dilemma, bobby's incarceration, otto's ratting or not, romeo's deceit, the deal with the irish, the whole clay thing, the rest of the club finding out about piney and possibly the letters, wendy's threat, the niner's retaliation, the club finding out about opie shooting clay, jax killing clay OR NOT, and isn't romeo's hatchet man still after tara
December 1st, 2011 7:40 AM
Tara - I think that aspect about medical expertise is an interesting angle. The syringe probably has Tara's fingerprints, but definitely has Jax's. We could see Tara in some serious trouble with the law due to attempted murder charges.
Clay - Following the Tara point above, I don't see how he can be killed off. He's the guy we love to hate. I think Tara will be charged with attempted murder and Clay will be moved into WITSEC; the manhunt is on to find Clay's safe house next season before the trial.
Potter - No way Potter is JT, that would be nonsense. I could see some connection being made that Potter and JT served together or are distant relatives, but definitely not JT. I'd really love to see Potter and Happy in a room together though. Man, I loved that line "He's gotta die...like a lot". Happy is stone cold.
Romeo - I don't think he's the rat. My money has always been on Torres (Formerly known as "The Mouth Raped Aceveda"" - craziest scene on cable). I just kind of
December 1st, 2011 12:33 AM
Tara doesn't need to die for Jax to stay. "I'm smarter than you and I know Jax better than you do. He's mine." Gemma does not like to be stepped on or to lose. I think Jax will hesitate at killing Cliff but Gemma will inject Cliff and conveniently leave the evidence in the room which she can tell Jax that she dropped it because someone walked in on her as she was doing it and couldn't recover it before it was found and she is really, really sorry (right,sarcasm here, it's Gemma, you know!). They will determine that one would need the special knowledge that only a doctor would know and it is traced back to Tara. This keeps Jax in Charming so he is near Tara through the legal proceedings. Sets the stage for more turmoil for Jax with his ex around and a set of new circumstances for child custody battle. Gemma remains the Queen Bee.
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November 30th, 2011 11:52 PM
I thought Romeo was a rat from the first episode where Jax and Opie are ambushed. He shows up, guns blazing, when they literally had only been being held for a very short time....at that point I said he's a rat...not saying he's a cop but he's a rat. I think that Potter is related to JT and Jax, and is out for Clay. I dont think we will have any idea though until next season, but we will see! I love how Tara's character has evolved and I think wont die...she will probably play an even bigger role in the series next season. I think Niners will be postponed until next season, Wendy too.
November 30th, 2011 10:54 PM
nice touch with sonny barger in this episode that was real.this is gonna be some last episode I can`t wait a whole week!
November 30th, 2011 6:58 PM
No way potter is John teller. JT wouldn't put a young member like juice in such danger. Plus they have a photo of JT at the clubhouse, juice would recognize him.
November 30th, 2011 5:35 PM
First off I loved Tara's tell me that you love me that she used to gauge how truthful she thought they were. As far as Romeo goes he did not make the call to Stockton himself and I cannot help but think that who we thought was the rat at the beginning of the Season was not and that Romeo got bad intel or else he gave Jax bad intel because he is dirty/not sure which yet.
Worried that Tara will get it either still through Clay's hit or the 9er's eye for an eye thing in retaliation. Gemma overplayed her hand and not sure why as she is usually smarter than that.....
I also read more into things than I should I think at times but cannot help myself as Sutter is good with those subliminal messages like the homeless lady who pops up from time to time
Finally who was Jax talking to(himself)when he walked away from Tig??? Also Sutter Tweeted last night that there would be no cliff hanger per se and I do not see this all tied up in a bow next week
Lastly best line of the night goes to
November 30th, 2011 4:34 PM
Romeo obviously lied to Jax...it's his way of making sure his deal with Samcro is secure. Unfortunately, despite what Jax says and hopes, he won't leave Samcro. I'm not sure exactly what will keep him there (Tara dying, the club falling apart with missing members and attacks from all sides), but he'll find a way to prolong his stay and somehow I don't see Tara staying with him (if she doesn't die).
November 30th, 2011 4:17 PM
Be nice to see more HAMC
November 30th, 2011 4:11 PM
Just have to add...... Otto met him but he can't see and Juice met him too but Juice is not the original 9. I do not think the new members knows what John Teller looks like and when Gemma was looking at the pictures, I swear that was Lincoln Potter.
November 30th, 2011 4:02 PM
Does anyone think Lincoln Potter is John Teller. Gemma was the only one to meet him outside the florist and " " Don't I know you or have we met before? I think John Teller faked his death, as we all know, no one gets out but by death. perfect plan on his part, if that is the case. now he is back to clean up the club and get Charming back to the way it was before they tried to kill him!!!!!
November 30th, 2011 3:29 PM
No no no no no sir, Tara does NOT have to die… they just made her 4 times more interesting between Wendy coming back, the fate of her hand being up in the air, her becoming essentially a younger Gemma, and she still has two sons to raise and her man to look after or else he will be overrun by the club’s messes.
Gemma had to become Gemma somewhere along the line folks she wasn’t always the Gemma we know and love.. hence Sutter bringing out that picture and reminding Gemma of a time before all this, and reminding us people aren't just born into Gemma's kind of mindset. Gemma’s event that made her cross over was JT cheating on her, and this is Tara’s event. Personally I am loving watching the descent of Tara… or some could argue, the ascent of Tara. I believe something happens where Tara realizes they can't leave, at least not right away... and that most likely will be Jax getting arrested at the meet next week.
November 30th, 2011 1:51 PM
songs in this episode To be:act1
Terrible Tommy by Ryan Horne
Starts after jax gets the letter, dies out for a bit, then picks up again in the end
Burn It Down by AWOLNATION
The scene where tigs is going rogue against the niners
Crimson and Clover by Tommy James & The Shondells
Tig waits in the car to approach Leroy
November 30th, 2011 1:33 PM
Wow!! This season is awesome! We knew or hoped that it would come down to Jax vs Clay and it finally has. Watching Tara manipulate and out play Gemma at her own game...amazing!! And to see Gemma sit there stunned was amazing. Not too upset that Opie wasn't in this part of the finale, he had to get the hell out of town so that the Niner attack story would seem credible. Really worried as to what is gonna happen to Bobby and Juice and the fallout of Otto ratting on the club. I got the same feeling as some of you - that Romeo is playing a game as well by lying to Jax.
I don't feel like Tara has to be killed off for Jax to stay, I think Jax is starting to realize a few important things:
that something is going on in terms of Otto and the possible ramifications that could come into play IF he did rat - the realization that Clay killed his old man/Piney/Donna and his attempt on Tara - the possibility of his mom knowing more than she let on about this whole thing - the leadership ability
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November 30th, 2011 12:15 PM
i really like Phil...he brings balance and sweet humor to the show. Unlike Rat, Phil pulled the trigger on himself without hesitation (even though he did throw up after). i am a fan of Phil.
i just don't see any way Jax stays in Charming unless his reason for leaving is dead. i just don't see any way around Tara being killed in the final episode.
About Romeo being an informant...a few episodes ago Romeo killed 3 or 4 Mexican guards playing cards in cold blood and in front of the Sons. Do informants or agents have that much leeway?
Jax saved Leroy's life, and it wasn't Jax who killed Leroy's girlfriend...there will be retaliation on the Sons but i don't think it will be on Tara.
There is no way Jax is going to kill Clay. Why, i think Jax feels more rage toward his Mother.
As for Gemma, i will give her credit for trying to salvage what she "worked 20 years for" BUT, using her own Son to murder for her? The better plan is if Jax makes Gemma have to live with Cla
November 30th, 2011 12:08 PM
Gemma took out some of the papers before she gave them to Jax and told him about Clay, and why did she put the picture of her and J.T. on the floor in the storage unit? She is hiding something, The imvolvement in J.T's death? And lets not forget that Tera has read (all) the papers so she knows about Gemmas imvolvement in Jax's dads death. Also the hit on Tera is still on remember, so does she get killed for Jax to stay in Charming and take the helm as president of S.O.A.cause you know he isn't going anywhere. Will Jax get back with Wendy after Tera's death now that she is straight again to keep his son? and the lawyers of of him.
November 30th, 2011 12:07 PM
My prediction, sad as it is: Tara has to die. If Tara is still alive, Jax and Tara leave town, and that doesn't leave the show as much to work with next season. If Tara's dead, Jax stays because he needs Gemma's help to raise the boys. Also, don't we have the cartel still after Tara? With Clay in the hospital, they're going to think they have to take care of Tara themselves. It also sets up some nice story lines re: custody of Abel for next season. My bet isn't the Niners killing Tara. It's the cartel.
November 30th, 2011 11:46 AM
I gotta say, the first 5 minutes almost lost me. I thought it was kind of a cop out - not only did Clay survive with 2 bullets in him, but as he's lying there he's masterminding yet another cover up about how he got shot. That's pretty much all that's happened this seasons - lies, cover-ups, back-stabbing...it just goes in circles.
But I was sucked back in by the end. Tara was awesome. I missed Opie too - way under-utilized.
November 30th, 2011 11:39 AM
i have no idea how Kurt will rap this up in one episode. cartel, potter, niners, juice, clay, wendy, tara and the irish. what a show. now hoping justified can keep up.
November 30th, 2011 11:31 AM
Great episode. I can't wait until next week. Tara outplaying (at least temporarily) Gemma was priceless. She certainly learned from the past, but Gemma is the Queen for a reason; I definitely wouldn't count her out. I don't think Romeo is a Fed, but he may be setting up SAMCRO to take the fall for him and the IRA. I can see him taking out the middle man (SAMCRO) and work directly with the IRA. I think he realizes that all the SAMCRO crap endangers his organization. I can't wait to see how it all turns out!
November 30th, 2011 10:22 AM
OK, people, we're now down to the wire. The acting last night was great for Jax, Gemma and Tara. Didn't expect Tara to go "Gemma" on Gemma. She turned the tables on her and the look on Gemma's face was priceless. Don't count 'mama' out yet- she's a better player at the game of deceit. At first, when Tara kept asking people "Do you love me?", I thought she was gonna commit suicide. Glad that didn't happen! Romeo is either a fed or a liar to get the guns from the Irish. And don't even get me started about DA Potter- creepy. I have a feeling he has a personal agenda against the Sons. Watch out for the Sheriff- he seems to have had enough from Potter. And may be the one to turn next. Can't wait till next week!
November 30th, 2011 9:26 AM
I don't think it's fair to see some of the character's questionable actions or hesitations as holes in the plot/story, simply because, yes, if you look at it from a "we are watching a show that writers sat and thought about for weeks/months - why would they let the character's do [whatever]". But, the truth of the matter is, they are suppose to be real people making on-spot decisions, and people will do things that don't make sense all the time. I think Sutter wants us to believe these are real people and their decisions and dialog weren't planned out. Just my thought - I don't agree or understand everything that everyone does on the show, but I don't agree or understand what people do in real life sometimes either.
November 30th, 2011 9:01 AM
Charlie "tell me,you love me"