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The only thing that bothers me about some speculation that Rumple's son is Henry's dad is the timeline. Rumple, was Rumple when he made the deal with Charming's mom about her two sons. So they were at minimum babies when he was turned. His son was 14. At least 20 years must've passed for the Charming brothers to grow up, so his son would have been mid 30's in fairy land. If we assume that all the events that led up to Regina implementing the curse happened rather quickly, then his son could still be in his mid 30's, but Emma was just born. Unless he was affected by the curse and then thrown into 'our world' so he doesn't age, perhaps he isn't Henry's dad after all. Some things to think about.
I don't think Regina needs magic to kill anyone, HOWEVER, I don't think that getting a gun and shooting someone in cold blood is her style either. Besides the fact that Storybrooke would be up in arms that someone was killed (interesting to see how state of Maine laws apply to this town, if they do at all), but there would be further reaching implications for Regina that she doesn't want. I think she just wants Storybrooke to be a small town that no one really knows about and continue to run it her way. If the State Police, or Governor got involved with that town, she'd have a lot of magic to weild, and then her cover would be blown. It's best to just sit quiet and handle things cloak and dagger like she's been doing.
some things to consider:
1. Regina hasn't killed Emma because she is Henry's mother and if she does then she knows Henry will know she did it just as he knew she killed Graham.
2. Her pride tells her that she can eventually get Emma to give up and leave.
3. She doesn't literally control everyone in Storybrooke she controls their environment and manipulates them personally. Perhaps she believes she is just smarter than everyone else and doesn't always need magic to be in control, otherwise she could have just stayed the Evil Queen of Fairyland. She obviously gets a kick out of being the only one who really knows what is happening. Or thinks she is. Surprise - the Evil Queen is a control freak.
4. She may be enjoying the tussle with Emma because let's face it being the Bitchy Mayor of Storybrooke must be a bit boring after a while compared to being the Evil Queen of Fairyland (but see point 3).
@LoveThisShow Exactly, right!?!
First of all, Regina has no idea Emma is Snow White's daughter. And second of all, Regina can definitely kill Emma in three easy steps:
(1) Purchase a gun
(2) Point it at Emma
Look at that. Pretty easy huh! All she needs is good aim! But not only that, she could poison her, send a hitman on her, or any other possible way someone can murder another.
You're being silly when you're saying she needs magic to kill someone.
She should just kill Emma and get it over with. All her problems would go away. If she had no qualms about killing Graham, she certainly wouldn't mind getting rid of her troublesome nemesis.
@eddi seriously that's what fairytales are for!
This show is great! I get my own Happily Ever After when I watch. Can't wait to see how many Emmy mom's they get this summer! Mr. Gold FOR SURE!
rumplestiltskin's son may have grown up already when the curse happen. idk, maybe new love interest for emma, that would be nice.
i dont think henry is rumplestiltskin child.
I am also looking forward to seeing what happened to Rumple's son and finding out why Emma was in jail having Henry. And why hasn't Henry asked who his father is yet? I would want to know. I'm sure that's something that has to be explored soon.
Time can't be completely stopped in Storybrooke, otherwise, Ashley (aka Cinderella) wouldn't have been able to get pregnant and HAVE her baby. She obviously got pregnant before Emma showed up. And I'm sure that Henry isn't the only kid that ages in that town. And just out of curiosity, is EVERYONE that lives in Storybrooke from Fairy Tale world, or have 'outsiders' moved in over the years and mingled with the fairytale people? The way the fairytale people PERCEIVE time might be different than how 'outsiders' do, hence that's why it seems they don't age. And hence why Emma showing up might be helping to lift that fog over their memories. That might be an interesting thing to explore.
Remember that Rumplestiltskin/Gold has this thing about kidnapping and procuring children for adoption so I am guessing his son disappears in a later episode and this explains his obsession with "finding" children. Perhaps he is searching for Bay even if he doesn't realize it. Or maybe he accidently killed him. Plenty to go on with there I think. The demise of Zoso suggests how Gold might eventually redeem himself later if he allows himself to be killed by the Queen who discovers his secret and does it to absorb his Dark Power but overdoses in the process...just saying.
And of course Snow and Charming can't get together for a long, long time...just hopefully not forever or how else will they live happily ever after?
I am a mythology lover of all my fav shows,and a big stickler about plot holes and such... but I think some of y'all are missing a major point here, they are UNDER a spell...logical thinking and reasoning have no place in Storybrook. So plot holes as much as they may irritate you, don't really matter here, because spells are not always based in reason... I don't see them as being too into time frames when they measure it by "as long as anyone can remember"... and just because we know of only one person dying, doesn't mean others haven't passed.Henry said that bad things happen to them if they leave the town, also when Emma came to town and the clock started back up, that had to have huge consequences on the spell...but I could be wrong..
@Alex Roggio - If you want logical & reasonable explanations, watch MYTHBUSTERS. It makes sense if you remember what happened in previous episodes. Use your brain instead of expecting the writers to remind you every episode. Regina can't kill Emma because Emma is outside of Regina's curse and influence (see Magic Hollow Tree). Henry is the same way because he is Emma's son and half human.
@cidalni - Emma owes Mr. Gold a favor because he let Ella/Cinderella keep her baby.
There was a criticism about the previous episode that nothing makes sense in OUAT, pointing out the Queen should be able to control everything and ride roughshod over everyone. (Yeah, like that would make an engaging story. Evil Queen wins. The End.)
First, this is a series about STORYBOOK CHARACTERS. Logic and reason need not apply. Second, Emma was protected by the Magical Hollow Tree and sent to live in the Real World. She's outside the EQ's influence and, obviously, ages just like humans. Third, as this episode proves, having power does not lead to happiness or love. The EQ thought her happy ending meant denying everyone else theirs. She thinks that my keeping everyone fractured and apart, she'll be happy. But, we see that she is never happy, satisfied, or feels loved.
To all those who are curious about why no one is noticing that Henry is the only one aging, I think that part of the curse is that no one notices things like that. It just kind of goes over their heads. Like the clock. No one thought it was odd that the clock never worked and that it just randomly started working again. Notice how things never change until Emma starts asking questions or does something about it. I think that's part of her being able to break the curse. She can help them see through it. Otherwise they're blind to what's really going on.
I do wish people would not look so deeply into the whys and wherefores of these wonderful stories, after all it is a fairytale, where anything is possible. I love the show, Robert Carlyle is amazing, even though he creeps me out at times. I too love Snow and Charming, but realise they cannot be in every storyline, as long as we continue to see them, I'm happy! Plus the wait is what makes you want more. Love Henry and Emma too, even Regina, as bad as she is, is an interesting character. Great show!
I think the reason Henry is aging and nobody else is, is because he's not a character from the book. Only the characters from the book are trapped.
I love this show i can't wait for sunday nights all the charactors are great
I Totally agree about Snow and Charming.
Seriously, sometimes I wonder if I just watch the show for them.
I'm not concerned about plot holes at this point, as I'm hoping they will be expalined in time. And none are glaring to the point that they in any way interfere with the enjoyment this show is giving me. Love all the characters/actors, but yeah, a soft mushy place in my heart for Snow and Charming. But Robert Carlyle is amazing, and Jennifer Morrison rocks it, so bravo. More please!
@lemonaki, I understand that, but my problem is that if Henry is aging and everyone else isn't, how hasn't anyone noticed? Haven't Henry's classmates noticed they're still in kindergarten while he's in 5th grade?
I'm trying to remember what the first favor Rumpel did. Wasn't there an early interaction where she owed him a favor or something that made your skin crawl?
@Chrys I also thought that he could be Henry's father but that would be to far fetched.
This was a good episode. Rumplestiltskin was great as always. I'm also curious as to what happened to his son. I agree that Snow and Charming needed more screen time. They are also my favorites.
On the down side I hate that now except for Henry nobody even begins to suspect the truth. Poor Graham he would have been a great ally for Henry and Emma.
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