Fringe Review: Is That You, Olivia? Comments (Page 2)
21 Comments
Roberto
February 11th, 2012 2:21 PM
1) I hope they are not making bringing back Olivia more complicated than necessary. Thanks to the return of Peter's influence for several months, Olivia and Walter are well on their way back to previous normality without jumping through a lot of Jones/Nina/Westfield/Device hoops. And why shouldn't they? It was being around him for 3 years that changed their lives. So, it's happening again. This Walter and Olivia were not so different from the ones we grew to know and love. Just minus Peter. Their relationship doesn't require Olivia's old memories at all. She's falling in love all over again. And in fact, she's better off without knowledge of the Fauxlivia affair.
Roberto
February 11th, 2012 2:20 PM
2)On my own, but I guess shared by many, I believe Peter IS home. There certainly is not an Olivia or Walter pining away for him somewhere. That all ended when he disappeared. This IS Peter's Walter and his Olivia. The creative team has a very natural, logical, simple, poignant way to resolve Peter going 'home' by only letting their characters be. Maybe they think they need more, but I disagree. Anything more complicated I feel will seem too contrived.
Roberto
February 11th, 2012 2:16 PM
I don't think they killed Mr. Two Face. As he was falling out the door, he blinked with all 4 eyes, I believe. Though it might have been more merciful if they had killed him. Apparently, his double was initially outside alt-Westfield, but unfortunately came back in time to tragically pair up.
olga
February 11th, 2012 11:35 AM
it did feel like a movie when they were trapped in that city.. awesome! I just wish it was 1,5 hour movie, not 45 mins..
When olivia kissed peter at the end, it seemed like she does it naturally, as if she was our olivia.. I just can't read her face when peter reacts to it.. was it like what? i just kissed you, what's wrong with that... or like maybe she forgets she kissed him or had no idea what just happened... it's just too soon to end!! i need today to be friday again.. lol
Anyway, I'm super happy we can get to this point.. it's been depressing and I needed to see olivia, peter and walter being happy and in a good mood..
Two thumbs up!
Dee
February 11th, 2012 9:34 AM
As great as last night's episode was, I keep getting the sinking feeling that Fringe is not long for this particular world because of the combination of being in the Friday Night Death Slot and the declining ratings. FOX knew exactly what they were doing when they moved the show to Fridays, Kevin Reilly wants to kill the show because of how expensive it is to make and because people aren't watching the show live, he's going to get his wish. So sad.
Dessy
February 11th, 2012 8:56 AM
That first scene
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:)
:)
What a fantastic episode. Best show ever!!
Review
February 11th, 2012 6:56 AM
Well I said so from the beginning, Olivia and Walter in amber were/are supposed to be lesser versions of the old versions, and thanks to Peter they will be better versions.
Problem is, that you would expect Peter to at least show something that looks like longing, missing, pain whatever for his real Olivia and Walter, nothing at all.
Why Nina wants Olivia to remember blue? I hope not like the bit in 3.12, that Peter has to choose again between his Olivia's, this time two blonde versions.Olivia back to Peters girl. like from 3.10 onwards? Yuk.
So Olivia is forever the victim, abused, drugged, is she human? If not, I am very upset.Most beautiful character, only pity about not getting a written backstory.
Anna Torv now playing two Olivia's similar but not the same in merge and seperate, truly truly awesome.
Uncle Jackass Rank: Regular Character
February 11th, 2012 1:28 AM
Was it just me but did this episode remind me of a better than average Sci-fiction movie instead of a Fringe episode? There were some explanations in this episode which as nice.
kay
February 10th, 2012 11:04 PM
YES! i don't care whether peter needs to get home, or if olivia and walter's memories need to be recovered. Just that something is happenign positively makes me happy. Because seriously, watching this alternate world was starting to really depress me. Now all I want is Fauxlivia to remember so he can be with lincoln from the other side. Coz Frank was the most boring character ever.
Yvetta
February 10th, 2012 10:47 PM
I think there was no more Westfield because the two universes annihilated each other. Which may be what Jones wants, in his twisted villainous way.
I actually think your dropped theory is correct -- Nina (with spurring from David Robert Jones) is using drugs to force Olivia into remembering the primary-Olivia's memories. Nina and DRJ may not know what those memories are, but for some reason they need her to remember and care about the primary universe/timeline -- perhaps to use her to restore it (via the machine?!). Just a theory, but it seems plausible by what we've seen so far.
Walter: It's a beautiful name. Astrid: What is? Walter: Astrid.
February 11th, 2012 2:21 PM
1) I hope they are not making bringing back Olivia more complicated than necessary. Thanks to the return of Peter's influence for several months, Olivia and Walter are well on their way back to previous normality without jumping through a lot of Jones/Nina/Westfield/Device hoops. And why shouldn't they? It was being around him for 3 years that changed their lives. So, it's happening again. This Walter and Olivia were not so different from the ones we grew to know and love. Just minus Peter. Their relationship doesn't require Olivia's old memories at all. She's falling in love all over again. And in fact, she's better off without knowledge of the Fauxlivia affair.
February 11th, 2012 2:20 PM
2)On my own, but I guess shared by many, I believe Peter IS home. There certainly is not an Olivia or Walter pining away for him somewhere. That all ended when he disappeared. This IS Peter's Walter and his Olivia. The creative team has a very natural, logical, simple, poignant way to resolve Peter going 'home' by only letting their characters be. Maybe they think they need more, but I disagree. Anything more complicated I feel will seem too contrived.
February 11th, 2012 2:16 PM
I don't think they killed Mr. Two Face. As he was falling out the door, he blinked with all 4 eyes, I believe. Though it might have been more merciful if they had killed him. Apparently, his double was initially outside alt-Westfield, but unfortunately came back in time to tragically pair up.
February 11th, 2012 11:35 AM
it did feel like a movie when they were trapped in that city.. awesome! I just wish it was 1,5 hour movie, not 45 mins..
When olivia kissed peter at the end, it seemed like she does it naturally, as if she was our olivia.. I just can't read her face when peter reacts to it.. was it like what? i just kissed you, what's wrong with that... or like maybe she forgets she kissed him or had no idea what just happened... it's just too soon to end!! i need today to be friday again.. lol
Anyway, I'm super happy we can get to this point.. it's been depressing and I needed to see olivia, peter and walter being happy and in a good mood..
Two thumbs up!
February 11th, 2012 9:34 AM
As great as last night's episode was, I keep getting the sinking feeling that Fringe is not long for this particular world because of the combination of being in the Friday Night Death Slot and the declining ratings. FOX knew exactly what they were doing when they moved the show to Fridays, Kevin Reilly wants to kill the show because of how expensive it is to make and because people aren't watching the show live, he's going to get his wish. So sad.
February 11th, 2012 8:56 AM
That first scene
:)
:)
:)
What a fantastic episode. Best show ever!!
February 11th, 2012 6:56 AM
Well I said so from the beginning, Olivia and Walter in amber were/are supposed to be lesser versions of the old versions, and thanks to Peter they will be better versions.
Problem is, that you would expect Peter to at least show something that looks like longing, missing, pain whatever for his real Olivia and Walter, nothing at all.
Why Nina wants Olivia to remember blue? I hope not like the bit in 3.12, that Peter has to choose again between his Olivia's, this time two blonde versions.Olivia back to Peters girl. like from 3.10 onwards? Yuk.
So Olivia is forever the victim, abused, drugged, is she human? If not, I am very upset.Most beautiful character, only pity about not getting a written backstory.
Anna Torv now playing two Olivia's similar but not the same in merge and seperate, truly truly awesome.
Rank: Regular Character
February 11th, 2012 1:28 AM
Was it just me but did this episode remind me of a better than average Sci-fiction movie instead of a Fringe episode? There were some explanations in this episode which as nice.
February 10th, 2012 11:04 PM
YES! i don't care whether peter needs to get home, or if olivia and walter's memories need to be recovered. Just that something is happenign positively makes me happy. Because seriously, watching this alternate world was starting to really depress me. Now all I want is Fauxlivia to remember so he can be with lincoln from the other side. Coz Frank was the most boring character ever.
February 10th, 2012 10:47 PM
I think there was no more Westfield because the two universes annihilated each other. Which may be what Jones wants, in his twisted villainous way.
Rank: Extra
February 10th, 2012 10:20 PM
I actually think your dropped theory is correct -- Nina (with spurring from David Robert Jones) is using drugs to force Olivia into remembering the primary-Olivia's memories. Nina and DRJ may not know what those memories are, but for some reason they need her to remember and care about the primary universe/timeline -- perhaps to use her to restore it (via the machine?!). Just a theory, but it seems plausible by what we've seen so far.