Fringe Review: What Is May Never Be Comments (Page 3)
55 Comments
kay
April 21st, 2012 8:15 AM
I'm really confused whether this IS the future, or a possible future, or what. Are they now staying in this timeline? WHAT IS HAPPENING? and @egnirf what the hell are you talking about? Why would Anna Torv feel betrayed about anything? Is there an assumption I'm missing that we'll stay in this future for the rest of the season? Coz from the promo it doesn't look like. Why on earth are you so upset?
heinz
April 21st, 2012 8:14 AM
I don't know why everyone's going crazy and thinking that olivia's being replaced! I've just watched the promo for next week's episode and everything looks like its gone back to normal in the present day, looking for Jones again. But I don't understand why this episode just ended with Peter and Henrietta. I thought the next episode might be a continuation of them trying to get rid of the observers. But amazing episode overall!!
Anna
April 21st, 2012 7:53 AM
@ Malternate
The man and the woman that the guy in the beginning described were both younger, Astrid and Peter. Bell was on the other side of the amber, hence he didn't see him when he must have rushed in to get Walter without being caught!
Anna
April 21st, 2012 7:52 AM
I just assumed Bell had for some reason shot Olivia, why else would Etta have that bullet around her neck?
David
April 21st, 2012 3:56 AM
And you wonder why the show is on the verge of being cancelled?
Great example>> This completely POS episode!
Shit Faced And Stinky
April 21st, 2012 2:22 AM
What the god-damn fuck is Va-jay-jay Abrams thinking?!
Wendella
April 21st, 2012 2:09 AM
Did anyone else catch that Walters attitude changed dramatically when his old brain tissue was put back in??? I mean it was taken out because he didn't like who he was becoming and now to put it back in he really did seem more like Walternit from the other universe.
SeptemBer
April 21st, 2012 1:58 AM
Etta and Simon were really great. Prefer this show in 2036 with Natives vs The Observers. Fringe fun .. Simon says," this would've been a great arc to watch."
Malternate
April 21st, 2012 1:37 AM
@Carissa: "The reason I find it so difficult to discuss is I don't know what we were watching."
Strongly agree. But even without context, it gives us some idea of why Peter and Olivia's child might be so important. (On the other hand, although it's clear why "original" Olivia needed to be the mom, it's less clear why Peter needed to be the dad.)
Malternate
April 21st, 2012 1:32 AM
If Walter was stuck in amber with a man and a woman, and if the woman was Astrid and the man was Bell ... where did Peter come from? Did I miss something?
Did you notice that Walter not only became smarter and less funny when he received his old brain tissue, he also became a jerk? Walternate, in a word.
@Carissa: "In 2609 the Observers poisoned the planet and went back in time to claim it as there own. But how did they get to that state of decay in 2609 in the first place?"
The trashing of the planet doesn't really need explanation, does it? Humans don't need even need another 600 years ... 60 should be plenty. The real question is whether the Observers are the future iteration of humanity or if they are interlopers from elsewhere. The other real question is why they didn't jump back to Terra Nova. Probably too few haberdashers.
fortyseven Rank: Regular Character
April 21st, 2012 1:31 AM
I agree with the review. I thought Etta was Peter and Olivia's immediately LOL. I knew she was when it was revealed that she was unreadable to Observers. Haig was great. I could see Peter and Olivia in her character. It was great but without context it suffered. Watching Noble switch from even wackier Walter to Walternate-like was amazing. Disconcerting to have yet another timeline (I'm assuming). Cool to see the NYC skyline with the Freedom Tower. The best part is that this wasn't a one-off.
Egnirf
April 21st, 2012 1:19 AM
Saddest thing of all is, that Jeff Pinkner forced Anna Torv to play the Olivia Dunham closed off from episode 2, imagine if she would have been allowed to play PilotOlivia or Fauxlivia, she would have been the popular one from the start.
So basically in this episode they gave Etta what they should have given Olivia, but Anna is stucj with helmethead, FBI suit being nothing without peter Olivia.
And Anna Torv must feel horrible betrayed, and had to shoot 3 more episodes knowing that she could have had another Olivia, but was not allowed, and then she ends Fringe with never having had a chance to do something with Olivias backstory.
And what Pinkner has done to Anna Torv, totally disgusting.
He should have done that to Noble or Jackson, not to someone who has had the most terrible writing , Olivia Dunham (and Fauxlivia) is this great character thanks to Anna Torvs brilliance.
Egnirf
April 21st, 2012 1:09 AM
The last scene should at least have been Olivia and Etta, not Peter.
$.17, 18. 19 had Jackson working on a film, he still gets the scenes, Anna Torv has been working her butt off and she gets this horrible treatment.
3 episodes left, still no backstory on Olivia Dunham, from 4.15 it was supposed to be Olivias coming of age, Abrams, and Jackson, Really?? Where?? When? The one where she gave up her being?
I think the entire idea of replacing Anna Torv with just another Australian actress is the most disgusting and insulting think you can do to a great female lead Emmy worthy actress like Anna Torv.
They would not dare doing that to Noble or Jackson, they would be all over the place complaining, but Anna has to except every horrible treatment by Pinkner.
So season 5 will be Walter and Peter and Etta , Olivia and Anna Torv gone,Josh Jackson is overjoyed, he has a problem with female costars who are brilliant.
Doug
April 21st, 2012 12:43 AM
With the awesome world introduced in this episode, I just hope we get to see more of it in some way. C'mon Fringe writers, find a way to get Henrietta back in time to join the fringe team! Wierd but cool, right?
Arbo
April 21st, 2012 12:25 AM
Days of Future Past - loved everything about this episode. The actress who played Etta was amazing.
Kyle
April 20th, 2012 11:32 PM
ek present time, the next the new plot (the altiverse) of the futiverse. They are definitely going to have to elaborate on Olivia and Bell. Also, if I'm not mistaken, Walter had his brain temporarily restored previously by Jones (which leads me to think that Jones' plot is not just an arc but a large chunk of the entire plot) and he had those pieces removed on purpose. We may find out just what that purpose was, but if my theory of the combined universes is correct then I think we may see some of Walternate in Walter.
Sorry for the rants, I'm just brainstorming :)
Kwire23
April 20th, 2012 11:31 PM
09-21-12!!! Is it the best Easter egg ever or am I looking too deep. That can't be a coincidence! Anyone else???
Kyle
April 20th, 2012 11:31 PM
Hey nice review.
I also thought long and hard about this episode and referring to the previous episode, we are not sure what did happen with David Robert Jones. What we did know was that he was not captured per se, but stifled. He was also experimenting with frequencies and what seemed to be some kind of quantum entanglement. If Jones succeeded in his 'project,' maybe his project was to merge the universes together; he combined them. That would explain the coffee and just the general 'altiverse' feel to this episode. The fringe homebase had the altiverse look, and so did Broyles' office, but we know the alternate Broyles is in jail. Maybe Jones is stopped by one of the universes attempting to contact or get the help of the Observers and that is what sparked this future. The people being killed from their homes might have been dormant shape shifters. It is clear though that this was an absolutely great episode and I enjoyed it as well. Im hoping they go the same style as before: one we
Kwire23
April 20th, 2012 11:28 PM
Renewed for another season!?!?!? 09-21-12!!! That was the code that Nina gave them to get into massive dynamic. It just so happens that September 21, 2012 is a Friday. The premiere date for the new season?!?!
Neb8fan
April 20th, 2012 11:19 PM
So I know hoping for a full fifth season is crazy but has official word come down that this is the last season? Your comment made it sound like something had been announced. As much as I loved this episode I hope if this is the last season we have plenty of time to wrap up the story the way it deserves.
Walter: It's a beautiful name. Astrid: What is? Walter: Astrid.
April 21st, 2012 8:15 AM
I'm really confused whether this IS the future, or a possible future, or what. Are they now staying in this timeline? WHAT IS HAPPENING? and @egnirf what the hell are you talking about? Why would Anna Torv feel betrayed about anything? Is there an assumption I'm missing that we'll stay in this future for the rest of the season? Coz from the promo it doesn't look like. Why on earth are you so upset?
April 21st, 2012 8:14 AM
I don't know why everyone's going crazy and thinking that olivia's being replaced! I've just watched the promo for next week's episode and everything looks like its gone back to normal in the present day, looking for Jones again. But I don't understand why this episode just ended with Peter and Henrietta. I thought the next episode might be a continuation of them trying to get rid of the observers. But amazing episode overall!!
April 21st, 2012 7:53 AM
@ Malternate
The man and the woman that the guy in the beginning described were both younger, Astrid and Peter. Bell was on the other side of the amber, hence he didn't see him when he must have rushed in to get Walter without being caught!
April 21st, 2012 7:52 AM
I just assumed Bell had for some reason shot Olivia, why else would Etta have that bullet around her neck?
April 21st, 2012 3:56 AM
And you wonder why the show is on the verge of being cancelled?
Great example>> This completely POS episode!
April 21st, 2012 2:22 AM
What the god-damn fuck is Va-jay-jay Abrams thinking?!
April 21st, 2012 2:09 AM
Did anyone else catch that Walters attitude changed dramatically when his old brain tissue was put back in??? I mean it was taken out because he didn't like who he was becoming and now to put it back in he really did seem more like Walternit from the other universe.
April 21st, 2012 1:58 AM
Etta and Simon were really great. Prefer this show in 2036 with Natives vs The Observers. Fringe fun .. Simon says," this would've been a great arc to watch."
April 21st, 2012 1:37 AM
@Carissa: "The reason I find it so difficult to discuss is I don't know what we were watching."
Strongly agree. But even without context, it gives us some idea of why Peter and Olivia's child might be so important. (On the other hand, although it's clear why "original" Olivia needed to be the mom, it's less clear why Peter needed to be the dad.)
April 21st, 2012 1:32 AM
If Walter was stuck in amber with a man and a woman, and if the woman was Astrid and the man was Bell ... where did Peter come from? Did I miss something?
Did you notice that Walter not only became smarter and less funny when he received his old brain tissue, he also became a jerk? Walternate, in a word.
@Carissa: "In 2609 the Observers poisoned the planet and went back in time to claim it as there own. But how did they get to that state of decay in 2609 in the first place?"
The trashing of the planet doesn't really need explanation, does it? Humans don't need even need another 600 years ... 60 should be plenty. The real question is whether the Observers are the future iteration of humanity or if they are interlopers from elsewhere. The other real question is why they didn't jump back to Terra Nova. Probably too few haberdashers.
Rank: Regular Character
April 21st, 2012 1:31 AM
I agree with the review. I thought Etta was Peter and Olivia's immediately LOL. I knew she was when it was revealed that she was unreadable to Observers. Haig was great. I could see Peter and Olivia in her character. It was great but without context it suffered. Watching Noble switch from even wackier Walter to Walternate-like was amazing. Disconcerting to have yet another timeline (I'm assuming). Cool to see the NYC skyline with the Freedom Tower. The best part is that this wasn't a one-off.
April 21st, 2012 1:19 AM
Saddest thing of all is, that Jeff Pinkner forced Anna Torv to play the Olivia Dunham closed off from episode 2, imagine if she would have been allowed to play PilotOlivia or Fauxlivia, she would have been the popular one from the start.
So basically in this episode they gave Etta what they should have given Olivia, but Anna is stucj with helmethead, FBI suit being nothing without peter Olivia.
And Anna Torv must feel horrible betrayed, and had to shoot 3 more episodes knowing that she could have had another Olivia, but was not allowed, and then she ends Fringe with never having had a chance to do something with Olivias backstory.
And what Pinkner has done to Anna Torv, totally disgusting.
He should have done that to Noble or Jackson, not to someone who has had the most terrible writing , Olivia Dunham (and Fauxlivia) is this great character thanks to Anna Torvs brilliance.
April 21st, 2012 1:09 AM
The last scene should at least have been Olivia and Etta, not Peter.
$.17, 18. 19 had Jackson working on a film, he still gets the scenes, Anna Torv has been working her butt off and she gets this horrible treatment.
3 episodes left, still no backstory on Olivia Dunham, from 4.15 it was supposed to be Olivias coming of age, Abrams, and Jackson, Really?? Where?? When? The one where she gave up her being?
I think the entire idea of replacing Anna Torv with just another Australian actress is the most disgusting and insulting think you can do to a great female lead Emmy worthy actress like Anna Torv.
They would not dare doing that to Noble or Jackson, they would be all over the place complaining, but Anna has to except every horrible treatment by Pinkner.
So season 5 will be Walter and Peter and Etta , Olivia and Anna Torv gone,Josh Jackson is overjoyed, he has a problem with female costars who are brilliant.
April 21st, 2012 12:43 AM
With the awesome world introduced in this episode, I just hope we get to see more of it in some way. C'mon Fringe writers, find a way to get Henrietta back in time to join the fringe team! Wierd but cool, right?
April 21st, 2012 12:25 AM
Days of Future Past - loved everything about this episode. The actress who played Etta was amazing.
April 20th, 2012 11:32 PM
ek present time, the next the new plot (the altiverse) of the futiverse. They are definitely going to have to elaborate on Olivia and Bell. Also, if I'm not mistaken, Walter had his brain temporarily restored previously by Jones (which leads me to think that Jones' plot is not just an arc but a large chunk of the entire plot) and he had those pieces removed on purpose. We may find out just what that purpose was, but if my theory of the combined universes is correct then I think we may see some of Walternate in Walter.
Sorry for the rants, I'm just brainstorming :)
April 20th, 2012 11:31 PM
09-21-12!!! Is it the best Easter egg ever or am I looking too deep. That can't be a coincidence! Anyone else???
April 20th, 2012 11:31 PM
Hey nice review.
I also thought long and hard about this episode and referring to the previous episode, we are not sure what did happen with David Robert Jones. What we did know was that he was not captured per se, but stifled. He was also experimenting with frequencies and what seemed to be some kind of quantum entanglement. If Jones succeeded in his 'project,' maybe his project was to merge the universes together; he combined them. That would explain the coffee and just the general 'altiverse' feel to this episode. The fringe homebase had the altiverse look, and so did Broyles' office, but we know the alternate Broyles is in jail. Maybe Jones is stopped by one of the universes attempting to contact or get the help of the Observers and that is what sparked this future. The people being killed from their homes might have been dormant shape shifters. It is clear though that this was an absolutely great episode and I enjoyed it as well. Im hoping they go the same style as before: one we
April 20th, 2012 11:28 PM
Renewed for another season!?!?!? 09-21-12!!! That was the code that Nina gave them to get into massive dynamic. It just so happens that September 21, 2012 is a Friday. The premiere date for the new season?!?!
April 20th, 2012 11:19 PM
So I know hoping for a full fifth season is crazy but has official word come down that this is the last season? Your comment made it sound like something had been announced. As much as I loved this episode I hope if this is the last season we have plenty of time to wrap up the story the way it deserves.